another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

52napco · 01-13-2015, 07:37 PM

Nice truck but ad is deceiving at best
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ot...m=301486837879

**DaHos** · 01-13-2015, 07:52 PM

Thats just a mess of an add......

.......looks to have some wrong pics mixed in.........

**too much stuff** · 01-13-2015, 08:01 PM

Looks like pics from 2 different trucks. I like the 4x4...

**Joesjunk** · 01-13-2015, 09:04 PM

I saw that about 2 hours ago and noticed the 2wd SPID

**D.PASSMORE** · 01-13-2015, 09:51 PM

It could be a 2WD to 4WD conversion and the owner is shading it with a confusing add. Notice the door jam ID plate picture has been cropped to show no color. Just saying...

teeitup · 01-13-2015, 10:37 PM

good call David, on the cropped pic, very strange

Nitis · 01-14-2015, 12:21 AM

I agree cropped vin plate pic is suspicious. However th K vin matches and obviously something is amiss. I'm thinking the glove box door is from another rig. Shouldn't it have wood grain decal? Or at least be painted brown like the steering column. Maybe it's simply a donor glovebox door.

Irregardless fun to speculate and test everyone's wealth of knowledge that the rest of the world deems useless

lowrollin70gmc · 01-14-2015, 12:22 AM

That's a dealer just outside of Sioux Falls, SD. I know they do quite a bit of buying/selling of old cars along with late models. They should know better: the crop job on the data plate is just weird, as is showing a non-matching SPID plate. And quite a few pictures of a 2wd undercarriage.

If a board member is interested in the truck, I'll be at my parent's place about 4 miles from that dealer this weekend. I could take a look and give insight into what numbers to believe and the actual shape of the body/frame.

**special-K** · 01-14-2015, 10:48 AM

I never saw any 2wd under carriage pictures, but the seller explains the glovebox door is different. If it's a conversion they did a good job with the rivets. Unless...
The picture was taken on the original crapped out cab before switching the Custom/20 body on. Yep, that's what I'm bettin' on. I;m wondering if the K/20 was a Cheyenne or if that stuff was added. The C/20's interior is supposed to be Parchment and it's changed to Saddle Cheyenne (door panels)

**70shortfleet** · 01-14-2015, 11:34 AM

The guy needs a new pair of glasses, his 10 hole wheels are 12 hole wheels

**D.PASSMORE** · 01-14-2015, 12:45 PM

Another idication could be the T-case shifter ring, square instead round. Easier to cut a sqaure hole than a round hole in a solid high hump panel. Just an observation...

Dave K. · 01-14-2015, 03:12 PM

I've never understood the observation that something drives better than new. How can this be and who remembers how they drove when they were new? Anything to spin a sale!

slow-1 · 01-14-2015, 10:22 PM

The guy must have seen this thread cause he fixed the ad.

Look at the note at the end of the ad, explains all the discrepancies.

Nitis · 01-15-2015, 12:10 AM

Missing buckets!

Story at least adds up now. Do you believe

**special-K** · 01-15-2015, 09:15 AM

If we saw a picture of the VIN-plate taken today it would be the K/20 one (shown on old cab) moved onto the C/20 body. It won't be the same rosettes we see now.

I see people pay in the $10k neighborhood for nice C/20 on K/20 swaps. $25k? Ehhh... No

teeitup · 01-15-2015, 09:37 AM

I agree Tim, there was one a couple weeks ago on ebay and was posted on here and its relisted again

BLAZERMAN · 01-15-2015, 11:39 AM

Despite the descrepancies its my dream truck, lose the bed rails, change out the mirror heads to factory and throw on factory steel wheels and caps and I'd be happy the rest of my life! Love the two tone ochre & white and lower moulding only look on a K-20 4x4

Sicklajoie · 01-15-2015, 03:24 PM

That's a really sweet ride. Love that color combo.

*Fitz* · 01-15-2015, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.PASSMORE

It could be a 2WD to 4WD conversion and the owner is shading it with a confusing add. Notice the door jam ID plate picture has been cropped to show no color. Just saying...

Or the seller is LYING! I vote for the latter.

52napco · 01-15-2015, 04:27 PM

In his defense its probably a decent ole truck. Don't think its a $19,000 truck

Longhorn 70 · 01-15-2015, 07:34 PM

I just want the 425 HP 350 that's in it.

Also from his post
"The undercarriage pic's were just posted in error by our photographer in error from another (2WD) truck of ours, he had shot. I posted the correct pic's for this truck now and all is now correct. Sorry for all the confusion...all is correct born 4x4, correct vin#, all badging matches...never converted...correct underside pic's showing."

**special-K** · 01-16-2015, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeitup

I agree Tim, there was one a couple weeks ago on ebay and was posted on here and its relisted again

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLAZERMAN

Despite the descrepancies its my dream truck, lose the bed rails, change out the mirror heads to factory and throw on factory steel wheels and caps and I'd be happy the rest of my life! Love the two tone ochre & white and lower moulding only look on a K-20 4x4

Nothing one of us wouldn't do. I do believe it's a C/20 body swap (read my other posts), which you could say is not a conversion, and the seller chose to deceive rather than be straight about it (in hopes of getting the $25k). It's not a conversion, it's a genuine '72 K/20 and probably a real Cheyenne. It jut has sheetmetal from another truck, with the same body, now. A big block or 4spd C/10 or 20 has the exact same cab as a K/20...just like a fender, tailgate, hood, bumpers...

Once again on Ebay, it's the seller not the truck that's the problem. Same result, though.

**DeadheadNM** · 01-17-2015, 09:25 PM

Even more rare "restored" "1972" 4x4 2wd SWB Super with 3/4t axles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ch...US_Cars_Trucks

"IN FULL DISCLOSURE, THE ITEMS WORTH NOTING INCLUDE:
-THERE ARE A COUPLE CHIPS IN THE PAINT. SEE DETAILED PICTURES.
-BED IS RHINO LINED. A FEW MINOR DINGS IN THE BED FROM PAST USE. SEE DETAILED PICTURES."

Full disclosure?

Nitis · 01-17-2015, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

Even more rare "restored" "1972" 4x4 2wd SWB Super with 3/4t axles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ch...US_Cars_Trucks

"IN FULL DISCLOSURE, THE ITEMS WORTH NOTING INCLUDE:
-THERE ARE A COUPLE CHIPS IN THE PAINT. SEE DETAILED PICTURES.
-BED IS RHINO LINED. A FEW MINOR DINGS IN THE BED FROM PAST USE. SEE DETAILED PICTURES."

Full disclosure?

Where do you start on that one?

2wd vin
not 72 doors
how exactly does teh ac work with no compressor?

**special-K** · 01-18-2015, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitis

Where do you start on that one?

2wd vin
not 72 doors
how exactly does teh ac work with no compressor?

Everything checks out. The title states "C10/C20 4x4" and that it is rare...yep!

I'd never buy a Cheyenne Super from anyone who calls it a Super Cheyenne. Right off the bat, you know the seller doesn't know what's what. what's worse is when the only thing Cheyenne Super on the truck are the fender badges. didn't even do the houndstooth seat cover that so many do. It's a nice truck, but seller fails. Always a shame to see. Isn't it refreshing when you see a nice truck listed accompanied by a thorough, honest, and knowledgeable description?

01-13-2015, 07:37 PM	#1
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Nice truck but ad is deceiving at best http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ot...m=301486837879

01-13-2015, 07:52 PM	#2
DaHos Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Owosso, Michigan Posts: 2,860	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Thats just a mess of an add...... .......looks to have some wrong pics mixed in......... __________________ 1967 C10 SWB Owner - Rustbelt Restorations

01-13-2015, 08:01 PM	#3
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,790	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Looks like pics from 2 different trucks. I like the 4x4... __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

01-13-2015, 09:04 PM	#4
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,709	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay I saw that about 2 hours ago and noticed the 2wd SPID __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

01-13-2015, 09:51 PM	#5
D.PASSMORE One of the First Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: St. Augustine,FL. Posts: 4,059	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay It could be a 2WD to 4WD conversion and the owner is shading it with a confusing add. Notice the door jam ID plate picture has been cropped to show no color. Just saying... __________________ DAVID PASSMORE ST AUGUSTINE ,FL ZIP 32084 '71 SWB K/10 CUSTOM DELUXE (Chili) '72 BLAZER K/5 Muscle Truck (Mule) '72 LWB K/20 CHEYENNE (Blackie)

01-13-2015, 10:37 PM	#6
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,395	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay good call David, on the cropped pic, very strange __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

01-14-2015, 12:21 AM	#7
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay I agree cropped vin plate pic is suspicious. However th K vin matches and obviously something is amiss. I'm thinking the glove box door is from another rig. Shouldn't it have wood grain decal? Or at least be painted brown like the steering column. Maybe it's simply a donor glovebox door. Irregardless fun to speculate and test everyone's wealth of knowledge that the rest of the world deems useless

01-14-2015, 12:22 AM	#8
lowrollin70gmc Too many projects Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fargo, ND land of the flat hills Posts: 1,147	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay That's a dealer just outside of Sioux Falls, SD. I know they do quite a bit of buying/selling of old cars along with late models. They should know better: the crop job on the data plate is just weird, as is showing a non-matching SPID plate. And quite a few pictures of a 2wd undercarriage. If a board member is interested in the truck, I'll be at my parent's place about 4 miles from that dealer this weekend. I could take a look and give insight into what numbers to believe and the actual shape of the body/frame. __________________ Andrew 84 GMC C1500 SWB 6.2 Diesel/700R4/3.42 "Grandpa's odd duck" 70 GMC C1500 LWB My first truck: shaved, bagged, and more: the lowrollin70gmc 68 K20 Suburban 12V Cummins/NV5600/NP205/D60/11.5AAM 3.73s "Dakota Cadillac" 63 Chevy II Nova Coupe 250 I6/T56/4.56s "Economy car" 53 Willys Wagon 350/NV4500/BW4401/HP D44/9inch “Winter Wagon” 30 Model A 16 Focus ST

01-14-2015, 10:48 AM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay I never saw any 2wd under carriage pictures, but the seller explains the glovebox door is different. If it's a conversion they did a good job with the rivets. Unless... The picture was taken on the original crapped out cab before switching the Custom/20 body on. Yep, that's what I'm bettin' on. I;m wondering if the K/20 was a Cheyenne or if that stuff was added. The C/20's interior is supposed to be Parchment and it's changed to Saddle Cheyenne (door panels) __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-14-2015, 11:34 AM	#10
70shortfleet Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: St.Peters, MO Posts: 2,240	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay The guy needs a new pair of glasses, his 10 hole wheels are 12 hole wheels

01-14-2015, 12:45 PM	#11
D.PASSMORE One of the First Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: St. Augustine,FL. Posts: 4,059	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Another idication could be the T-case shifter ring, square instead round. Easier to cut a sqaure hole than a round hole in a solid high hump panel. Just an observation...

01-14-2015, 03:12 PM	#12
Dave K. Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 575	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay I've never understood the observation that something drives better than new. How can this be and who remembers how they drove when they were new? Anything to spin a sale!

01-14-2015, 10:22 PM	#13
slow-1 Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central NC Posts: 830	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay The guy must have seen this thread cause he fixed the ad. Look at the note at the end of the ad, explains all the discrepancies. __________________ 1972 Cheyene C-10 "Ole Green" My Grandfathers truck (early 70's to 1983) My first vehicle (1983) Original 350 (3 rebuilds) 700R4 from Bowtie Overdrives

01-15-2015, 12:10 AM	#14
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Missing buckets! Story at least adds up now. Do you believe

01-15-2015, 09:15 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay If we saw a picture of the VIN-plate taken today it would be the K/20 one (shown on old cab) moved onto the C/20 body. It won't be the same rosettes we see now. I see people pay in the $10k neighborhood for nice C/20 on K/20 swaps. $25k? Ehhh... No __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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01-15-2015, 09:37 AM	#16
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,395	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay I agree Tim, there was one a couple weeks ago on ebay and was posted on here and its relisted again __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

01-15-2015, 11:39 AM	#17
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Despite the descrepancies its my dream truck, lose the bed rails, change out the mirror heads to factory and throw on factory steel wheels and caps and I'd be happy the rest of my life! Love the two tone ochre & white and lower moulding only look on a K-20 4x4 __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

01-15-2015, 03:24 PM	#18
Sicklajoie The Niner Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Broad Brook, CT Posts: 2,500	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay That's a really sweet ride. Love that color combo. __________________ "A good racer is one whose head is in communication with his balls." - Richie Evans 1970 C/20 - 402/TH400/3.54s - 74K miles 2003 GMC Sierra 2500 - Wheatland Yellow Niner Progression Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=697183 Classic Trucks article: https://www.motortrend.com/features/...et-c20-driven/

01-15-2015, 04:27 PM	#20
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay In his defense its probably a decent ole truck. Don't think its a $19,000 truck

01-15-2015, 07:34 PM	#21
Longhorn 70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Chandler AZ Posts: 1,149	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay I just want the 425 HP 350 that's in it. Also from his post "The undercarriage pic's were just posted in error by our photographer in error from another (2WD) truck of ours, he had shot. I posted the correct pic's for this truck now and all is now correct. Sorry for all the confusion...all is correct born 4x4, correct vin#, all badging matches...never converted...correct underside pic's showing." __________________ 1970 Longhorn, Front Disc, 350/4 bolt, 882 heads, HEI, Edelbrock, 700R4, HO-52/4.11. 1996 Corvette, Collector Roadster, LT4, 396, 450RWHP, 6sp, 4.11/Dana44/posi 5 point roll bar And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. Gal 6:9

01-17-2015, 09:25 PM	#23
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,449	Re: another rare 4x4 2wd K20 on epay Even more rare "restored" "1972" 4x4 2wd SWB Super with 3/4t axles: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ch...US_Cars_Trucks "IN FULL DISCLOSURE, THE ITEMS WORTH NOTING INCLUDE: -THERE ARE A COUPLE CHIPS IN THE PAINT. SEE DETAILED PICTURES. -BED IS RHINO LINED. A FEW MINOR DINGS IN THE BED FROM PAST USE. SEE DETAILED PICTURES." Full disclosure? __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

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