The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-16-2014, 07:08 PM   #1
greystoke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Buckeye, Arizona
Posts: 694
How to pull a straight six?

Hey guys, I have this 59 GMC, I'm planning on selling the drive train but have never yanked a straight 6 before, it appears to have a 4 speed manual transmission although I'm not real familiar with this vintage of truck. Can the motor and transmission all come out together? How do you connect to the motor to yank it safely. I've done V8's before but this is unchartered territory and I want the opinions of you great folks on this forum.
__________________
"Fear makes the wolf look bigger"

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=305629
greystoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2014, 07:36 PM   #2
OrrieG
Registered User
 
OrrieG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Idaho
Posts: 8,800
Re: How to pull a straight six?

since you have all the engine stuff disconnected it is only 8 more bolts and a couple of electrical vonnectors to pill the front clip. then its a piece iof cake keep the pivot point in the chain about 3/4 towards the back of the engine to allow for the trans weight.
__________________
1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread
1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver)
Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project
OrrieG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2014, 07:48 PM   #3
greystoke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Buckeye, Arizona
Posts: 694
Re: How to pull a straight six?

where would you recommend hooking up the chain to. I have the clip off. The truck resides in gravel/dirt so I'm using an overhead 1ton hoist.
__________________
"Fear makes the wolf look bigger"

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=305629
greystoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2014, 09:45 PM   #4
gale
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 310
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Quote:
Originally Posted by greystoke View Post
where would you recommend hooking up the chain to. I have the clip off. The truck resides in gravel/dirt so I'm using an overhead 1ton hoist.
I pulled the 292 with the 4 speed from my '67 C20 and I ran a chain around the intake or exhaust manifold about 8 or 10 inches from the back of the engine. I just looked for a clear hole the chain would go through. The other end of the chain picked up a bolt hole on the bell housing on the opposite side of the motor.

If you have removed the floor shift lever it should come straight out. The U-joint probably has a 4 bolt yoke so that has to come apart too.
__________________
Gale Gorman
'54 3100
'67 C20 stepside
gale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 12:18 AM   #5
roger55
Registered User
 
roger55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: San Angelo, Tx
Posts: 1,068
Re: How to pull a straight six?

roger55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 01:01 AM   #6
mechanixman
Registered User
 
mechanixman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Mt. Prospect, ILL
Posts: 820
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Kinda like that.
When I pulled mine, I just kept to the same rules, ried to make sure the bolts are on opposite sides, and be careful when lifting. There is a WHOLE lot more weight on your hoist than a V8.
Attached Images
  
__________________
-Nick

Projects:
1952 Chevy 1 ton = The Build page
mechanixman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 04:40 AM   #7
tinyjaime
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Henderson Nevada
Posts: 76
Re: How to pull a straight six?

When I pulled my 235 with the 4spd, I had the front clip off but I had trouble removing it with the 4 spd. Yes the stick shift was removed. I was about an inch from clearing so I decided to drop the transmission and it came out easy. Yes there is a lot of weight because the motor is so long so be careful. Maybe you will have better luck than me as I remember correctly where the stick shift fit into the transmission that was where it was hanging up even with the hump cover removed. I would next time same some advergation and remove the tranny first, then remove the motor.
tinyjaime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 08:49 AM   #8
greystoke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Buckeye, Arizona
Posts: 694
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Great feedback guys, looking at the transmission I think it would be very difficult to pull all together. I think I will pull the cab first then the engine/tranny.
__________________
"Fear makes the wolf look bigger"

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=305629
greystoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 08:55 AM   #9
Russell Ashley
Registered User
 
Russell Ashley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
Posts: 2,641
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Quote:
Originally Posted by roger55 View Post
Roger, I like your workspace.
Russell Ashley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 12:21 PM   #10
mr48chev
Registered User
 
mr48chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toppenish, WA
Posts: 15,411
Re: How to pull a straight six?

That setup looks a lot safer than connecting to a couple of smaller bolts in shear.
I've seen the results of a couple of engines that dropped after a bolt broke because it was stressed beyond it's capabilities when the engine was being lifted. Both were sixes too.

I'd be a bit cautious with the hookup that low though as the center of gravity is going to be higher than where the chains are connected and if they are too close to straight across from each other the engine may want to tilt to one end or the other on it's own.
__________________
Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club.

My ongoing truck projects:
48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six.
71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant.
77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.
mr48chev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 04:28 PM   #11
OrrieG
Registered User
 
OrrieG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Idaho
Posts: 8,800
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Or you can use one of these to keep it level...
Attached Images
 
__________________
1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread
1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver)
Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project
OrrieG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 07:47 PM   #12
gale
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 310
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrrieG View Post
Or you can use one of these to keep it level...
But the inline 6 presents a different problem because all the good picking points are on one side. I think that was the reason for the original question.
__________________
Gale Gorman
'54 3100
'67 C20 stepside
gale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 09:03 PM   #13
BurgerMan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Posts: 49
Re: How to pull a straight six?

I had the cab off already. Few t8 bolts to be safe in bell housing with chain. Used 2 heavy duty tow straps to help level it on transmission side. 2 bolts on tranny, 2 on the engine mounts and up and out it went
__________________
1977 Chevy K20
1959 Chevy Apache 3200
BurgerMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2014, 04:30 PM   #14
NEWFISHER
Registered User
 
NEWFISHER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,303
Re: How to pull a straight six?

I pulled mine exactly like Rogger55 shows. I removed the plugs and dizzy on the rt side and the manifolds on the left so as not to scratch or break them.
__________________
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
NEWFISHER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2014, 07:31 PM   #15
whitedog76
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 1,450
Re: How to pull a straight six?

The factory way was to take 2 head bolts out and thread in 2 eye bolts.

I would leave the bellhousing on, but pull the trans off. You have to take the flywheel off to get the 235 bellhousing off anyhow.

They show it here, figure 28

http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/1...e%20Manual.htm
whitedog76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2014, 08:22 PM   #16
70gmcjimmy
GMCDAC
 
70gmcjimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 837
Re: How to pull a straight six?

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrrieG View Post
Or you can use one of these to keep it level...
Quote:
Originally Posted by gale View Post
But the inline 6 presents a different problem because all the good picking points are on one side. I think that was the reason for the original question.
I was able to use a leveler pulling this 250 out of a '64 Chevy. It did help since I didn't want to take off the front clip. It didn't look like at the angle I needed that the tranny would clear the bellhousing crossmember so 4 tranny bolts, the driveshaft and linkage to drop the tranny was easier than taking out the crossmember. The seat and tranny hump had to come out anyway so dropping the tranny was easy. Used an exhaust-intake bolt hole to put a lifting iron on the drivers side rear and the battery ground on the pass side front.

DAC
Attached Images
     
__________________
1970 GMC K5 Jimmy Custom 4X4 Mom's driver from 1971 to 2001!! Under rebuild!
1972 GMC C2500 Pickup owned since 1979 Needs a rest and refurbish!
1955 GMC 100 2nd design driven almost daily!

Rest In Peace Mom. "Dolly" 7/15/23 - 5/18/09
GMC driver for 30 years!

70gmcjimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com