The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Suspension

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-27-2014, 01:01 PM   #1
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Manual paddle valve routing

Trying to finish up the '65, running Dloe's valves. Unsure where to mount them, but I'm more curious as to how everyone is running/routing all the lines inside their cabs to their valves. Just looking to get some cool ideas.

w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2014, 03:28 PM   #2
catch2otwo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SF
Posts: 347
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Also interested in this. Also how is everyone hitting the same ride height everytime? Not too fond of running gauges in my unmolested dash.
catch2otwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2014, 03:43 PM   #3
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Quote:
Originally Posted by catch2otwo View Post
Also interested in this. Also how is everyone hitting the same ride height everytime? Not too fond of running gauges in my unmolested dash.
Probably by gauge/feel.

I want to run 2 gauges, but I'm in the same situation. I'm going to be running NVU 1967 series gauges and any other gauges I put in the dash will look really bad in comparison, so I'm trying to figure out a good mounting location that can be hidden when not in use.

I think I will probably do copper lines with compression fittings inside the cab, then to PTC 3/8 line outside, but still curious as to how people are routing them inside the cab (ie, grommet, bulkheads etc).
w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 01:54 AM   #4
kamikazekyle05
Registered User
 
kamikazekyle05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vernon, Texas
Posts: 331
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Why not route them up where the gas line exits through the cab floor. Thats what i plan on doing
kamikazekyle05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 03:21 AM   #5
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

That's a pretty small hole, and it's behind the seat... Would probably work if you want to mount switches on the side of the seat though. Or unless you want a hideous box laying in your seat.
w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 02:40 PM   #6
NEWFISHER
Registered User
 
NEWFISHER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,303
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

On my 65 I ran them through the drivers side frame and up through the o.e. clutch pedal rod hole wrapped in a 3/4 rubber hose. Then attached the hose to the inner firewall and ran it just above the sterring column where it exits the firewall. Hidden by the firewall mat, you couldnt see them and was able to slide the lines through the hose with some dry silicone spray when I needed to change one. I also ran a dual paddle dual gauge board from Borris and mounted it to the left of the column just under the dash lip. With the door closed you couldnt see it and it was in a comfortable spot.
I have found that making all the air lines the same length helps when airing up and keeping them consistant. On the shorter runs i loop the extra up and zip tie them to themselves hidden out of sight.
__________________
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
NEWFISHER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 07:35 PM   #7
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWFISHER View Post
On my 65 I ran them through the drivers side frame and up through the o.e. clutch pedal rod hole wrapped in a 3/4 rubber hose. Then attached the hose to the inner firewall and ran it just above the sterring column where it exits the firewall. Hidden by the firewall mat, you couldnt see them and was able to slide the lines through the hose with some dry silicone spray when I needed to change one. I also ran a dual paddle dual gauge board from Borris and mounted it to the left of the column just under the dash lip. With the door closed you couldnt see it and it was in a comfortable spot.
I have found that making all the air lines the same length helps when airing up and keeping them consistant. On the shorter runs i loop the extra up and zip tie them to themselves hidden out of sight.
Not a bad idea. I was going to weld up that hole now that the truck is auto.

I'm thinking of doing the interior lines in copper to avoid having to get under the dash to change them. Then have bulkheads on the floor that transition to the PTC underneath.
w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 11:30 PM   #8
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

On my 89 CC dually, my lines are routed along the inside of the driver side frame rail until the gas tank where they then go through the rail to the outside of the frame (between the gas tank & frame rail in a rubber hose).

From there the lines go into the cab under the base of the rear seat. The floor sound deadening has a 'trench' cut out so the lines are comfortably under the carpet.

They come out from under the carpet under the drivers bucket seat. My paddle valves are the basic units Ride Tech offers & are located @ the base of the seat @ the front of the seat tracks. The left side valves are the fronts (L/R) & the right side are the rears (L/R).

Where the lines go into the valves, I have them Tee'd w/1/8" airlines routed back under the carpet to the firewall where they go into the dual needle gauges.

It's all out of sight....
You don't see any airlines.
You don't see the paddle valves.
You only see the gauges if the ashtray is open.

Where the lines go through the floor, I used rubber grommets to protect the lines as well as seal the outside elements from coming in. There's also a rubber grommet where they go through the frame. Where they travel inside of the rail, I have them wrapped in the DEI heat wrap to minimize heat transfer from the exhaust (approx. 4" away @ the closest point).
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2014, 09:54 PM   #9
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

So I spent quite a bit of time researching, and haven't really seen a setup I like, aside from Dino's, but I didn't want them on the side of the seat.

Which gave me the perfect idea for the ashtray that will never be used. Unfortunately the spot welds didn't want to drill out, so I had to cut out the curved framing of the ashtray.

About an hour later I now have a false ashtray, running Dloe's valves. Will have enough room for an angled gauge in the corner. And best part is with the door closed it will look completely factory.

Now I'm just trying to find the perfect small/slim 90 degree hinge.

w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 11:47 AM   #10
catch2otwo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SF
Posts: 347
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Are you going to be running 4 valves or just two? Also where are you going to stuff the gauges? Looks good!
catch2otwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 12:35 PM   #11
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

I'm running 3. Sounds weird, but I was looking to cut costs as this build has already spiraled out of control, and individually controlling each side of the rear is not needed.

I will be able to fit 1 gauge in this ashtray panel, and the tank gauge I will probably put in my gauge cluster.
w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 01:14 PM   #12
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

This is what it looks like so far: Top valves have more space between them than I would like, but do to the exhaust port, I have to leave some room for either fittings, or the little mufflers that Dloe sells.

w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 01:37 PM   #13
catch2otwo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SF
Posts: 347
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Quote:
Originally Posted by w00dst0ck View Post
I'm running 3. Sounds weird, but I was looking to cut costs as this build has already spiraled out of control, and individually controlling each side of the rear is not needed.

I will be able to fit 1 gauge in this ashtray panel, and the tank gauge I will probably put in my gauge cluster.
If you use one valve in the rear, how do you keep the air from transferring from side to side?
catch2otwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 11:14 PM   #14
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Rear doesn't articulate nearly as much in these trucks, and with a majority of the weight in front of the rear wheels I don't think it would be as noticeable.

However, I've decided just to run 4 valves to play it safe. I'll also be re-designing the panel I made a tad.
w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2014, 04:27 PM   #15
w00dst0ck
Registered User
 
w00dst0ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 349
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

Built a new box this morning to accommodate 4 valves. Flat in the center for a dual needle gauge, and angled sides for the valves. Turned out well, stitched a dozen or so small scrap 16 gauge pieces together.

w00dst0ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2014, 05:44 PM   #16
catch2otwo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SF
Posts: 347
Re: Manual paddle valve routing

thats a great idea. very smart angling the panel. Awaiting your final product
catch2otwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com