Pair of big block short beds on eBay - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

davepl · 08-20-2014, 04:26 PM

Not mine. One is hugger orange, tons of options, but no mention of what's original.

Why does anyone post these trucks for sale without a SPID?

Styleside (Fleetside):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222476173...:SS:SS:US:1120

Stepside:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222130703...:SS:SS:US:3160

**leddzepp** · 08-20-2014, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by davepl

Why does anyone post these trucks for sale without a SPID?

Because it means nothing to most people. Condition of the vehicle is what people are concerned about. Rust free sheet metal is what sells trucks, not stickers

**68350** · 08-20-2014, 05:12 PM

The spid pics are probably missing from these two auctions cause the trucks were probably "cloned"

**Already Gone** · 08-20-2014, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davepl

Not mine. One is hugger orange, tons of options, but no mention of what's original.

Why does anyone post these trucks for sale without a SPID?

Styleside (Fleetside):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222130703...:SS:SS:US:3160

Stepside:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222130703...:SS:SS:US:3160

Dave you posted the same truck twice.

**Already Gone** · 08-20-2014, 05:26 PM

Here is another short step on EBay.. Why is it that dealers always seem to end up with these trucks and are trying to make 4/5000 above what the paid for them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361022271557...84.m1423.l2649

stsalvage · 08-20-2014, 05:33 PM

to me to high of a price for a short bed step side.

I can buy a 1957 Bel-Air for 25,000 with the New LT350 fuel injected these trucks are way out of hand on price

I've seen nice 1967--69 camaro's go for 25,000 No truck is worth over 20,000 your labor you will never get it back nether will you get the cost of the paint back

davepl · 08-20-2014, 05:51 PM

Sorry, here's the other one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222476173...:SS:SS:US:1120

I think they're priced right if they're real and original and have had a frame-off. I don't think that appears to be the case.

There is a HUGE price difference between long bed small block and short bed big block (and I don't have a short bed, so no horse in this race). Like the difference between Chevelle SS and a Chevelle 300 four-door. Well, maybe not that big. Maybe between a Chevelle SS 454 and a Chevelle 300 w/ small block.

**Already Gone** · 08-20-2014, 05:59 PM

Dave looks like your two trucks are from the same EBay seller. It says he is thinning his collection.

**WIDESIDE72** · 08-20-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by davepl

Sorry, here's the other one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222476173...:SS:SS:US:1120

I think they're priced right if they're real and original and have had a frame-off. I don't think that appears to be the case.

There is a HUGE price difference between long bed small block and short bed big block (and I don't have a short bed, so no horse in this race). Like the difference between Chevelle SS and a Chevelle 300 four-door. Well, maybe not that big. Maybe between a Chevelle SS 454 and a Chevelle 300 w/ small block.

Funny that it is a "Custom 10", yet it has a cheyenne (CST?) headliner. I could almost the fact that it was just an oddly optioned truck if it weren't for that. I am about 99% sure you could order a tilt wheel, buckets/ console, v8, auto trans, AC and tack on an othewise "base" model truck,but the only trucks I have seen with a headliner were cheyenne. I believe the stainless pedal trim only came on the level trucks.

**WIDESIDE72** · 08-20-2014, 08:44 PM

My middle brother had a 72 Custom 10 with 19k miles. It was a pale yellow lwb,white bumpers and wheels, poverty caps but had a PS, PB,big block 400/TH400 and AC, not much else, even a radio delete. A custom cabinet shop ordered it to pull their install trailer (but it had coils in back) (?) He got the window sticker and they paid more for it than my uncle did for his 72 cheyenne 10 black/black lwb 400/400 with tilt, bedside toolbox, am/cm and tach. He bought it off the lot from AJ Foyt Chevy in Pasadena Tx. I have also seen a few cheyenne trucks with 6cyl/ 3ott powertrains as well.

davepl · 08-20-2014, 10:59 PM

This should answer any questions anyone has about them.

**Already Gone** · 08-20-2014, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by davepl

This should answer any questions anyone has about them.

Somehow that I don't think that Spid was typed up and installed at the factory !!

**RenoKeene** · 08-21-2014, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stsalvage

to me to high of a price for a short bed step side.

I can buy a 1957 Bel-Air for 25,000 with the New LT350 fuel injected these trucks are way out of hand on price

I've seen nice 1967--69 camaro's go for 25,000 No truck is worth over 20,000 your labor you will never get it back nether will you get the cost of the paint back

No truck is worth over 20,000? A LOT of us in here would beg to differ, including me.

MARKDTN · 08-21-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Already Gone

Somehow that I don't think that Spid was typed up and installed at the factory !!

Agree-that is not even close!

**special-K** · 08-21-2014, 11:19 AM

That SPID sticker is essential to determining true value of truck as a factory big block SWB. That is a class to itself in the world of truck collectors. But,even more important is the GVW on the VIN-Plate. The Fleetside is said to be a factory BBC. The Stepside he never quite says it's a factory big block

mcbassin · 08-21-2014, 11:28 AM

Those are some really nice trucks Davepl. Thanks for sharing them. The orange and white one is a super looking and as nicely restored (from the pictures) as you will see on ebay. I think the prices on both are very "reasonable" considering what it costs to build one this nice, I'm sure they aren't making any profit, probably losing money.

As for the SPID questions, the picture answers that. To find the "holy grail" swb big block numbers matching etc. is pretty rare. I doubt they would be nearly as nice as either of these examples but rare none the less.

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No truck is worth over 20,000

$20K for a truck is kind of cheap for a really nicely restored example

doubleb's69 · 08-21-2014, 03:02 PM

"Loaded with all the options including" "GM rally wheels, center caps, trim rings" Pretty rare. (sarcasm)

davepl · 08-21-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RenoKeene

No truck is worth over 20,000? A LOT of us in here would beg to differ, including me.

I think these trucks top out at at $45K and it has to be a very rare and desirable and original truck at Pebble Beach standards.

Below is a truck that if it were real and stock is probably a $40K truck. It's not through (engine chromed up, power steering hose dirty, wrong master cylinder, wrong rallys and so on). Still beautiful of course. If its a factory color even better, but I don't think it is (mine's DK BLU and isn't that dark). I'm assuming its a short bed.

**Cash3481** · 08-21-2014, 03:44 PM

Someone should ask for a picture of the exhaust hangers under the bed and cab (Hard, but not imposible, to duplicate the rivets). We could close this question of authenticity quick I would think.
Either way the trucks are nice...
Mike

hamjet · 08-21-2014, 03:46 PM

You can start from scratch and spend that much in all new parts alone, and an awfull lot of time involved also, or you can buy one of these all ready to drive away in. Probably not 'original' as from the factory, but who's is. they're very clean and it was hard to find fault on workmanship on them. I would like to see some underside shots also. Very nicely done on both of them. You just can't knock that....

davepl · 08-21-2014, 03:50 PM

The orange one sold at Mecum (Indy 2012) for $27K

http://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?...=SC0512-125988

Mindl3ss · 08-21-2014, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davepl

The orange one sold at Mecum (Indy 2012) for $27K

http://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?...=SC0512-125988

I haven't been around that long.

I used to keep a graph of the value on my '67 Camaro over the years. Just kind of something for my own personal history.

Has anyone done similar for these trucks? Has the market changed much in ~2 years? If it did sell for $27K at one point then the asking price on eBay is definitely not outside of the realm, and the "make an offer" button means you may be able to get it closer to that $27K tag.

mcbassin · 08-21-2014, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davepl

The orange one sold at Mecum (Indy 2012) for $27K

http://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?...=SC0512-125988

Interesting find Dave.

Ebay will gouge him for some fees but I bet it could be bought for near that $27k range.

**kitsbeach** · 08-21-2014, 09:19 PM

Both of them are pretty nice

davepl · 08-21-2014, 09:25 PM

The blue one I posted above sold for $27,500 at BJ Scottsdale 2010. I'm becoming quite the detective :-)

And it looks like for really nice cloned trucks 27K is about right.

08-20-2014, 04:26 PM	#1
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Pair of big block short beds on eBay Not mine. One is hugger orange, tons of options, but no mention of what's original. Why does anyone post these trucks for sale without a SPID? Styleside (Fleetside): http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222476173...:SS:SS:US:1120 Stepside: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222130703...:SS:SS:US:3160 __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible Last edited by davepl; 08-20-2014 at 05:51 PM.

08-20-2014, 05:12 PM	#3
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay The spid pics are probably missing from these two auctions cause the trucks were probably "cloned" __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

08-20-2014, 05:26 PM	#5
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,111	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay Here is another short step on EBay.. Why is it that dealers always seem to end up with these trucks and are trying to make 4/5000 above what the paid for them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/361022271557...84.m1423.l2649 __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

08-20-2014, 05:33 PM	#6
stsalvage Scrapper 1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Riverside Calif Posts: 1,649	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay to me to high of a price for a short bed step side. I can buy a 1957 Bel-Air for 25,000 with the New LT350 fuel injected these trucks are way out of hand on price I've seen nice 1967--69 camaro's go for 25,000 No truck is worth over 20,000 your labor you will never get it back nether will you get the cost of the paint back

08-20-2014, 05:51 PM	#7
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay Sorry, here's the other one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/291222476173...:SS:SS:US:1120 I think they're priced right if they're real and original and have had a frame-off. I don't think that appears to be the case. There is a HUGE price difference between long bed small block and short bed big block (and I don't have a short bed, so no horse in this race). Like the difference between Chevelle SS and a Chevelle 300 four-door. Well, maybe not that big. Maybe between a Chevelle SS 454 and a Chevelle 300 w/ small block. __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

08-20-2014, 05:59 PM	#8
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,111	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay Dave looks like your two trucks are from the same EBay seller. It says he is thinning his collection. __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

08-20-2014, 08:44 PM	#10
WIDESIDE72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 7,496	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay My middle brother had a 72 Custom 10 with 19k miles. It was a pale yellow lwb,white bumpers and wheels, poverty caps but had a PS, PB,big block 400/TH400 and AC, not much else, even a radio delete. A custom cabinet shop ordered it to pull their install trailer (but it had coils in back) (?) He got the window sticker and they paid more for it than my uncle did for his 72 cheyenne 10 black/black lwb 400/400 with tilt, bedside toolbox, am/cm and tach. He bought it off the lot from AJ Foyt Chevy in Pasadena Tx. I have also seen a few cheyenne trucks with 6cyl/ 3ott powertrains as well.

08-20-2014, 10:59 PM	#11
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay This should answer any questions anyone has about them. Attached Images __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

08-21-2014, 11:19 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,859	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay That SPID sticker is essential to determining true value of truck as a factory big block SWB. That is a class to itself in the world of truck collectors. But,even more important is the GVW on the VIN-Plate. The Fleetside is said to be a factory BBC. The Stepside he never quite says it's a factory big block __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

08-21-2014, 03:02 PM	#17
doubleb's69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,241	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay "Loaded with all the options including" "GM rally wheels, center caps, trim rings" Pretty rare. (sarcasm) __________________ Bud

08-21-2014, 03:44 PM	#19
Cash3481 Loves all GMC trucks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Columbia Mo Posts: 4,435	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay Someone should ask for a picture of the exhaust hangers under the bed and cab (Hard, but not imposible, to duplicate the rivets). We could close this question of authenticity quick I would think. Either way the trucks are nice... Mike __________________ Mike If your helping someone and expecting something in return... your doing business not kindness!

08-21-2014, 03:46 PM	#20
hamjet Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South Westerlo, New York Posts: 1,325	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay You can start from scratch and spend that much in all new parts alone, and an awfull lot of time involved also, or you can buy one of these all ready to drive away in. Probably not 'original' as from the factory, but who's is. they're very clean and it was hard to find fault on workmanship on them. I would like to see some underside shots also. Very nicely done on both of them. You just can't knock that.... __________________ Thanks, Joe.. 1969 C/10, 348 C.I., 3X2 bbl. V8, 2004r , LWB.

08-21-2014, 03:50 PM	#21
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay The orange one sold at Mecum (Indy 2012) for $27K http://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?...=SC0512-125988 __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

08-21-2014, 09:19 PM	#24
kitsbeach Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 504	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay Both of them are pretty nice

08-21-2014, 09:25 PM	#25
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Pair of big block short beds on eBay The blue one I posted above sold for $27,500 at BJ Scottsdale 2010. I'm becoming quite the detective :-) And it looks like for really nice cloned trucks 27K is about right. __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible



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