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Old 12-17-2014, 02:04 PM   #1
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Patina...

Who made Patina cool...?
And where were they 25 years ago when all my parts trucks had the patina look.
In the early 1990's... I woulda been a Patinillionaire!!!
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:33 PM   #2
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Re: Patina...

I think they became cool when shiny paint jobs got to where the average income people, like myself, couldn't afford 7-10k in paint.
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:32 PM   #3
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Body works costs me only materials and I still love the patina look.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:25 PM   #4
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I was quoted $5000 for a paint job. paid $3000 for the truck. I will keep the patina look before I pay an insane amount for a paint job.think I will call Maaco
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:39 PM   #5
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Re: Patina...

Patina came from the anti-trailer queen movement that was ushered in around the time of rat rods in the late 1990's and did take a while to gain momentum. It is debatable, but I've heard a lot of rumors that it was a big middle finger to people with more dollars than sense to prove that all the money in the world can't buy style or attention.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:34 PM   #6
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Re: Patina...

Mines original paint with rattle can patches which, that's how it's staying. Maybe some clear coat next spring. I photo-shopped my truck with a rusty Patina just to see what it might have looked like in a rougher life. Really great fun to build and drive.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:35 PM   #7
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I was quoted $5000 for a paint job. paid $3000 for the truck. I will keep the patina look before I pay an insane amount for a paint job.think I will call Maaco
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:37 PM   #8
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Re: Patina...

Mine is not patina.. it's "3 metre"

That is, from three metres away it looks like a schmick paint job, but get any closer and the unevenness, the orange peel and the other faults become glaringly obvious. Patina looks good on our trucks because they are old workhorses and it suits them fine, but that's not to say that if you are that way inclined, and able, that you shouldn't give it a top notch paint job either!
What concerns me is when patina gets to the point of being able to see the road through the floor or the engine through the quarter panels. Patina's cool, tin rot's not

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Old 12-18-2014, 10:09 AM   #9
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I think Patina is being confused with laziness. I've seen artistic, creative patina finishes that gave the truck a sense of history, a feeling it was a survivor, when in reality it was a solid totally restored truck whose finish made it more interesting.
Good patina jobs are no different than hot girls wearing jeans with rips, they aren't wearing them because they can't afford jeans without them. It's all about a look.
That's not to say that some morons are wearing crappy ripped jeans and pawning it off as "in style."
Patina finish should be a choice nota substitute.....my opinion.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:32 AM   #10
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Re: Patina...

I don't know why the patina thing started, but I always had this thing about seeing old pickups in movies out west or south wearing the bone stock wear and tear look going down a dirt road shifting through the gears, and the sound of stock exhaust in the movies when life was alot simpler. I'd always say to my better half, some day when I retire I'm going to own an old chevy like that, and just drive it. I won't paint it or anything, as long as the body wasn't falling off. Of course this is before I ever heard of patina. I don't look at my truck and see patina, I see history of the trucks past, what its been through, battle scars I guess....
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:32 AM   #11
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Re: Patina...

For myself patina finish shows the true value of a original body. Espically here in Ontario seeing anything with original paint and rockers is cool. A fake patina job does nothing for me.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:44 AM   #12
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I was quoted $5000 for a paint job. paid $3000 for the truck. I will keep the patina look before I pay an insane amount for a paint job.think I will call Maaco
Just a word of warning, Maaco is the WORST place to take a car for paint. You get what you pay for when it comes to paint. a 1k paint job wont last more than 3 years where a 5-k will last, well, 5-10 years if you take care of it.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:33 AM   #13
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Re: Patina...

I blame Antiques Roadshow.....
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:40 AM   #14
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Re: Patina...

I was at N2Billets place a couple years ago... The Patina truck he has/had was awesome. All I could think about after I left was "that's the same look a few of my parts trucks had before I parted them out in 1992... "
Then again, mine did have a few more dents and rust on them.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:52 AM   #15
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...It is debatable, but I've heard a lot of rumors that it was a big middle finger to people with more dollars than sense to prove that all the money in the world can't buy style or attention.
I am all for that.
I was at SEMA with John (jhwkns from the board) at he was pointing out the body gaps and fitment issues on a lot of the SEMA vehicles. Of coarse I would like a nice paint, perfect body gap, straight body lines, perfectly fitted body panel truck. But after walking around with John and seeing the work/expense it must take to get a truck "right". Case in point- the ASS-Monkey 76 Chevy C10 pickup. I think Aaron Kaufman and the short guy should ditch Richard and start there own place. But the fitment of that truck was horribly noticeable.
Seeing all the high dollar crap at SEMA kinda makes me miss the late 80's when I would buy a truck for $750.00, heat up the front and rear coils, put 2" lowering blocks in the back, pay a friend of mine to buff out the paint (even if it was rusty), put on some 215/75-15's up front on 7" van rallys and 275/60-15's on 8" truck rallys... And drive the hell out of it.
I guess you could say I had a trailer trash version of a Delmo-like Patina look back in the day...
I kinda miss that.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:02 PM   #16
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Re: Patina...

Patina became COOL when people like n2billet started building COMPLETE "street rod detailed" trucks,... with every aspect of the truck detailed,.... EXCEPT the paint.
These aren't rat rods.
They are high dollar builds on super straight original paint trucks.
(very hard to come by now)
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Re: Patina...

The one thing about being cool is to lead the charge on something new and different based completely on your own ideas, style and creativity. The other 50000 people who join in afterwards on the same style end up washing out the effect somewhat. I think that is what we are now seeing in the slam and patina group.
That said I always take the time to check out any of the old trucks (even Fords) and try to always give a thumbs up to the owner. Not everyone is creative and sometimes it more important to be involved than to be leading something new.
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Patina became COOL when people like n2billet started building COMPLETE "street rod detailed" trucks,... with every aspect of the truck detailed,.... EXCEPT the paint.
These aren't rat rods.
They are high dollar builds on super straight original paint trucks.
(very hard to come by now)
I drool over this truck. the attention to detail is amazing and I have never seen it in person.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:56 PM   #19
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I drool over this truck. the attention to detail is amazing and I have never seen it in person.
It's even better in person.
If you know these old trucks,.. you will see all the detail and changes that went into building Tiffany.
Making them clean and uncluttered is an art.
Having a plan and vision is way different than just bolting on the latest cool part.
Some get it.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:11 PM   #20
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Who made Patina cool...?
Mother Nature?

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I think they became cool when shiny paint jobs got to where the average income people, like myself, couldn't afford 7-10k in paint.
This has definitely helped push the trend along.

I've also noticed this trend is WAY more popular with trucks than cars. For the most part, people still want shiney Camaros, mustangs, challengers, impalas.

It seems *most* patina cars I see are the oddball cars that aren't worth a lot painted, 4 doors, wagons, models that aren't real popular, etc.

Trucks appear to be the dominating genre with the "patina" fad.
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Patina became COOL when people like n2billet started building COMPLETE "street rod detailed" trucks,... with every aspect of the truck detailed,.... EXCEPT the paint.
These aren't rat rods.
They are high dollar builds on super straight original paint trucks.
(very hard to come by now)
n2billet had a darker (maybe black) 67 shortbox in the garage that was quite awesome as well.
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Re: Patina...

"Mother Nature?"

Well mother nature made the Patina... Someone else had to make it so popular.
But that is hilarious.
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Re: Patina...

Well once I saw the Patina style I felt what a better way to enjoy your truck and not have to worry about someone leaning on it or some kids playing around it. This makes the shows way more relaxed and enjoyable for me. Once the crazy started with us it hasnt stopped, we are now up to 3 different patina C-10's, if various stages.
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I've also noticed this trend is WAY more popular with trucks than cars. For the most part, people still want shiney Camaros, mustangs, challengers, impalas.

It seems *most* patina cars I see are the oddball cars that aren't worth a lot painted, 4 doors, wagons, models that aren't real popular, etc.

Trucks appear to be the dominating genre with the "patina" fad.
Probably because a lot of older trucks still get used for hauling things. This would mean that (1) they're less likely to have been restored in the past, which would also apply to the oddball cars that aren't worth a lot, and (2) if you have bad paint, you won't have to worry about scratching it up if you have to carry a load of bricks or wood.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:21 PM   #25
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Re: Patina...

This topic brings to mind my visits to Oakland Roadster show years ago. All those cars were roped off. A few of them even had security guards. If you wanted to see any details you had to wait for the feature in a magazine because the owners were never around to talk to. It felt like many of them were consigned to the event without representation. It was depressing, as if you were committing a crime if you stared too long.
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