auto in a K10

[pimpston65]

awhile back i was on 456chevytrucks web site looking for parts refrence and saw a black K10 that had auto, but the didnt show a clear picture of the linkage and how the transfer case bracket on the trans plays into this, does anyone have details!!! pics would be helpful also, thks...

[MikeS.]

Why don't you email Tony and ask him about it?

[60-66]

My thoughts are he didn't use the stock 66 transfer case . Most likely used the later combined trans and transfer case. Have his phone and email info if needed

[padresag]

there is room there though if one wanted to use the stock t/c. i do believe that there is a thread or two on here which shows 2 different ways to mount the shifter mechanisms. Tony I think was one of them
ron

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by MikeS.

Why don't you email Tony and ask him about it?

i stopped dealing with em after a bad deal!! i got my money back so im cool...

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by 60-66

My thoughts are he didn't use the stock 66 transfer case . Most likely used the later combined trans and transfer case. Have his phone and email info if needed

maybe its just a pipe dream to have oem parts with my options. maybe i will contact tony... thks guys!!!

[61K10]

as Ron said, there might be room. if you move the eng forward some and use a short th350 or a 2004r and a short D/shaft to t/f case.

[padresag]

you don't have to move the engine forward, I have a t5 in mine and a 205 independent and there is about 10" between the centres of the ujoints. if I am not happy with the t5 I do have a 700r4 sitting by though a 2000r4 is abit shorter
ron

[padresag]

you could make a shifter bracket that comes off where the tailhousing bolts to the main a/t case. the other way is to use something like the rear cab mounting bracket and mount it off the inside of the frame where you want the shifter to come up
ron

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by padresag

you could make a shifter bracket that comes off where the tailhousing bolts to the main a/t case. the other way is to use something like the rear cab mounting bracket and mount it off the inside of the frame where you want the shifter to come up
ron

i was thinkin bout the fab'd bracket off the tailhousing since the cab will be off the frame and i will have full access to it all. i will also be able to work better to see what works and doesnt and can switch it... thks for all the input!!!

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by 61K10

as Ron said, there might be room. if you move the eng forward some and use a short th350 or a 2004r and a short D/shaft to t/f case.

the engine move may not work in my combo 292 since it was the offset mounts already...

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by padresag

you don't have to move the engine forward, I have a t5 in mine and a 205 independent and there is about 10" between the centres of the ujoints. if I am not happy with the t5 I do have a 700r4 sitting by though a 2000r4 is abit shorter
ron

i too have that np205, it that a good 4speed? also can the ratios be switched? cuz i what daily driving while aggressive in the outback if need be!!!

[padresag]

np205 is a transfer case and mine is an isolated one. perhaps you are talking about the 365 4speed with the 205 tc atttached?
ron

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by padresag

np205 is a transfer case and mine is an isolated one. perhaps you are talking about the 365 4speed with the 205 tc atttached?
ron

the 4speed has Np on it, its aluminum top and cast base, hence new process at least thats what i thought,but im new to the manual game...

[padresag]

is this the orig trans. then it will be a NP420. NP stands for New Process. so your trans is a New Process and your orig transfer case would have been a Timken as in T-221. in the newer models that trans was upgraded o a T365 and the 4 x 4 had a NP205 adapted to the NP365 so it became a 1 piece unit, IHC and Dodge did use an independent NP 205 and it was mounted like the T221 in that it was separate from the main trans. so with an independent T/C you can mount any trans that you want in front of it as it will connect with a short d?shaft
ron

[pimpston65]

just when i knew how little i did know, someone comes along and shows me how much less i know, you know!!! this forum is awesome. i started my build in 98' and had i known about it, and the internet for that matter back then, i wouldnt be as dumb as i am. thks all, im sure i can make this auto 4x4 thing happen!!!

[padresag]

np365 and np420 should have read as sm365 and sm420
ron

[1966]

Originally Posted by pimpston65

awhile back i was on 456chevytrucks web site looking for parts refrence and saw a black K10 that had auto, but the didnt show a clear picture of the linkage and how the transfer case bracket on the trans plays into this, does anyone have details!!! pics would be helpful also, thks...

I have a 350 w/ th350 & NP205 - let me know if you need any pics

[66Submarine]

Originally Posted by pimpston65

the 4speed has Np on it, its aluminum top and cast base, hence new process at least thats what i thought,but im new to the manual game...

Maybe a New Process NP435? http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/np435.htm

FWIW, the '88-'91 SM465's also had an aluminum top cover (it's SM465, not SM365).

Original trans would have been the SM420 with reverse to the left and down.

The SM420 and SM465 are both Muncie transmissions and the "SM" in the name stands for "Synchro-Mesh".

[Captainfab]

If you still have the original T221 transfer case, you can easily fit a TH350 or TH400 in between it and your 292. You'll just have a shorter driveshaft between the trans and TC than you have now.

If it were mine, I would not bother with the T221 TC. I would upgrade to a TH350 or TH400 with either a NP205 or NP241 transfer case.

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

If you still have the original T221 transfer case, you can easily fit a TH350 or TH400 in between it and your 292. You'll just have a shorter driveshaft between the trans and TC than you have now.

If it were mine, I would not bother with the T221 TC. I would upgrade to a TH350 or TH400 with either a NP205 or NP241 transfer case.

thks Captainfab, now i gotta change the shift indicator selector. auto K10 here i come, oh wait what about the crossmember?

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by 66Submarine

Maybe a New Process NP435? http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/np435.htm

FWIW, the '88-'91 SM465's also had an aluminum top cover (it's SM465, not SM365).

Original trans would have been the SM420 with reverse to the left and down.

The SM420 and SM465 are both Muncie transmissions and the "SM" in the name stands for "Synchro-Mesh".

my rev is right and down, i got it off and older 292 not sure what yr thou...

[Captainfab]

You will have to remove the bellhousing crossmember and install an auto trans crossmember at the rear of the trans. Make sure your driveshaft angles are correct when you do the install. Even though it is a short shaft, you don't want U-joint issues.

Originally Posted by pimpston65

thks Captainfab, now i gotta change the shift indicator selector. auto K10 here i come, oh wait what about the crossmember?