fender emblem mounting

[mike in mo]

what do you call the things that go in the hole on the fender that hold the emblems in place and where do you get them? dont see them in lmc or classic parts and the guy at the parts store tryed to sell me a tube of glue.

[Katrina/10]

The emblems just have speed nuts on the back.

[mike in mo]

yea if you take the fender off to put the emblem on. i want the things you push in the hole then push the emblem into.

[SkinnyG]

Barrel Nuts.

I'm curious how easy they are to get the emblems off afterward.

Also, some concerns that the barrel nuts will chip the paint and start rusting.

My emblems were held on with a tube of adhesive.

[ray_mcavoy]

Originally Posted by SkinnyG

Barrel Nuts.

Yes ... barrel nuts. Some places call them barrel clips.

Originally Posted by SkinnyG

I'm curious how easy they are to get the emblems off afterward.

It depends on the condition of the emblem studs. If the studs are relatively smooth (never had a speed nut threaded onto them) then the emblem can often be carefully pried back off by working each end out a little at a time. The barrel nuts usually stay in the holes. But if the studs have threads cut into them, the barrel nuts tend to grip tighter and aren't as easy to remove.

Originally Posted by SkinnyG

Also, some concerns that the barrel nuts will chip the paint and start rusting.

Yes, that can be a concern. There were some applications (like the trunk lid emblem on my Nova for example) where barrel nuts were used from the factory since there are no access holes for nuts on the inside. When I re-installed that emblem after having the car painted, I used a little bit of 3M strip caulk to keep water from getting in around the emblem holes and causing rust. Seems to have worked ... that was nearly 20 years ago and there are no signs of rust.

[mike in mo]

thanks guys

[RandyP]

It actually depends on the year as to how the fender emblem is held on. Some years used barrel nuts pushed in to the holes that retained the emblem studs. Some years used speed nuts on the back of the emblems on the studs on the back side of the fender.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by RandyP

It actually depends on the year as to how the fender emblem is held on. Some years used barrel nuts pushed in to the holes that retained the emblem studs. Some years used speed nuts on the back of the emblems on the studs on the back side of the fender.

I think they were always specified with a threaded fastener.

If you saw some vehicles with barrel clips on them you were probably seeing a vehicle that had been repaired in the assembly plant. Normally this would be because a wrong emblem had been installed (ie, Custom Deluxe emblem on a Scottsdale, Chevy emblem on a GMC, or whatever).

By the way, the technique we used for removing them was to break them off. A small piece of wood placed on the emblem and a sharp whack with a hammer pops the studs off (or breaks the emblem in half). Insert a barrel clip, pop a new emblem on and ship it, all in 45 seconds or less.

Originally Posted by SkinnyG

My emblems were held on with a tube of adhesive.

That would not be a factory installation.

K

[SkinnyG]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

That would not be a factory installation.

No, no. All the chrome was removed, the two-tone was single-toned, and it was painted with something that readily dissolves with lacquer thinner.

Heck, a lot of things have changed in ~me~ since 1977 (grin).