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Old 05-07-2014, 05:29 PM   #1
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Hello i have a 1972 chevy SWB, over the sumer im building the frame and i have a M20 i want to use. I plan on having the 350 small block in the 4X4 or I6 engine position. i already dont like how far back the shifter would fit with the M20 shifter location so i was thinking about making brackets to move it forward and modify the rods. but i found this T&F shifter that seems to put the shifter in the loaction of a top loader which would be perfect. anyone know anything about these or have any experiences with it or know anyone with one?
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:35 PM   #2
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Re: Muncie T&F shifter any experiences with it??

Or does anyone have any other suggestions? thanks
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:45 PM   #3
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Re: Muncie T&F shifter any experiences with it??

A $450 shifter would have me rethinking the plan.
Why do you want to move the engine back to the rear holes isn't your 307 in the front holes?
I'd strongly suggest just putting the engine in the stock location and digging up an O/D trans for your truck.
What are your plans for the floor? Not too sure how well that "device" would fit under a "high hump" removable cover.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:18 PM   #4
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A $450 shifter would have me rethinking the plan.
Why do you want to move the engine back to the rear holes isn't your 307 in the front holes?
I'd strongly suggest just putting the engine in the stock location and digging up an O/D trans for your truck.
What are your plans for the floor? Not too sure how well that "device" would fit under a "high hump" removable cover.
i would like to move the engine back for alittle better weight distribution. i was planning on a high hump and then a large shifter boot if i went with this shifter. i also am going to contact them to get some dimensions on the product to know for sure. i know $450 is steep but i need to get a shifter for my trans anyway which could run me around $250. id much rather make the trans i have work then buy another. and i guess your right "device" is alot more accurate description then shifter
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:47 PM   #5
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Re: Muncie T&F shifter any experiences with it??

I think you were on the right track when you spoke of moving the shifter forward, and making new rods. This is a picture of my saginaw. The shifter is far enough forward for a bench seat.
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Re: Muncie T&F shifter any experiences with it??

That's a very interesting shifter! Never seen or heard of one of those before, I could have used one in my 55 when I put an M20 with a Hurst shifter in. The stick came up really close to the seat, and I had to bend it a lot to make it work. In your case, moving your engine forward 2 inches would not affect weight distribution enough to notice, but still may not give you enough shifter clearance.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:32 PM   #7
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That's a very interesting shifter! Never seen or heard of one of those before, I could have used one in my 55 when I put an M20 with a Hurst shifter in. The stick came up really close to the seat, and I had to bend it a lot to make it work. In your case, moving your engine forward 2 inches would not affect weight distribution enough to notice, but still may not give you enough shifter clearance.
i would acually be moving the engine about 3ins back(from the v8 to I6 position) so that is why i think this shifter, or one like it would almost be necessary becuase that would cuase the shifter to be under or almost under the seat.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:16 PM   #8
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Re: Muncie T&F shifter any experiences with it??

My $0.02-------the photo in the first post will require significant alteration of the trans hump to fit.

I have my engine in the L-6 position and I was running a Saginaw 4-speed before putting in the TKO. I have the bench seat. I bought a hurst shifter for bench seat tri-5 Chevy's because I had read it would work. WRONG. Had to modify the lever a lot, it had to come up about 4 " and forward 4" to clear the seat all the way back. It worked, but it was tight and the seat couldn't move forward at all.

I don't know the standard shifter location on the Muncie vs. the Saginaw, but either one is going to be tight to fit. The shifter shown in the first post would help, but then you have to deal with the floor.

You probably just have to decide which pain in the ass you want to deal with....
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