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ItsNotABlazer · 07-19-2003, 10:02 PM

I never really looked after I did my drop via Bell Tech flip kit on my 75 Jimmy. Well in the matter of trying to improve my ride some I was going to remove the bump stops. Come to find out the bump stops are completely compressed at this time so I do not believe it would be in my best interest to remove them until I do a c notch. I have seen others post about having some space left after they did their flip and I was wondering if my truck being equipped with heavy duty suspension might have something to do with this? Also would anyone know what is involved in heavy duty suspensions. In other words is it strictly the leaf springs in rear and coils up front that are different or are there more differences involved?

Brad

**lolife99** · 07-19-2003, 10:17 PM

I had an '82 2wd Blazer that had a flip kit on it. The back sat extremely close to the frame. Closer than on a pickup. I ended up using a lowered leaf spring, and a 2 inch drop shackle, and put the rearend back under the leaf springs. A friend of mine put a c-notch on his Blazer which worked out fine with his flip kit,... but it sat really low in the back. More like a 7 or 8 inch drop, than a 6inch. He also had to notch a frame crossmember for drive shaft clearence. (Especially with a truck load of people, the drive shaft would rub.) Hope this helps.

ItsNotABlazer · 07-19-2003, 10:26 PM

I did not measure mine before and after but if I was guessing I would say the flip dropped mine about 7+ inches. The front is supposed to be 4" (3" spindles, 1" springs) but it was more like 6" or so I guess. I was also contemplating going back with new leafs and shackle kit but I do not know if it would give me the drop I would like.

Brad

ocbaud · 07-19-2003, 10:53 PM

my bump stops were compressed after i lowered the truck. i took them off and now i have about 4" of room left

BaggedC10 · 07-20-2003, 01:36 AM

Did you remove the factory bumpstop bracket and rubber stop?

ocbaud · 07-20-2003, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BaggedC10
Did you remove the factory bumpstop bracket and rubber stop?

yes

TIMSPEED · 07-20-2003, 11:14 PM

I'm with Eric on this. With my DJM Flip Kit, I also removed the factory bumpstop bracket/bumpstop, and I have about 4" of space between the axle and frame (bed unloaded).

ItsNotABlazer · 07-21-2003, 10:17 AM

Maybe the extra springs act as lowering blocks? How many springs you guys have? I have 5 in mine at this time. I realize the Jimmy would be a little heavier in the back because of the top. Looks like I will be c-notching or raising it back up some soon

Brad

TIMSPEED · 07-21-2003, 01:15 PM

I have 4 springs IIRC.

bagged78 · 07-22-2003, 08:25 PM

If you are looking for a quick fix, Take the bump stops, and brackets out, then but some air shocks for a 82 toyota p/u( they are shorter than stock chevy) than just put some air in and go.. The shocks should only cost about 35.00 or so.. Just a thought, because you know you'll be pissed when you raise it up after seeing it that low!!!

ItsNotABlazer · 07-23-2003, 12:49 AM

Well I have the airlift brand helper bags on it right now and they won't raise it high enough to get off the bumpstops. I definitely would not like it to sit any higher than what it is now.........if anything lower but I know that will be out of the question without cutting up my floor and installing a extreme c notch. I may do this in the future but at this time I would not like to do any cutting of my rear floor pan.

Brad

bagged78 · 07-23-2003, 07:30 PM

You must have the old sleeve bags!!
If you get any lift at all from those , it should be ok to take the bracket out...
If you do a bolt in c-notch, and still have a full leaf pack you don't have to cut the floor at all, the only time you would need to cut the floor is if you are planning on haveing the axle rest bottom in the notch, other than that you should be fine...
The kits out their a pretty easy to install, and would give you what you are looking for..
Most bolt in notches are big enuff to go really low, even with bags, the only time you would need any bigger notch is to lay out fully with bigger tires or wheels...My 78 has a 3" and aired out was low enuff for most...

bagged78 · 07-23-2003, 07:37 PM

The rockers are about 2.5-3" off the ground, and thats with a 235/75/15 that's 28"tall, about 2inches taller than a 295/35/20 just to give you an idea..

bagged78 · 07-23-2003, 07:38 PM

sorry that's the wrong pic...

07-19-2003, 10:02 PM	#1
ItsNotABlazer The full convertible guy Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Paris Texas Posts: 728	Flip kit and bump stop is completely compressed I never really looked after I did my drop via Bell Tech flip kit on my 75 Jimmy. Well in the matter of trying to improve my ride some I was going to remove the bump stops. Come to find out the bump stops are completely compressed at this time so I do not believe it would be in my best interest to remove them until I do a c notch. I have seen others post about having some space left after they did their flip and I was wondering if my truck being equipped with heavy duty suspension might have something to do with this? Also would anyone know what is involved in heavy duty suspensions. In other words is it strictly the leaf springs in rear and coils up front that are different or are there more differences involved? Brad __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Vaquero (Lime Green) 2000 BMW 740iL 1995 Chevy ECSB riding on air 1975 GMC Jimmy 2WD lowered 4/6 1972 Chevy Trazer soon to be roadster 1965 Mustang 289/3 speed (friends dad bought it new) 1964 Chevy C10 (dad bought it new)

07-19-2003, 10:26 PM	#3
ItsNotABlazer The full convertible guy Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Paris Texas Posts: 728	I did not measure mine before and after but if I was guessing I would say the flip dropped mine about 7+ inches. The front is supposed to be 4" (3" spindles, 1" springs) but it was more like 6" or so I guess. I was also contemplating going back with new leafs and shackle kit but I do not know if it would give me the drop I would like. Brad __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Vaquero (Lime Green) 2000 BMW 740iL 1995 Chevy ECSB riding on air 1975 GMC Jimmy 2WD lowered 4/6 1972 Chevy Trazer soon to be roadster 1965 Mustang 289/3 speed (friends dad bought it new) 1964 Chevy C10 (dad bought it new)

07-20-2003, 01:36 AM	#5
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	Did you remove the factory bumpstop bracket and rubber stop? __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold

07-20-2003, 11:14 PM	#7
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	I'm with Eric on this. With my DJM Flip Kit, I also removed the factory bumpstop bracket/bumpstop, and I have about 4" of space between the axle and frame (bed unloaded). __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

07-21-2003, 10:17 AM	#8
ItsNotABlazer The full convertible guy Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Paris Texas Posts: 728	Maybe the extra springs act as lowering blocks? How many springs you guys have? I have 5 in mine at this time. I realize the Jimmy would be a little heavier in the back because of the top. Looks like I will be c-notching or raising it back up some soon Brad __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Vaquero (Lime Green) 2000 BMW 740iL 1995 Chevy ECSB riding on air 1975 GMC Jimmy 2WD lowered 4/6 1972 Chevy Trazer soon to be roadster 1965 Mustang 289/3 speed (friends dad bought it new) 1964 Chevy C10 (dad bought it new)

07-19-2003, 10:17 PM	#2
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,702	I had an '82 2wd Blazer that had a flip kit on it. The back sat extremely close to the frame. Closer than on a pickup. I ended up using a lowered leaf spring, and a 2 inch drop shackle, and put the rearend back under the leaf springs. A friend of mine put a c-notch on his Blazer which worked out fine with his flip kit,... but it sat really low in the back. More like a 7 or 8 inch drop, than a 6inch. He also had to notch a frame crossmember for drive shaft clearence. (Especially with a truck load of people, the drive shaft would rub.) Hope this helps.

07-19-2003, 10:53 PM	#4
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	my bump stops were compressed after i lowered the truck. i took them off and now i have about 4" of room left

07-21-2003, 01:15 PM	#9
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	I have 4 springs IIRC. __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

07-22-2003, 08:25 PM	#10
bagged78 world class smart ass! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clinton Utah Posts: 335	If you are looking for a quick fix, Take the bump stops, and brackets out, then but some air shocks for a 82 toyota p/u( they are shorter than stock chevy) than just put some air in and go.. The shocks should only cost about 35.00 or so.. Just a thought, because you know you'll be pissed when you raise it up after seeing it that low!!! __________________ Aric 75 2WD BLAZER (never ending project) -some day maybe- 02 2500HD CREW CAB 4X (daily drive) -8" lift 37s and 22s- ____ ____________________________

07-23-2003, 12:49 AM	#11
ItsNotABlazer The full convertible guy Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Paris Texas Posts: 728	Well I have the airlift brand helper bags on it right now and they won't raise it high enough to get off the bumpstops. I definitely would not like it to sit any higher than what it is now.........if anything lower but I know that will be out of the question without cutting up my floor and installing a extreme c notch. I may do this in the future but at this time I would not like to do any cutting of my rear floor pan. Brad __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Vaquero (Lime Green) 2000 BMW 740iL 1995 Chevy ECSB riding on air 1975 GMC Jimmy 2WD lowered 4/6 1972 Chevy Trazer soon to be roadster 1965 Mustang 289/3 speed (friends dad bought it new) 1964 Chevy C10 (dad bought it new)

07-23-2003, 07:30 PM	#12
bagged78 world class smart ass! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clinton Utah Posts: 335	You must have the old sleeve bags!! If you get any lift at all from those , it should be ok to take the bracket out... If you do a bolt in c-notch, and still have a full leaf pack you don't have to cut the floor at all, the only time you would need to cut the floor is if you are planning on haveing the axle rest bottom in the notch, other than that you should be fine... The kits out their a pretty easy to install, and would give you what you are looking for.. Most bolt in notches are big enuff to go really low, even with bags, the only time you would need any bigger notch is to lay out fully with bigger tires or wheels...My 78 has a 3" and aired out was low enuff for most... __________________ Aric 75 2WD BLAZER (never ending project) -some day maybe- 02 2500HD CREW CAB 4X (daily drive) -8" lift 37s and 22s- ____ ____________________________

07-23-2003, 07:37 PM	#13
bagged78 world class smart ass! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clinton Utah Posts: 335	The rockers are about 2.5-3" off the ground, and thats with a 235/75/15 that's 28"tall, about 2inches taller than a 295/35/20 just to give you an idea.. Attached Images __________________ Aric 75 2WD BLAZER (never ending project) -some day maybe- 02 2500HD CREW CAB 4X (daily drive) -8" lift 37s and 22s- ____ ____________________________

07-23-2003, 07:38 PM	#14
bagged78 world class smart ass! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clinton Utah Posts: 335	sorry that's the wrong pic... Attached Images __________________ Aric 75 2WD BLAZER (never ending project) -some day maybe- 02 2500HD CREW CAB 4X (daily drive) -8" lift 37s and 22s- ____ ____________________________



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