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Jerrod · 04-16-2014, 08:07 PM

I recently had first crack at a 220k 2001 corvette ls1still in the car, running and everything; electronics, all of the accessories, computers and such. I passed on it a 2 grand. The catch was I had to pull the motor. I thought 2k was fair if it was already pulled but being as though it wasn't I offered 1500. I didn't have the money at that moment but could have easily got it by the weekend after it was posted. Did I screw up? I probably would have had it torn down and rebuilt with that kind of mileage, so I couldn't just through it in my suburban.
What is a reasonable price for a high mile 5.7? How about low mile? I'm really new to the ls scene but I am pretty sure that is the way I am gonna go. Any and all feedback is welcome.

My son wanted me to put the banana in. Cheers.

**truckdude239** · 04-16-2014, 09:02 PM

220k miles for 2 grand and u had to pull it your self forget that! Figure 2k to rebuild it your at 4k

Root2812 · 04-16-2014, 09:29 PM

Yeah you did good to pass. I see LS1's around here for about $2500 with less than half that many miles and not needing a rebuild.

Jerrod · 04-16-2014, 10:31 PM

Alrite, ill keep look looking.

mattcrp1 · 04-16-2014, 10:54 PM

You did good by passing. Keep looking on CL. There are plenty of deals out there for less money and pulled.

Custom 68 · 04-17-2014, 09:05 AM

don't forget about the 5.3 motors they are cheap and everywhere. I think that is the majority of what is ran around here. They are considered a gen 3 like the ls1 so they are very similar. You may be aware of that and want the ls1 but thought I would throw my 2 cents in.
Or you could go with the 6.0 truck motor.
lots of options.

wgeyer88 · 04-17-2014, 09:38 AM

Check ebay too, they pop up there all the time.

Also if you're a member on ls1tech.com, there's almost always a few on there.

BR3W CITY · 04-17-2014, 01:11 PM

car-part.com find truck/van motors all day long.

Skip looking specifically for an LS1, most of the time you'll overpay for a beat-to-death motor that only makes 15hp more than the trucks, and has a host of other early-model issues like piston slap and oil usage.

Wasted Income · 04-17-2014, 01:37 PM

I can't believe how some people get wrapped up in the "ZOMGCORVETTEPARTS!!!!!11" thing.

Good work on passing. LS1 is old news. Even corvette guys are putting iron truck motors in their rigs when they wanna go really fast with boost

Jerrod · 04-17-2014, 03:36 PM

The friend I have doing the body work when I have money has a seized up4.8/5.3 he said I could have for 200 bucks. Is that a good deal? I think I want to go bigger than a 5.3 though. I will do some towing, lots of deer hunting in it. I was hoping to get around 15mpg when all is said and done. That's why I was thinking corvette, if I could get 350 horse with 15 mpg I would be tickled pink. I have been thinking going with the 6.0 backed up by a NV4500, or get a gear splitter on the 4 speed. Is 15mpg out question with a 6.0. I don't need anything radical either, relatively stock is just fine.
My wife and I are going to refinance our house to do our kitchen and maybe a bathroom, so I told her I was going to take out some more to put into the suburban, it is only going to appreciate right. The crazy part was she said okay so I have to get it done before she changes her mind, haha.
Thanks for all the responses, everyone has been great. Cheers

BR3W CITY · 04-17-2014, 03:48 PM

If its actually seized, I'd pass or offer him $100 as a builder-block. There are soooo many of these around that there isnt' a reason to really "Settle". That being said, a cammed 5.3 will have no problem putting out 350hp and getting over 15mpg freeway.

I have a big cammed 6.0 with about the heaviest 2wd drivetrain possible, and I still can touch 18-19 freeway if I'm careful.

crazy longhorn · 04-17-2014, 04:42 PM

You can bore a 4.8 or 5.3 block 3mm over, & make that 5.7? IMHO, stick with the truck blocks...."Poke" a 6 liter block .030, & you have 370 cubes & set up right, knockin on the 500 hp door! No need to spend big money, on the aluminum blocks for the outlay

Longhorn

Jerrod · 04-17-2014, 10:19 PM

Thanks for the input. All really good ideas. 18 mpg in a 6.0?; That sounds *****in

71chevystep4x4 · 04-18-2014, 12:05 AM

I'm curious about that gear splitter your talking about with your 4 speed? I was thinking of putting a NV4500 behind my 5.3, but just don't want to change everything around that I just finished to accommodate the engine, plus those trannys aren't cheap.

71chevystep4x4 · 04-18-2014, 12:13 AM

Nevermind, just looked into them, and surely don't want to move my tranny and T-case back 7.5 inches since I already moved them forward 2.

Jerrod · 04-18-2014, 04:25 PM

What would a fair price for a 6.0 be? It looks like they are referred to as LQ4 or LQ9, is that correct? I don't know nothing bout nothing when it comes to these new motors so I am learning as I go. Cheers

**First c10** · 04-18-2014, 04:54 PM

Jerrod try this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine

Jerrod · 04-18-2014, 07:02 PM

Thanks C-10. Tons of info on there. LQ9 looks like the engine I need. Little bit o aftermarket stuff and it seems like I could be ticklin 400hp and mid to high teens gas mileage. Now I need to find a wrecked Cadillac. Cheers.

**Clyde65** · 04-18-2014, 10:08 PM

Get you a 5.3 with a cam, tune and headers and you will have 400hp, a 6.0(lq4) with same your near 450. Lq9 with same and your near 475.

**First c10** · 04-18-2014, 11:28 PM

Jerrod that is why I went with a 5.3. It's a lc9 all aluminum block, stock at 320 hp. So if you take all the smog crap off and add cold air intake and headers and/or free flowing exhaust. You have to be at 350-360. With nothing but a stock motor oh and the 2011 lc9 had a 6l80 trans so stock 308 gears work fine. Like having 373 with a 4l80.
If you put a cam watch out!!!

Lq9'ed 80 Sierra · 04-19-2014, 04:49 PM

Hey bud. I bought a lq9 from a Caddy ESV, cost me 1900 bucks with 133k. I don't care what anybody tells you, don't buy anything unless you can SEE IT and HEAR IT run first ! Good Luck.

Jerrod · 04-19-2014, 09:57 PM

thanks 80 sierra. sorta what I was thinking but it is kinda tough to find one in the car that runs. most of the wrecks I have seen on the 'puter are destroyed in the front. It looks like an ordeal just to get em out. I was hoping to have it done by deer season/October but I am not in a real rush, so I can wait for a decent deal. This thread has been great. I think I would probably lean towards the 6.0.

Lq9'ed 80 Sierra · 04-19-2014, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerrod

thanks 80 sierra. sorta what I was thinking but it is kinda tough to find one in the car that runs. most of the wrecks I have seen on the 'puter are destroyed in the front. It looks like an ordeal just to get em out. I was hoping to have it done by deer season/October but I am not in a real rush, so I can wait for a decent deal. This thread has been great. I think I would probably lean towards the 6.0.

If you are not in a rush I recommend this route:

This is a great article enjoy

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/how...ree-1131506504

Jerrod · 04-19-2014, 11:17 PM

That's a pretty cool article. Beyond my skill level, and my wifes patience level. I have a 95 z71 that I have get rid of and thought about parting out but I haven't done it. I would sell the whole truck for a grand but I cant even sell it for that. That would be some of my swap money.

04-16-2014, 08:07 PM	#1
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Did I mess up? I recently had first crack at a 220k 2001 corvette ls1still in the car, running and everything; electronics, all of the accessories, computers and such. I passed on it a 2 grand. The catch was I had to pull the motor. I thought 2k was fair if it was already pulled but being as though it wasn't I offered 1500. I didn't have the money at that moment but could have easily got it by the weekend after it was posted. Did I screw up? I probably would have had it torn down and rebuilt with that kind of mileage, so I couldn't just through it in my suburban. What is a reasonable price for a high mile 5.7? How about low mile? I'm really new to the ls scene but I am pretty sure that is the way I am gonna go. Any and all feedback is welcome. My son wanted me to put the banana in. Cheers.

04-16-2014, 09:02 PM	#2
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,238	Re: Did I mess up? 220k miles for 2 grand and u had to pull it your self forget that! Figure 2k to rebuild it your at 4k __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

04-16-2014, 09:29 PM	#3
Root2812 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Barnum, Mn Posts: 795	Re: Did I mess up? Yeah you did good to pass. I see LS1's around here for about $2500 with less than half that many miles and not needing a rebuild. __________________ My 1950 Chevy build

04-16-2014, 10:31 PM	#4
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? Alrite, ill keep look looking.

04-16-2014, 10:54 PM	#5
mattcrp1 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 555	Re: Did I mess up? You did good by passing. Keep looking on CL. There are plenty of deals out there for less money and pulled. __________________ My Chevy habit is paid for by Ford diesels... Here is my SLOW LS install: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...55#post6456355 Caliper Rebuild: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=613748 Upper Control Arm Bushings: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=616974 IG mattcrp1

04-17-2014, 09:05 AM	#6
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,939	Re: Did I mess up? don't forget about the 5.3 motors they are cheap and everywhere. I think that is the majority of what is ran around here. They are considered a gen 3 like the ls1 so they are very similar. You may be aware of that and want the ls1 but thought I would throw my 2 cents in. Or you could go with the 6.0 truck motor. lots of options. __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

04-17-2014, 09:38 AM	#7
wgeyer88 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 245	Re: Did I mess up? Check ebay too, they pop up there all the time. Also if you're a member on ls1tech.com, there's almost always a few on there. __________________ Will 1970 CST10 SWB LQ4/4L80E 2004 Silverado (sold) 2007.5 Dodge Ram 2500

04-17-2014, 01:11 PM	#8
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: Did I mess up? car-part.com find truck/van motors all day long. Skip looking specifically for an LS1, most of the time you'll overpay for a beat-to-death motor that only makes 15hp more than the trucks, and has a host of other early-model issues like piston slap and oil usage. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

04-17-2014, 01:37 PM	#9
Wasted Income Boosted Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mackinaw, IL Posts: 2,200	Re: Did I mess up? I can't believe how some people get wrapped up in the "ZOMGCORVETTEPARTS!!!!!11" thing. Good work on passing. LS1 is old news. Even corvette guys are putting iron truck motors in their rigs when they wanna go really fast with boost __________________ 1972 2wd K/5 Blazer Turbocharged 370 LSx - 941 rwhp / 1093 rwtq 1969 Chevy K-10 L33 5.3 / 4L80E / NP241 / 4" lift 1964 Buick Skylark Twin TURBO 383 LS pro-touring project 2014 VW Passat TDI - Daily Driver Turbo diesel 2015 Sierra Denali HD Duramax Turbo diesel 2023 Ford Explorer ST - Twin Turbskis 2023 Ford F150 RCSB - Whipple Supercharged 2017 Polaris RZR Turbo 2014 Nor-Tech Center Console - Twin Supercharged Outboards *TURBO ALL THE THINGS!!*

04-17-2014, 03:36 PM	#10
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? The friend I have doing the body work when I have money has a seized up4.8/5.3 he said I could have for 200 bucks. Is that a good deal? I think I want to go bigger than a 5.3 though. I will do some towing, lots of deer hunting in it. I was hoping to get around 15mpg when all is said and done. That's why I was thinking corvette, if I could get 350 horse with 15 mpg I would be tickled pink. I have been thinking going with the 6.0 backed up by a NV4500, or get a gear splitter on the 4 speed. Is 15mpg out question with a 6.0. I don't need anything radical either, relatively stock is just fine. My wife and I are going to refinance our house to do our kitchen and maybe a bathroom, so I told her I was going to take out some more to put into the suburban, it is only going to appreciate right. The crazy part was she said okay so I have to get it done before she changes her mind, haha. Thanks for all the responses, everyone has been great. Cheers

04-17-2014, 03:48 PM	#11
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: Did I mess up? If its actually seized, I'd pass or offer him $100 as a builder-block. There are soooo many of these around that there isnt' a reason to really "Settle". That being said, a cammed 5.3 will have no problem putting out 350hp and getting over 15mpg freeway. I have a big cammed 6.0 with about the heaviest 2wd drivetrain possible, and I still can touch 18-19 freeway if I'm careful. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

04-17-2014, 04:42 PM	#12
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	Re: Did I mess up? You can bore a 4.8 or 5.3 block 3mm over, & make that 5.7? IMHO, stick with the truck blocks...."Poke" a 6 liter block .030, & you have 370 cubes & set up right, knockin on the 500 hp door! No need to spend big money, on the aluminum blocks for the outlay Longhorn __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

04-17-2014, 10:19 PM	#13
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? Thanks for the input. All really good ideas. 18 mpg in a 6.0?; That sounds *****in

04-18-2014, 12:05 AM	#14
71chevystep4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Milwaukie OR Posts: 135	Re: Did I mess up? I'm curious about that gear splitter your talking about with your 4 speed? I was thinking of putting a NV4500 behind my 5.3, but just don't want to change everything around that I just finished to accommodate the engine, plus those trannys aren't cheap.

04-18-2014, 12:13 AM	#15
71chevystep4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Milwaukie OR Posts: 135	Re: Did I mess up? Nevermind, just looked into them, and surely don't want to move my tranny and T-case back 7.5 inches since I already moved them forward 2.



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04-18-2014, 04:25 PM	#16
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? What would a fair price for a 6.0 be? It looks like they are referred to as LQ4 or LQ9, is that correct? I don't know nothing bout nothing when it comes to these new motors so I am learning as I go. Cheers

04-18-2014, 04:54 PM	#17
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Did I mess up? Jerrod try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

04-18-2014, 07:02 PM	#18
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? Thanks C-10. Tons of info on there. LQ9 looks like the engine I need. Little bit o aftermarket stuff and it seems like I could be ticklin 400hp and mid to high teens gas mileage. Now I need to find a wrecked Cadillac. Cheers.

04-18-2014, 10:08 PM	#19
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,546	Re: Did I mess up? Get you a 5.3 with a cam, tune and headers and you will have 400hp, a 6.0(lq4) with same your near 450. Lq9 with same and your near 475. __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

04-18-2014, 11:28 PM	#20
First c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Banos CA Posts: 2,705	Re: Did I mess up? Jerrod that is why I went with a 5.3. It's a lc9 all aluminum block, stock at 320 hp. So if you take all the smog crap off and add cold air intake and headers and/or free flowing exhaust. You have to be at 350-360. With nothing but a stock motor oh and the 2011 lc9 had a 6l80 trans so stock 308 gears work fine. Like having 373 with a 4l80. If you put a cam watch out!!! __________________ 1956 Chevy Bel Air 2 door 1956 Chevy 210 4 Door 1970 K20 LWB project the Hulk build w/Supercharged 4.8L-ly2/4L60E HULK BUILD 1970 C10 Yellow/White Deluxe LWB w/ 5.3L-LC9/6L80E 1968 K10 LWB Dark green my son calls it "THE HULK Jr"HULK JR SOLD GO GO!!!

04-19-2014, 04:49 PM	#21
Lq9'ed 80 Sierra Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 33	Re: Did I mess up? Hey bud. I bought a lq9 from a Caddy ESV, cost me 1900 bucks with 133k. I don't care what anybody tells you, don't buy anything unless you can SEE IT and HEAR IT run first ! Good Luck.

04-19-2014, 09:57 PM	#22
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? thanks 80 sierra. sorta what I was thinking but it is kinda tough to find one in the car that runs. most of the wrecks I have seen on the 'puter are destroyed in the front. It looks like an ordeal just to get em out. I was hoping to have it done by deer season/October but I am not in a real rush, so I can wait for a decent deal. This thread has been great. I think I would probably lean towards the 6.0.

04-19-2014, 11:17 PM	#24
Jerrod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 20	Re: Did I mess up? That's a pretty cool article. Beyond my skill level, and my wifes patience level. I have a 95 z71 that I have get rid of and thought about parting out but I haven't done it. I would sell the whole truck for a grand but I cant even sell it for that. That would be some of my swap money.

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