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kris's66lwb · 05-07-2014, 07:28 PM

Yes I did search this but only found conversions. But I'm looking at getting back into the chevy game with a 90 suburban 3/4 ton 4 speed 4x4. How many 4 speed burbs were made? I have never seen one

68Timber · 05-08-2014, 07:55 AM

I've only seen a couple and they were online. It might be easier to find a clean 3/4 ton w/auto and swap the manual in. There's also a thread here where member DirtyLarry swapped a NV4500 in place of his SM465 you could reference to swap a late model 5-speed in.

K5owner · 05-08-2014, 10:51 AM

Not many and have only ever seen one in person. It just wasn't a valued option then.

83GMCK2500 · 05-08-2014, 03:10 PM

This occurs to me as an ideal question for Mr. Keith Seymore...I PMed him this thread.

kris's66lwb · 05-08-2014, 04:51 PM

I looked at one ex forestry truck. Body was alright not major rusty but dented up on the barn doors. And the engine was smoking pretty bad. I Dont Know if it would be a top end or bottom end rebuild but I Dont Know if I want to get into that. I put it in 4 low and low on the trans and man 3500rpm truck barely moved. I'm imagining the rear gears would be 410s which would make it like something 72.3:1 final drive in low low. It looked like a 10 bolt front axle. Idont really know about chevy front axles. I know the Dana's and the 14 rear. It was a 14 but a non float axle. He was asking 1600.

83GMCK2500 · 05-08-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kris's66lwb

I looked at one ex forestry truck. Body was alright not major rusty but dented up on the barn doors. And the engine was smoking pretty bad. I Dont Know if it would be a top end or bottom end rebuild but I Dont Know if I want to get into that. I put it in 4 low and low on the trans and man 3500rpm truck barely moved. I'm imagining the rear gears would be 410s which would make it like something 72.3:1 final drive in low low. It looked like a 10 bolt front axle. Idont really know about chevy front axles. I know the Dana's and the 14 rear. It was a 14 but a non float axle. He was asking 1600.

Yeah, I have the same 70+:1 crawl ratio in my '83, it's nice. If it was new enough to have the 9.5" 14 bolt (the semi floater) then it had a GM 10 bolt front axle, it succeeded the Dana 44, the two have several interchangeable parts.

**special-K** · 05-11-2014, 10:59 AM

I've never seen a later Suburban 4spd in person. I did have a '90 Blazer w/4spd and that was a rare thing,too. I ordered my '92 K3500 with a 5spd and have had more people comment that they didn't realize manual transmissions were still offered. It's about to that point now. I believe the Dodges are the only ones available w/manual trans now. Probably if they ever come up with a good automatic Dodge will drop those,too. I remember when a real truck wouldn't consider it a truck if it had an automatic. Times sure have changed.

Irish1941 · 05-12-2014, 01:59 PM

I've seen a few over the yrs. and only one was a Silverado. Rest were all base model trucks.
Front diff should be a 10 bolt. Exact same as 1/2 axle. Just 8 lug hubs on it.
14 SF 9.5 sounds right. The 14 FF was 2wd only in 3/4 ton with 454.
Could have 3.73, 4.10 or 4.56 but 4.56 are rare!
Interesting thing:
For '89-'91 V-Blazers, you could only get a 350/700R4 in California.
No 350/4 spd manual and no diesel at all was offered in here.
And in Suburbans only 3/4t 2wd or 4wd got diesels for CA.
And only 1/2t 4wd was offered 4 spd manual while 3/4t 2wd & 4wd could have be had with 4 spd manual and then only with small block.
Pretty sure it was GVW vs EPA for California.

D1rkski · 05-12-2014, 09:25 PM

I have a CA original 88 3/4 ton 4x4 Silverado with the factory SM465

68Timber · 05-13-2014, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by D1rkski

I have a CA original 88 3/4 ton 4x4 Silverado with the factory SM465

Yours is one of the two I mentioned I've seen, the other is DirtyLarry's.

**special-K** · 05-13-2014, 07:52 AM

That is one sweet post-87 Suburban!

D1rkski · 05-13-2014, 01:23 PM

Thanks!

Jsfucttruck · 05-13-2014, 07:33 PM

My landlord has a 89 with a 465/208. They are hard to find.

05-07-2014, 07:28 PM	#1
kris's66lwb resident wrencher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ramona california Posts: 720	How many were made ? Yes I did search this but only found conversions. But I'm looking at getting back into the chevy game with a 90 suburban 3/4 ton 4 speed 4x4. How many 4 speed burbs were made? I have never seen one

05-08-2014, 07:55 AM	#2
68Timber I know the pieces fit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MONTGOMERY, AL Posts: 5,523	Re: How many were made ? I've only seen a couple and they were online. It might be easier to find a clean 3/4 ton w/auto and swap the manual in. There's also a thread here where member DirtyLarry swapped a NV4500 in place of his SM465 you could reference to swap a late model 5-speed in. __________________ John 79 2wd Blazer (Bruiser) 85 M1009 Blazer (Sarge) build 74 Honda Z50 build

05-08-2014, 10:51 AM	#3
K5owner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: CA Posts: 168	Re: How many were made ? Not many and have only ever seen one in person. It just wasn't a valued option then.

05-08-2014, 03:10 PM	#4
83GMCK2500 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaverton, OR from WA State Posts: 1,515	Re: How many were made ? This occurs to me as an ideal question for Mr. Keith Seymore...I PMed him this thread. __________________ Devin 1983 GMC High Sierra 2500, 4x4, RC/LB, 400 S.B., SM-465, NP-208, Corporate 10 bolt & 9.5" 14 bolt 1996 GMC Sierra SLE 3500 DRW, 4x4, EC/LB, Vortec 454, NV-4500, BW-4401, AAM 925 & AAM 1050 1997 GMC Sierra SLT 1500 4x4, Z71/F44, EC/SB, Vortec 350 My Introduction with my '83s History New Daily, the '96

05-08-2014, 04:51 PM	#5
kris's66lwb resident wrencher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ramona california Posts: 720	Re: How many were made ? I looked at one ex forestry truck. Body was alright not major rusty but dented up on the barn doors. And the engine was smoking pretty bad. I Dont Know if it would be a top end or bottom end rebuild but I Dont Know if I want to get into that. I put it in 4 low and low on the trans and man 3500rpm truck barely moved. I'm imagining the rear gears would be 410s which would make it like something 72.3:1 final drive in low low. It looked like a 10 bolt front axle. Idont really know about chevy front axles. I know the Dana's and the 14 rear. It was a 14 but a non float axle. He was asking 1600.

05-11-2014, 10:59 AM	#7
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: How many were made ? I've never seen a later Suburban 4spd in person. I did have a '90 Blazer w/4spd and that was a rare thing,too. I ordered my '92 K3500 with a 5spd and have had more people comment that they didn't realize manual transmissions were still offered. It's about to that point now. I believe the Dodges are the only ones available w/manual trans now. Probably if they ever come up with a good automatic Dodge will drop those,too. I remember when a real truck wouldn't consider it a truck if it had an automatic. Times sure have changed. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-12-2014, 01:59 PM	#8
Irish1941 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 450	Re: How many were made ? I've seen a few over the yrs. and only one was a Silverado. Rest were all base model trucks. Front diff should be a 10 bolt. Exact same as 1/2 axle. Just 8 lug hubs on it. 14 SF 9.5 sounds right. The 14 FF was 2wd only in 3/4 ton with 454. Could have 3.73, 4.10 or 4.56 but 4.56 are rare! Interesting thing: For '89-'91 V-Blazers, you could only get a 350/700R4 in California. No 350/4 spd manual and no diesel at all was offered in here. And in Suburbans only 3/4t 2wd or 4wd got diesels for CA. And only 1/2t 4wd was offered 4 spd manual while 3/4t 2wd & 4wd could have be had with 4 spd manual and then only with small block. Pretty sure it was GVW vs EPA for California.

05-12-2014, 09:25 PM	#9
D1rkski Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 7	Re: How many were made ? I have a CA original 88 3/4 ton 4x4 Silverado with the factory SM465

05-13-2014, 07:52 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: How many were made ? That is one sweet post-87 Suburban! __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-13-2014, 01:23 PM	#12
D1rkski Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 7	Re: How many were made ? Thanks! Last edited by 68Timber; 05-14-2014 at 03:42 PM. Reason: WTS removed

05-13-2014, 07:33 PM	#13
Jsfucttruck Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Aptos Posts: 366	Re: How many were made ? My landlord has a 89 with a 465/208. They are hard to find. Last edited by 68Timber; 05-14-2014 at 03:42 PM. Reason: WTB removed



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