67 c10 5 Lug Swap ? Ive Searched

[str8lnr]

I Have A 67 c10 And Was Originally Gonna Swap To 4.75 pattern but i scored a nice set of 5x5 american racing 200s, So I Was Wondering What All I Need From A Junkyard 72-87 Truck For The Swap On The Front to 5 lug disk, I Dont Want To Change The Whole Crossmember Because I Done A 5.3 Swap And Done Some Modding On My Crossmember That I Dont Want Go Through That Again Just Trying To Get A Clear Answer Iv Read So Many Conflicting Post I Just Want To Be Clear On What All Is Needed, Thanks

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

I Have A 67 c10 And Was Originally Gonna Swap To 4.75 pattern but i scored a nice set of 5x5 american racing 200s, So I Was Wondering What All I Need From A Junkyard 72-87 Truck For The Swap On The Front to 5 lug disk, I Dont Want To Change The Whole Crossmember Because I Done A 5.3 Swap And Done Some Modding On My Crossmember That I Dont Want Go Through That Again Just Trying To Get A Clear Answer Iv Read So Many Conflicting Post I Just Want To Be Clear On What All Is Needed, Thanks

Welcome to the site.... How hard did you search?

Directly above this section is a sub-section w/'stickies' that contains frequently asked questions. The last of the 8 topics listed is drum to disc conversions....
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

That should provide some insight.

For the rear you'll need some aftermarket replacement axles & 71-72 drums (using new parts to convert) or swap a 5-lug rear into place (wrecking yard swap candidates are 71-87's) but they will be 1.5" wider over-all. Another option is to have your 47yr old axles re-drilled to the 5x5 pattern.

[str8lnr]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Welcome to the site.... How hard did you search?

Directly above this section is a sub-section w/'stickies' that contains frequently asked questions. The last of the 8 topics listed is drum to disc conversions....
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

That should provide some insight.

For the rear you'll need some aftermarket replacement axles & 71-72 drums (using new parts to convert) or swap a 5-lug rear into place (wrecking yard swap candidates are 71-87's) but they will be 1.5" wider over-all. Another option is to have your 47yr old axles re-drilled to the 5x5 pattern.

I Did Read That But I Didnt See Anything About The Tierod links

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

I Did Read That But I Didnt See Anything About The Tierod links

What do you want to know?

[str8lnr]

Originally Posted by lolife99

What do you want to know?

I Just Want To Know Exactly What All I Will Need To Do The Swap On The Front Over To 5 Lug Using 73-87 Parts

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

I Just Want To Know Exactly What All I Will Need To Do The Swap On The Front Over To 5 Lug Using 73-87 Parts

LIST of the way I would do it:
1) 63-70 conversion spindles
2) 73-87 HD rotors, caliper, bearings
3) 71-72 M/C and prop valve (direct bolt on)

LIST with 73-87 parts:
1) 73-87 spindles, rotors, calipers, bearings.
2) 73-87 Upper and lower ball joints
3) 73-87 steering, ALL of it. Centerlink, tie rods, pitman arm, idler arm.
These parts are 24 years old at the newest.
They all need to be inspected and rebuilt or replaced.
4) 73-87 M/C and prop valve.
Fabricate M/C mount and correct brake pedal length.

[aggie91]

Here is a basic list from the junk yard:

73-87 Spindles, get the ones that used the 1.25" thick rotor

For brakes, I would buy new parts:
Wheel Bearings, Inner & Outer
Rotor, 1.25" thick
Caliper
Pads
Hoses
Outer Tie Rods
Upper Ball Joints
Lower Ball Joints
Tie Rod adapter Sleeves: '67 inners are 5/8"-18 threads, '73-'87 outers are 11/16"-18 threads. These can be found at a number of companies, CPP, ECE, Performance Online:
Here is one of the sleeves: http://www.hotchkis.net/tie-rod-sleeves-58-1116.html. I know that is the high dollar one, but I could not find a link to the others in my quick search.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by aggie91

Here is a basic list from the junk yard:

73-87 Spindles, get the ones that used the 1.25" thick rotor

For brakes, I would buy new parts:
Wheel Bearings, Inner & Outer
Rotor, 1.25" thick
Caliper
Pads
Hoses
Outer Tie Rods
Upper Ball Joints
Lower Ball Joints
Tie Rod adapter Sleeves: '67 inners are 5/8"-18 threads, '73-'87 outers are 11/16"-18 threads. These can be found at a number of companies, CPP, ECE, Performance Online.

One correction.
You definitely use 73-87 OUTER tie rods to connect to the 73-87 spindle.
These tie rods are RH thread.

Here's the problem,...
63-70 INNER tie rods are ALSO RH thread.
So you have to use a 63-70 Outer tie rod moved to the inner location to get a LH thread.
Plus the conversion tie rods are a $50 purchase.

Use of 63-70 conversion spindles allows you to replace all your steering parts with the correct truck year parts. (63-70)

[aggie91]

Originally Posted by lolife99

One correction.
You definitely use 73-87 OUTER tie rods to connect to the 73-87 spindle.
These tie rods are RH thread.

Here's the problem,...
63-70 INNER tie rods are ALSO RH thread.
So you have to use a 63-70 Outer tie rod moved to the inner location to get a LH thread.
Plus the conversion tie rods are a $50 purchase.

Use of 63-70 conversion spindles allows you to replace all your steering parts with the correct truck year parts. (63-70)

Thanks, Keith. I completely forgot that I used the OEM outer as the inner when I did the swap years ago. Thanks for clarifying that point.

[str8lnr]

Originally Posted by lolife99

LIST of the way I would do it:
1) 63-70 conversion spindles
2) 73-87 HD rotors, caliper, bearings
3) 71-72 M/C and prop valve (direct bolt on)

LIST with 73-87 parts:
1) 73-87 spindles, rotors, calipers, bearings.
2) 73-87 Upper and lower ball joints
3) 73-87 steering, ALL of it. Centerlink, tie rods, pitman arm, idler arm.
These parts are 24 years old at the newest.
They all need to be inspected and rebuilt or replaced.
4) 73-87 M/C and prop valve.
Fabricate M/C mount and correct brake pedal length.

I Have Already Converted Over To Power Brakes Using Later Model Master Cylinder And Booster, Thanks Very Much For The Help

[str8lnr]

So If I Get The Complete Draglink And Pitman And Idler Arm the After Market Sleeves Are Not Necessary Correct?

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

So If I Get The Complete Draglink And Pitman And Idler Arm the After Market Sleeves Are Not Necessary Correct?

correct.
Everything needs to match the year of spindle that you use.
That's the key to doing these swaps.

[str8lnr]

Originally Posted by lolife99

correct.
Everything needs to match the year of spindle that you use.
That's the key to doing these swaps.

Iv Been Reading Around And Was Wondering If I Can Use Later Model Control Arms And All?

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

Iv Been Reading Around And Was Wondering If I Can Use Later Model Control Arms And All?

Thats a very general question.
You can use 73-87 or 71-72 a-arms.
Balljoints and tie rods need to match the spindle.

[str8lnr]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Thats a very general question.
You can use 73-87 or 71-72 a-arms.
Balljoints and tie rods need to match the spindle.

Mine Is A 67 So Im Assuming 73-87 Control Arms Are A No Go

[str8lnr]

sorry i see what you said now i feel like a noob

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

Mine Is A 67 So Im Assuming 73-87 Control Arms Are A No Go

Originally Posted by lolife99

You can use 73-87 or 71-72 a-arms.
Balljoints and tie rods need to match the spindle.

As mentioned, 73-87 arms can be used...

[str8lnr]

So Just So I Only Have To Make One Trip To The Junk yard I Need
Control arms
spindles
calipers
rotors
complete draglink
rubber hoses
idler and pitmans arms
And I Want To Thank You Guys For All The Help I Really Appreciate It

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by str8lnr

So Just So I Only Have To Make One Trip To The Junk yard I Need
Control arms
spindles
calipers
rotors
complete draglink
rubber hoses
idler and pitmans arms
And I Want To Thank You Guys For All The Help I Really Appreciate It

Just remember,... most of these parts are going to be wore out.
I feel like what I am saying is not understood.
The draglink and the spindles can be re-used.
All the other parts need to be purchased new.
Steering and braking are a HUGE safety issue.

If you are going to take the time and effort to disassemble your truck,... put NEW reliable parts back on.
If you can't afford it,... wait until you can.
This is the last time I will post in this thread.

[str8lnr]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Just remember,... most of these parts are going to be wore out.
I feel like what I am saying is not understood.
The draglink and the spindles can be re-used.
All the other parts need to be purchased new.
Steering and braking are a HUGE safety issue.

If you are going to take the time and effort to disassemble your truck,... put NEW reliable parts back on.
If you can't afford it,... wait until you can.
This is the last time I will post in this thread.

lolife99, I read You Loud And Clear, The Safety Parts Will Be Bought New Im Just Making Sure That I Have A Complete List Of Parts I Need, And I Will Need The Old Calipers For Cores, I Just Dont Want To Make Another Trip To The Junk Yard, Thats Why I Was Asking, Im Sorry If Iv Offended You But Rest Assure Im Not Putting Any Thing Wore Out On This Truck i Regularly Haul My Six Year Old Son In This Thing, Heck I Just Replaced The Left Wheel Bearings Today Knowing Ill Be Swapping It All Out Next Weekend, I Really Do Appreciate Your Help And Hope Iv Not Made Any Body Mad , Thanks