Drum Brake Help Needed!!! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

ablack · 08-02-2003, 11:46 PM

Alright...... I've been working on my rear drums half the day and I'm ready to throw them through the window. I took them apart last week to rebuild them, thought I was being all clever by taking pictures, but obviously not enough, because I spend my day surrounded by the Haynes manual, printed pictures and a pile of parts and made no progress. Does anyone have a good source of a diagram of the rear brake drums that show how the things go together? Just when I thought I was making progress, I came across the "Shoe Guide" according to the Haynes, and I have no idea where to put it. I'm almost frustrated enough to just order the disk conversion kit and lose the drums!

Anyone got any ideas???

Alan
'72 C-1500 Fleetside
Elk Grove, CA

Brad · 08-03-2003, 03:23 AM

Step back, take a deep breath, drink a beer and you can approach it again in the morning. This came up a couple of weeks ago and somebody had posted a pic and diagram of how it all goes back together. I can tell you that the shorter shoe goes on the front. I'd do it for you, but that's a little difficult over the internet. Sorry I couldn't help more.

ablack · 08-03-2003, 11:32 AM

Thanks.... I actually felt bad posting about this, because I know it has to have been covered before, and one of my other boards has "Use the **** search function" drummed into everyone's head, but with it being disabled, I looked through about 30 pages of this forum and couldn't find anything, so I just posted.

I've always hated drum brakes for this reason, and ours just seem to be more complex and poorly documented which just frustrates me more. I might go give it another try today and see if I have any better luck.

jef5150 · 08-03-2003, 11:52 AM

hope it comes out ok.......jeff

ablack · 08-03-2003, 12:44 PM

Thanks... that picture will help. One question I still have if anyone can answer is where does the "Shoe Guide" go? That's the thing that is about 1/4" thick and looks like a washer with "wings".

Anyone??

Jefe · 08-03-2003, 12:56 PM

Shoe guide is at the top of the whole brake assembly. It goes on that post that sticks out above the wheel cylinder. Goes on behind the springs that rest on that post.

PanelDeland · 08-03-2003, 07:15 PM

#1 Suggestion of all time for folks who don't do brakes often.Go ahead and buy the parts you need.Take the passenger side apart.Take the drivers side drumONLY off.Now you have a guide to use putting back the passenger side.When passenger side is done,don't put drum on until you use it for a guide to put the drivers side back together.
Now gather up your cores and go get credit for them.

Dandeluxe · 08-03-2003, 07:21 PM

i hope this helps

**raggedjim** · 08-03-2003, 07:45 PM

Dandeluxe, I noticed you don't have the flat bar that has a spring on one end between your shoes ( I can't really describe it better than that but it fits above the axle in the square notches on the shoes...) When I changed my shoes I noticed my truck doesn't have them and it worried me (truck stilll stops) What are those things ??? Do I NEED them???

Thanks, Roger

Dandeluxe · 08-03-2003, 07:50 PM

Roger, that flat bar s what makes your emergency brakes work
if you look at that drawing up on a previous post it shows how they go together..... . DAN

08-03-2003, 03:23 AM	#2
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,672	Step back, take a deep breath, drink a beer and you can approach it again in the morning. This came up a couple of weeks ago and somebody had posted a pic and diagram of how it all goes back together. I can tell you that the shorter shoe goes on the front. I'd do it for you, but that's a little difficult over the internet. Sorry I couldn't help more. __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten...

08-03-2003, 11:52 AM	#4
jef5150 Inline 69 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: valleysprings,california Posts: 1,018	here ya go hope it comes out ok.......jeff Attached Images

08-03-2003, 12:56 PM	#6
Jefe Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 299	Shoe guide is at the top of the whole brake assembly. It goes on that post that sticks out above the wheel cylinder. Goes on behind the springs that rest on that post. __________________ -1968 Chevy SWB = Frame Off/383/Muncie Car 4 speed -1968 Chevy SWB = numbers matching 307/Truck 4 speed. -1966 Chevy II = 2 door No Post/130,000 Orig miles/230 6cyl/powerglide/Vintage AC -1972 Chevy Nova = 2 door/412 Small Block -1927 Ford Roadster = Homebuilt/widened 8"/350/ Custom Everything.

08-03-2003, 07:15 PM	#7
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	#1 Suggestion of all time for folks who don't do brakes often.Go ahead and buy the parts you need.Take the passenger side apart.Take the drivers side drumONLY off.Now you have a guide to use putting back the passenger side.When passenger side is done,don't put drum on until you use it for a guide to put the drivers side back together. Now gather up your cores and go get credit for them. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

08-03-2003, 07:21 PM	#8
Dandeluxe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: st.louis mo. Posts: 717	drum brakes i hope this helps Attached Images __________________ 1969 cst swb 350/400 th . DANNY C . ["]FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE F@RD$!! 1969 cst swb corvette hugger orange with 400 hp sbc I started out with nothing and i held on to it

08-02-2003, 11:46 PM	#1
ablack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 20	Drum Brake Help Needed!!! Alright...... I've been working on my rear drums half the day and I'm ready to throw them through the window. I took them apart last week to rebuild them, thought I was being all clever by taking pictures, but obviously not enough, because I spend my day surrounded by the Haynes manual, printed pictures and a pile of parts and made no progress. Does anyone have a good source of a diagram of the rear brake drums that show how the things go together? Just when I thought I was making progress, I came across the "Shoe Guide" according to the Haynes, and I have no idea where to put it. I'm almost frustrated enough to just order the disk conversion kit and lose the drums! Anyone got any ideas??? Alan '72 C-1500 Fleetside Elk Grove, CA

08-03-2003, 11:32 AM	#3
ablack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 20	Thanks.... I actually felt bad posting about this, because I know it has to have been covered before, and one of my other boards has "Use the **** search function" drummed into everyone's head, but with it being disabled, I looked through about 30 pages of this forum and couldn't find anything, so I just posted. I've always hated drum brakes for this reason, and ours just seem to be more complex and poorly documented which just frustrates me more. I might go give it another try today and see if I have any better luck.

08-03-2003, 12:44 PM	#5
ablack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 20	Thanks... that picture will help. One question I still have if anyone can answer is where does the "Shoe Guide" go? That's the thing that is about 1/4" thick and looks like a washer with "wings". Anyone??

08-03-2003, 07:45 PM	#9
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,650	Dandeluxe, I noticed you don't have the flat bar that has a spring on one end between your shoes ( I can't really describe it better than that but it fits above the axle in the square notches on the shoes...) When I changed my shoes I noticed my truck doesn't have them and it worried me (truck stilll stops) What are those things ??? Do I NEED them??? Thanks, Roger __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=856475 '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Ideas - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851743

08-03-2003, 07:50 PM	#10
Dandeluxe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: st.louis mo. Posts: 717	drum brakes Roger, that flat bar s what makes your emergency brakes work if you look at that drawing up on a previous post it shows how they go together..... . DAN __________________ 1969 cst swb 350/400 th . DANNY C . ["]FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE F@RD$!! 1969 cst swb corvette hugger orange with 400 hp sbc I started out with nothing and i held on to it



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