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12-22-2014, 06:17 PM | #1 |
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Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I am going to completely rewire my truck with a new wiring harness and I don't know what to pick.
I can get a Classic Update wiring harness from AAW. I just have a couple questions. Maybe I should ask AAW, but there they are. Is this the whole truck harness? Can I use HEI? Do I have to assemble it? What about internally regulated alternator? I could also buy individual harnesses from M&H or AAW. These harnesses cost around $700 or so when you get the HEI and other features added. Who has used this kit? Did you like it? Thanks, Nate |
12-22-2014, 06:24 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
All of your questions are answered here:
http://www.americanautowire.com/view...evrolet-truck/ Quote:
I have purchased their classic update series for my 67, but it's still in the box. Looks like a great complete kit. Comes with all the connectors, etc.
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12-22-2014, 06:26 PM | #3 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
Ok, now I feel dumb. So I guess the next question is, is there any reason not to go with this harness? Is the only issue the fact that it's not "factory correct"?
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12-22-2014, 06:35 PM | #4 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
It's not factory correct, but it looks pretty dang close.
Don't feel dumb. I've bought a lot of stuff that looked great that sucked, and a lot of people here have helped others steer away from those, or helped find a better alternative. I've also read good reviews on the M&H one as well. I bought my harness based on A LOT of positive reviews on here. Again, my AAW Harness is still in the box, but it looks a lot easier to install than say, a painless kit, that has NO connectors on it.
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12-22-2014, 06:45 PM | #5 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I just bought the AAW classic update kit from Matt's Classic Bowties, they are a supporting member here and have great prices. He has a thread about AAW products in the vendors section.
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12-22-2014, 07:28 PM | #6 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I'm installing one right now. I have an LS engine so the added circuits for VSS, Fuel Pump, Electric fans, PCM power etc. is very useful. All the common connectors are already installed, Ign switch, headlight switch, wiper switch, dimmer, horn relay and the list goes on. It comes with all the different harnesses except the A/C harness. Depending on your turn signal harness you may have to put a new connector on your turn signal harness on your column. All these connectors come with it and the instructions are very clear and easy to understand.
It's a great kit.
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12-22-2014, 07:55 PM | #7 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I used it, it's a great product. I highly recommend it. I recommend going to the AAW site and reviewing the crimping video before you start installing if you go this route.
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12-22-2014, 07:58 PM | #8 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
You can't go wrong with AAW or M and H.
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12-22-2014, 08:09 PM | #9 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I also used the AAW kit for my '68 and it is a very good product. It comes with all the wiring and connectors you will need and more. The instructions will guide you through the installation step by step and are easy to understand. I can recommend it. Plus , you can use the instructions and diagrams for trouble shooting later on down the road !
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12-23-2014, 09:46 AM | #10 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I'm wanting to only replace the rear lights harness tail / brake with a 4 wire trailer hook up included. I've search a few sites but can't seem to run across anything. Any help would be appreciated.
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12-23-2014, 10:10 AM | #11 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
Call American Autowire 1-800-482-9473 they can help you.
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12-23-2014, 10:13 AM | #12 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I just installed a AAW kit and I loved it. It was so simple it made me want to wire another truck. I do recommend while you are waiting for it to come in, is to go ahead and download all the instructions from there website and get to know it and mark out what you won't need and do need, that way there is no guess work. It has plenty of options, so enjoy.
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02-16-2021, 08:43 PM | #13 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
Old thread hope somebody is listening!
Do the wire colors in AAW Classic Update kit match our truck wire colors? THis would be for my 1964 C10
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02-17-2021, 06:33 AM | #14 | |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
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02-17-2021, 11:30 AM | #15 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
Another up vote for AAW or M&H. I've used both, as well as a Painless kit, and they all were great kits.
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02-18-2021, 12:22 AM | #16 | |
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02-18-2021, 03:43 AM | #17 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I have the Classic Update Kit.
If your truck is stock it would be better/easier to purchase the OEM matching harness. To install the Classic Update Kit you will need a special crimping tool that folds the ends of the connectors in like the factory did. They are not the cheap ones at the auto parts stores. The Colors seem to match the factory colors. Typically one end of the harness is finished and you have to to the rest. No it's not that difficult but is sure is time consuming. I would recommend it if you are modify your truck like installing an LS motor our moving the gas tank. Also includes some niceties like a wire to convert your cargo light into a third back up lamp. Yes, wiring for the whole truck in included. I believe it is set up for a HEI. (only difference is no resister wire needed for the HEI) Do I have to assemble it? Yes some assembly is required. Actually quit a bit. What about internally regulated alternator? This I don't know about. I suspect it is customizable but I haven't opened the engine harness yet. Cheers. Rick Last edited by Accelo; 02-18-2021 at 03:49 AM. |
02-18-2021, 01:04 PM | #18 | |
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10-11-2021, 10:23 PM | #19 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
What would you pay to have a shop wire your truck? I just was given a (to me) ridiculous $ amount to have it done $5-7K for a 67 with a crate 350 and efi, power brakes and steering everything else is stock.
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10-12-2021, 07:41 AM | #20 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
That sounds like a "I don't want to do it" price. I've given those out before when the customer wouldn't take no for an answer.
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10-12-2021, 07:46 AM | #21 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
The funny thing is, I talked about wanting to have it done. And was debating between myself and having him do it. And I've sat on this for 2 years. He did my power steering and power disc brake conversion. He contacted me just recently. Asking if I wanted to get it done he had time in his shop. I think I'm politely going to say no thank you. He talked about it being 60 labor hours. I think for me yes but for a rod shop that does this for a living I can see it being half of that.
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10-12-2021, 07:52 AM | #22 |
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Being an experienced electrical mechanic, I would "estimate" between 8 and ten hours to replace the harness's. If they are plug and play. If you have to shorten wires, put on terminal and connectors that would make the time estimate go up.
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10-12-2021, 08:53 AM | #23 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I used the American autowire classic updat kit on my 70 and it was easy to Install. I did buy the crimper tools to help and as well as soldered all crimps to ensure good connections. There is plenty of extra length on all he wires to allow for your own custom routing. I have HEI and an internally regulated single wire alternator. Only thing is they don't support an ammeter connection due to risk of fire so I bought a voltage gauge from a member on the forum and it looks and works great. AAW is a great choice.
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10-12-2021, 09:27 PM | #24 |
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Re: Wiring Harness Options (Classic Update Kit)
I had a great experience with my AAW Classic Update Kit. I installed it myself--it's more intimidating than it is difficult. I am sure I took more than 10 hours to do it, but I bet less than 20. My biggest challenge was cutting the larger firewall hole for the new spade fuse box.
I also bought the AAW crimpers because I wanted to ensure my crimps were right. AAW also gives great email and phone support, which I used a few times. They even sent me some more connectors when I fouled up some by using the wrong crimper size.
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10-14-2021, 10:12 PM | #25 |
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i vote aaw but i didn't buy there chimpers i used normal climps after i kind of folded them over and then solider every one of them the only thing kit does not come with is the wiper switch every wire is labeled every liek6 inches and the instructions are awwesome!!! i hate wiring and this was easy
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