What would you do?? (dash bezel) - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Kungfoogrip · 11-30-2014, 08:49 PM

Ok here goes....my 71 instrument cluster originally just had the speedometer and the fuel gauge on the sides and in the center was the alternator and turn signal indicators. The PO cut two holes in the bezel for an after market oil psi and water temp gauges. Pretty crappy looking if you ask me. So my question is I want to get new bezel but I am not sure which one I should get. Should I go back original or should I add some gauges and get the bezel accordingly. If i am going original I am seriously considering getting the new printed circuit and instrument lens. So what would you guys do? I am also installing my new wiring harness from AAW.

Thanks

Andy4639 · 11-30-2014, 08:54 PM

Get a 7 gauge cluster and change it over in the wiring and motor senors. You will be much happier with it in my opinion.

**FirstOwner69** · 11-30-2014, 09:07 PM

My truck had the 3 hole idiot light gauges also. Below area couple I did. If you go the factory 7 hole route you'll have to make some wiring changes as described here http://gmcpauls.com/Tech%2520Tips1.htm

**DeadheadNM** · 11-30-2014, 09:31 PM

I'd upgrade to OEM gauge cluster as above. You could pay to become a Premium Member of the site and post WTB ad for the correct OEM harness and gauge cluster - not hard too get and a relatively inexpensive route.

**TBONE1964** · 11-30-2014, 09:39 PM

Let me know when you are ready and I can take care of all of your cluster needs as well as assisting with wiring changes that need to be done. I specialize in 1967 - 1972 Chevy/GMC gauge cluster restoration and repair. I also sell parts .

I also suggest you pay for a membership here. Best $25.00 you will spend.

Take care,
Tom

Kungfoogrip · 11-30-2014, 09:43 PM

TBONE pm sent. thanks

davepl · 11-30-2014, 11:00 PM

I believe LMC and maybe Classic Industries sell entire turnkey setups with all gauges, PCB, and so on. Not cheap (over $700 if I recall, but check).

I can recommend TBONE as being a great guy to deal with and if he's got what you need, or can get it, the way to go. May be other vendors too, he's just the one that helped me out with a Speed Warning cluster issue and it was a good experience.

Nitis · 11-30-2014, 11:12 PM

Getting ready to tackle this project on dad's truck.

Op sounds like the buggies part is done already seeing you have a temp gauge and oil gauge you may be able to use those supplies to your new gauge cluster

**TBONE1964** · 11-30-2014, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kungfoogrip

TBONE pm sent. thanks

PM returned

Thank you
Tom

**TBONE1964** · 11-30-2014, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davepl

I believe LMC and maybe Classic Industries sell entire turnkey setups with all gauges, PCB, and so on. Not cheap (over $700 if I recall, but check).

I can recommend TBONE as being a great guy to deal with and if he's got what you need, or can get it, the way to go. May be other vendors too, he's just the one that helped me out with a Speed Warning cluster issue and it was a good experience.

I apprecaite the kind words Dave. Thank you

Kungfoogrip · 11-30-2014, 11:31 PM

Lets get the ball rolling TBONE...PM sent Thanks!

Nitis · 11-30-2014, 11:44 PM

Does anyone offer a plug in adapter to avoid re routing the wires? Just unplug from the three hole plug into adapter that reroutes things and plugs into 7 hole bezel?

Maybe the wiring is just so simple? And this won't avoid the hardware needed to get the temp and oil working right

**TBONE1964** · 11-30-2014, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitis

Does anyone offer a plug in adapter to avoid re routing the wires? Just unplug from the three hole plug into adapter that reroutes things and plugs into 7 hole bezel?

Maybe the wiring is just so simple? And this won't avoid the hardware needed to get the temp and oil working right

It is not actually re routing the wiring but re pinning the warning light cluster connector to work on a gauge cluster. The connector for both gauge and waring light clusters is the same. Some of the terminals will need to be switched in the connector and some wiring will need to be added for the amp gauge.

Hope this helps
Tom

Nitis · 12-01-2014, 12:17 AM

Yeah we went over that diagram several times today. Which is why I though a little plug deal might be out there. Thx

heathbirkendahl · 12-01-2014, 01:02 AM

Looking to do the same to my 71' with white gauge face. Anyone have pics they can share?

**TBONE1964** · 12-01-2014, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitis

Yeah we went over that diagram several times today. Which is why I though a little plug deal might be out there. Thx

It would be nice if there was a female connector to mate with the male connector that plugs into the cluster. That would make it a simple plug and play. Unfortunately, there is no such connector.

I have a how to in the electrical section of this forum on how to re pin the connector.

**TBONE1964** · 12-01-2014, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heathbirkendahl

Looking to do the same to my 71' with white gauge face. Anyone have pics they can share?

Here are some photos of a couple of white face conversions that I have done for other customers.

I received your PM and will respond to you soon

Take care,
Tom

heathbirkendahl · 12-01-2014, 02:20 AM

The bottom one is exactly what I am looking for. This would be a direct replacement minus adding the wiring for the tach, correct?

Thank you,
Heath

**TBONE1964** · 12-01-2014, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heathbirkendahl

The bottom one is exactly what I am looking for. This would be a direct replacement minus adding the wiring for the tach, correct?

Thank you,
Heath

That would be correct Heath if you already have the standard gauge cluster (amp, temp and oil pressure gauges). The tach uses a separate harness and I also make them in my shop as well.

Thank you,
Tom

magwakeenercew2jh · 12-01-2014, 02:51 AM

Gotta ask about sourcing a clock like in post #3 for my set-up.

Andy4639 · 12-01-2014, 03:11 AM

I got mine out of a 80"s model Chevy truck. I lost the second hand on the clock but it worked. Tbone redid this one also before I sold it.

jjzepplin · 12-01-2014, 07:15 AM

Subbing for the conversion info. I have a four speed harness with idiot lites that I want to put a tach and gauge cluster in. I see the amp gauge needs extra wiring.
Does anyone pre-make this wiring?

**TBONE1964** · 12-01-2014, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjzepplin

Subbing for the conversion info. I have a four speed harness with idiot lites that I want to put a tach and gauge cluster in. I see the amp gauge needs extra wiring.
Does anyone pre-make this wiring?

I don't think anyone is making a pre made wiring kit for this JJ. You have to add it in or just buy the correct wiring harness for under the hood and dash.

It is only two wires and you can find there location on a factory wiring diagram. I know one ties in to the little junction box near the battery and the other one goes to the alternator.

Hope this helps.
Tom

magwakeenercew2jh · 12-01-2014, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639

I got mine out of a 80"s model Chevy truck. I lost the second hand on the clock but it worked. Tbone redid this one also before I sold it.

Thanks, Andy.

mrein3 · 12-01-2014, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magwakeenercew2jh

Gotta ask about sourcing a clock like in post #3 for my set-up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639

I got mine out of a 80"s model Chevy truck. I lost the second hand on the clock but it worked. Tbone redid this one also before I sold it.

To add on to the clock part of this thread:
Look in 80's model trucks. I got mine out of a Suburban. Around here Subs seem to be better equipped so if your yard has a row of trucks and a row of subs, I start with the Subs.

To make a hole in the clear plastic, measure twice, then use a heated nail. I picked this nifty trick up on this board about 10 years ago.

11-30-2014, 08:49 PM	#1
Kungfoogrip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24	What would you do?? (dash bezel) Ok here goes....my 71 instrument cluster originally just had the speedometer and the fuel gauge on the sides and in the center was the alternator and turn signal indicators. The PO cut two holes in the bezel for an after market oil psi and water temp gauges. Pretty crappy looking if you ask me. So my question is I want to get new bezel but I am not sure which one I should get. Should I go back original or should I add some gauges and get the bezel accordingly. If i am going original I am seriously considering getting the new printed circuit and instrument lens. So what would you guys do? I am also installing my new wiring harness from AAW. Thanks

11-30-2014, 08:54 PM	#2
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Get a 7 gauge cluster and change it over in the wiring and motor senors. You will be much happier with it in my opinion. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

11-30-2014, 09:31 PM	#4
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,449	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) I'd upgrade to OEM gauge cluster as above. You could pay to become a Premium Member of the site and post WTB ad for the correct OEM harness and gauge cluster - not hard too get and a relatively inexpensive route. __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

11-30-2014, 09:39 PM	#5
TBONE1964 Cluster King Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Junction City, OR Posts: 5,262	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Let me know when you are ready and I can take care of all of your cluster needs as well as assisting with wiring changes that need to be done. I specialize in 1967 - 1972 Chevy/GMC gauge cluster restoration and repair. I also sell parts . I also suggest you pay for a membership here. Best $25.00 you will spend. Take care, Tom __________________ Contact me on all of your gauge cluster needs. I specialize in restoration, repair and parts sales for 67-72 Chevy and GMC trucks. email me at tbonegarris@yahoo.com I am also a dealer for Counterpart for gauge cluster parts only. Also see my facebook page, CG&C

11-30-2014, 09:43 PM	#6
Kungfoogrip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) TBONE pm sent. thanks

11-30-2014, 09:07 PM	#3
FirstOwner69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin & Arizona Posts: 4,852	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) My truck had the 3 hole idiot light gauges also. Below area couple I did. If you go the factory 7 hole route you'll have to make some wiring changes as described here http://gmcpauls.com/Tech%2520Tips1.htm Attached Images

11-30-2014, 11:00 PM	#7
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) I believe LMC and maybe Classic Industries sell entire turnkey setups with all gauges, PCB, and so on. Not cheap (over $700 if I recall, but check). I can recommend TBONE as being a great guy to deal with and if he's got what you need, or can get it, the way to go. May be other vendors too, he's just the one that helped me out with a Speed Warning cluster issue and it was a good experience. __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

11-30-2014, 11:12 PM	#8
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Getting ready to tackle this project on dad's truck. Op sounds like the buggies part is done already seeing you have a temp gauge and oil gauge you may be able to use those supplies to your new gauge cluster

11-30-2014, 11:31 PM	#11
Kungfoogrip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Lets get the ball rolling TBONE...PM sent Thanks!

11-30-2014, 11:44 PM	#12
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Does anyone offer a plug in adapter to avoid re routing the wires? Just unplug from the three hole plug into adapter that reroutes things and plugs into 7 hole bezel? Maybe the wiring is just so simple? And this won't avoid the hardware needed to get the temp and oil working right

12-01-2014, 12:17 AM	#14
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Yeah we went over that diagram several times today. Which is why I though a little plug deal might be out there. Thx

12-01-2014, 01:02 AM	#15
heathbirkendahl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 452	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Looking to do the same to my 71' with white gauge face. Anyone have pics they can share? __________________ 1971 C/10 - Orange & White 2009 GMC 1500 - Lowered 3/4 22' KMC Slides

12-01-2014, 02:20 AM	#18
heathbirkendahl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 452	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) The bottom one is exactly what I am looking for. This would be a direct replacement minus adding the wiring for the tach, correct? Thank you, Heath __________________ 1971 C/10 - Orange & White 2009 GMC 1500 - Lowered 3/4 22' KMC Slides

12-01-2014, 02:51 AM	#20
magwakeenercew2jh RAT1968 '68 Cab/'71 Parts Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 2,375	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) Gotta ask about sourcing a clock like in post #3 for my set-up. Attached Images __________________ M17 Coarsegold, CA RAT's shiny now. But always a rat.

12-01-2014, 03:11 AM	#21
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: What would you do?? (dash bezel) I got mine out of a 80"s model Chevy truck. I lost the second hand on the clock but it worked. Tbone redid this one also before I sold it. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.



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