Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

csb#356 · 01-19-2015, 12:26 AM

Im having trouble finding tires for my 16.5s on my 1979 K30. I've heard 17s off of a newish dodge will fit. I tried bolting on a 16" off of a late 90s chevy and the center hole wasn't big enough to fit onto the hub. I was wondering what kinds of wheels you guys have used on your one tons. I appreciate any and all the suggestions. Post up some pics if you've got em. Thanks a bunch

**argonaut** · 01-19-2015, 02:54 AM

I'm pretty sure stock 16x6.5" steelies from 80s pickups will fit no problem...

andrewmp6 · 01-19-2015, 03:11 AM

h2 rims fit and look good.

**special-K** · 01-19-2015, 08:12 AM

Any hubcap-type 8-lug 16" truck wheel will work, as long as it isn't a newer Ford (about '96-up) Metric/170mm wheel. The Ford wheels from before that change are your best bet. Those are 1" wider than the others at 7" which is only 1/2" wider than your factory 16.5s. Those wheels will have "Accuride" stamped into them

CrewCab59 · 01-19-2015, 09:15 AM

They still make about 10 different tires in 16.5 without going into a full mud tire.

Thanks

csb#356 · 01-19-2015, 11:04 AM

Thanks for the replies guys. I was under the impression that a 16" would not fit over the calipers in the front, They're pretty darn big compared to the 3/4 ton. I've only tried to put on the one 16" chevy wheel and like i said the center hole wasn't big enough, and it looked pretty close to the brakes. I'll do some searching and see if i can find a another 16" wheel to try. Anybody used one with success with the bigger front brakes? I'd rather go away from 16.5 tires because it just seems simpler to be able to go down to the local tire store and buy tires when i need them, plus they're pretty expensive to have them order them.

**special-K** · 01-20-2015, 09:49 AM

16" could come on all 3/4 tons. 16.5s became an option around 67/68. Heck, you can mount 15" wheels. You only have to grind along the casting seem a little bit for clearance

b454rat · 01-20-2015, 03:47 PM

Nothing changed on a Dana 60 over the years, 16s were standard in the 80s and the K30 came with them. Need to find and 80s 3/4 or 1 ton for 16s. Why not buy new wheels? Or go on craigslist. I picked up a set of 16x10 8 lugs for $200.

RedRoad · 01-21-2015, 02:58 PM

None of the 8 stock 3/4 ton 16 in rims would fit over the front hub on my 72 K20 like the OP stated, no problem in the rear.

The guy at the tire shop said they would just file the stamping high spots down a bit and they would go on with no trouble. Anyone know if these are hub centric or lug centric rims?

csb#356 · 01-21-2015, 04:22 PM

Ok thanks guys. I will start looking at 16s also. I just havent found a set yet that would fit over the hubs but good to know they will fit over the brakes. I'd rather have 16s anyway for cheaper tires. The only 16s i did try would have taken way to much "clearancing" out of the center hole of the wheel.

csb#356 · 01-21-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRoad

None of the 8 stock 3/4 ton 16 in rims would fit over the front hub on my 72 K20 like the OP stated, no problem in the rear.

The guy at the tire shop said they would just file the stamping high spots down a bit and they would go on with no trouble. Anyone know if these are hub centric or lug centric rims?

They pilot on the lug nuts so the center shouldn't matter much

csb#356 · 01-21-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by b454rat

Nothing changed on a Dana 60 over the years, 16s were standard in the 80s and the K30 came with them. Need to find and 80s 3/4 or 1 ton for 16s. Why not buy new wheels? Or go on craigslist. I picked up a set of 16x10 8 lugs for $200.

I'll definately be buying new wheels. I just didnt't know what i should be looking at buying on craigslist. I didnt know 16s were an option on the one tons

b454rat · 01-21-2015, 06:35 PM

16s were stock on 3/4 and 1 tons in the 80s.

You have something going on, if 16s wouldn't fit over the hub. They are the same as any other big hub 44. If they fit a 60 then should fit a 44. Sure they were GM wheels?

csb#356 · 01-21-2015, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b454rat

16s were stock on 3/4 and 1 tons in the 80s.

You have something going on, if 16s wouldn't fit over the hub. They are the same as any other big hub 44. If they fit a 60 then should fit a 44. Sure they were GM wheels?

They were gm wheels but they were from the late 90s. It has been awhile since i tried it and ive forgotten what the center hole measurement was.

Redroad- any chance you know the measurement of the OD of your hubs?

b454rat · 01-22-2015, 08:12 PM

88-up IFS normally won't fit over hubs...

RedRoad · 01-22-2015, 08:21 PM

Dont have the measurement of the hubs but they are the early 1st series "big hub" type.

All the rims I have are early to mid 90's manufacture

**special-K** · 01-23-2015, 12:01 AM

16s came on 70s/80s 3/4t as well as 1t (C, K, G & P models). Mid-90s GM wheels (IFS) won't fit. Those are steel but not "Steelies". They are "Styled Steel Wheels". I tried one on a '72 K/20, no go. I just needed to mount them on a truck that was sitting so I could borrow it's wheels for another truck. All 8-lug steelies will fit on a GM, from my experience. Ford has a larger hub, so GM wheels won't fit those. You don't want IFS wheels on a solid axle truck. The IFS wheels are made with more like a FWD offset than a RWD and will be too tucked in. I've seen them on a '79 K20 around town some years ago. I believe even the small hubs have the same diameter lip the wheel fits over. Must have machined the hubs or wheels...or that lip is smaller.

WhiteWhale · 01-23-2015, 01:18 AM

I am running 1996 and 2000 steel rims on my K20 burb. I did have to file a small amount of the raised stamping area like mentioned above to get them to fit the front hubs, no mods needed for the rear hubs (HO52)

**argonaut** · 01-23-2015, 03:48 AM

WhiteWhale, What size tires are those BFG MTs on your 72 Burb?

WhiteWhale · 01-23-2015, 04:12 AM

LT255/85R16

Getting harder to find now, I think they are going to discontinue them.

They measure just over 32 inches installed on the stock rims.

The burb is running its stock suspension which is sagging a bit, hopefully getting a 2.5 TC kit soon.

jjzepplin · 01-23-2015, 08:44 AM

I have 1989 d60 up front and have run 2002 aluminum Chevy wheels that were 16" no problem. Bolted right up no filing. Got them on CL right now cuz I went back to my bullet holes that came off a Furd?

**special-K** · 01-23-2015, 09:49 AM

I was wrong about the late 8-lug wheels. Looks good. I always see people here saying they tuck in too much. I guess that's just 6-lug. Those have a more obvious inset.

**57NAPCO** · 01-23-2015, 08:33 PM

I was just in south San Antonio this afternoon and I swung into a truck salvage yard. Walked all around looking for accuride rims, only found 2 of em so I passed. He wanted 25 bucks a piece

csb#356 · 01-24-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jjzepplin

I have 1989 d60 up front and have run 2002 aluminum Chevy wheels that were 16" no problem. Bolted right up no filing. Got them on CL right now cuz I went back to my bullet holes that came off a Furd?

Thanks for the info. Thats more like what im looking for. I'm finding a lot of good sets of wheels off of newer trucks for really cheap on craigslist, I guess everybody is buying 20s or something for their 3/4 and 1 tons

I haven't been finding much for older wheels though. Thanks for the info and pics guys.

**Joesjunk** · 02-01-2015, 12:57 AM

I have an 87 1 ton 4x4 that's bone stock, the factory wheels are 16 X 6.5". They are the same wheels on the K/20's also.

01-19-2015, 12:26 AM	#1
csb#356 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pinehurst, Idaho Posts: 311	Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" Im having trouble finding tires for my 16.5s on my 1979 K30. I've heard 17s off of a newish dodge will fit. I tried bolting on a 16" off of a late 90s chevy and the center hole wasn't big enough to fit onto the hub. I was wondering what kinds of wheels you guys have used on your one tons. I appreciate any and all the suggestions. Post up some pics if you've got em. Thanks a bunch

01-19-2015, 02:54 AM	#2
argonaut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,813	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" I'm pretty sure stock 16x6.5" steelies from 80s pickups will fit no problem... __________________ Jason M. @argonaut62 1972 K5 Blazer CST, Turquoise 1966 K20 Short Fleet Pickup, Big Ugly 1964 C10 Short Fleet, Gertrude 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera 1996 Ford Bronco XLT 1980 Jeep Wagoneer 2008 Honda CBR1000RR 2005 Honda RC51 1981 Honda CB750C No dis-assemble Johnny Five! No dis-assemble!

01-19-2015, 08:12 AM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" Any hubcap-type 8-lug 16" truck wheel will work, as long as it isn't a newer Ford (about '96-up) Metric/170mm wheel. The Ford wheels from before that change are your best bet. Those are 1" wider than the others at 7" which is only 1/2" wider than your factory 16.5s. Those wheels will have "Accuride" stamped into them __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-19-2015, 09:15 AM	#5
CrewCab59 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 1,185	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" They still make about 10 different tires in 16.5 without going into a full mud tire. Thanks __________________ 1972 Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 burb 1971 GMC SWB CST 4x4 1972 GMC k20 4x4 (X- brush truck ) 1971 Chevy CST Blazer 4x4 1971 Chevy C/10 1970 Cab Chassis C30 157" 1971 Cab Chassis Custom 30 Deluxe 157" 292/4spd ( Napco Replica ) 1988 Chevy V30 4x4 wrecker challenger 4812

01-19-2015, 11:04 AM	#6
csb#356 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pinehurst, Idaho Posts: 311	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" Thanks for the replies guys. I was under the impression that a 16" would not fit over the calipers in the front, They're pretty darn big compared to the 3/4 ton. I've only tried to put on the one 16" chevy wheel and like i said the center hole wasn't big enough, and it looked pretty close to the brakes. I'll do some searching and see if i can find a another 16" wheel to try. Anybody used one with success with the bigger front brakes? I'd rather go away from 16.5 tires because it just seems simpler to be able to go down to the local tire store and buy tires when i need them, plus they're pretty expensive to have them order them.

01-19-2015, 03:11 AM	#3
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" h2 rims fit and look good.

01-20-2015, 09:49 AM	#7
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" 16" could come on all 3/4 tons. 16.5s became an option around 67/68. Heck, you can mount 15" wheels. You only have to grind along the casting seem a little bit for clearance __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-20-2015, 03:47 PM	#8
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,454	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" Nothing changed on a Dana 60 over the years, 16s were standard in the 80s and the K30 came with them. Need to find and 80s 3/4 or 1 ton for 16s. Why not buy new wheels? Or go on craigslist. I picked up a set of 16x10 8 lugs for $200. __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 6” lift 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 4" SAS

01-21-2015, 02:58 PM	#9
RedRoad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Los Angeles California Posts: 927	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" None of the 8 stock 3/4 ton 16 in rims would fit over the front hub on my 72 K20 like the OP stated, no problem in the rear. The guy at the tire shop said they would just file the stamping high spots down a bit and they would go on with no trouble. Anyone know if these are hub centric or lug centric rims?

01-21-2015, 04:22 PM	#10
csb#356 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pinehurst, Idaho Posts: 311	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" Ok thanks guys. I will start looking at 16s also. I just havent found a set yet that would fit over the hubs but good to know they will fit over the brakes. I'd rather have 16s anyway for cheaper tires. The only 16s i did try would have taken way to much "clearancing" out of the center hole of the wheel.

01-21-2015, 06:35 PM	#13
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,454	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" 16s were stock on 3/4 and 1 tons in the 80s. You have something going on, if 16s wouldn't fit over the hub. They are the same as any other big hub 44. If they fit a 60 then should fit a 44. Sure they were GM wheels? __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 6” lift 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 4" SAS

01-22-2015, 08:12 PM	#15
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,454	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" 88-up IFS normally won't fit over hubs... __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 6” lift 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 4" SAS

01-22-2015, 08:21 PM	#16
RedRoad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Los Angeles California Posts: 927	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" Dont have the measurement of the hubs but they are the early 1st series "big hub" type. All the rims I have are early to mid 90's manufacture

01-23-2015, 12:01 AM	#17
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" 16s came on 70s/80s 3/4t as well as 1t (C, K, G & P models). Mid-90s GM wheels (IFS) won't fit. Those are steel but not "Steelies". They are "Styled Steel Wheels". I tried one on a '72 K/20, no go. I just needed to mount them on a truck that was sitting so I could borrow it's wheels for another truck. All 8-lug steelies will fit on a GM, from my experience. Ford has a larger hub, so GM wheels won't fit those. You don't want IFS wheels on a solid axle truck. The IFS wheels are made with more like a FWD offset than a RWD and will be too tucked in. I've seen them on a '79 K20 around town some years ago. I believe even the small hubs have the same diameter lip the wheel fits over. Must have machined the hubs or wheels...or that lip is smaller. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 01-23-2015 at 12:23 AM.

01-23-2015, 01:18 AM	#18
WhiteWhale Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Southern California Posts: 200	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" I am running 1996 and 2000 steel rims on my K20 burb. I did have to file a small amount of the raised stamping area like mentioned above to get them to fit the front hubs, no mods needed for the rear hubs (HO52)



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01-23-2015, 03:48 AM	#19
argonaut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,813	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" WhiteWhale, What size tires are those BFG MTs on your 72 Burb? __________________ Jason M. @argonaut62 1972 K5 Blazer CST, Turquoise 1966 K20 Short Fleet Pickup, Big Ugly 1964 C10 Short Fleet, Gertrude 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera 1996 Ford Bronco XLT 1980 Jeep Wagoneer 2008 Honda CBR1000RR 2005 Honda RC51 1981 Honda CB750C No dis-assemble Johnny Five! No dis-assemble!

01-23-2015, 04:12 AM	#20
WhiteWhale Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Southern California Posts: 200	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" LT255/85R16 Getting harder to find now, I think they are going to discontinue them. They measure just over 32 inches installed on the stock rims. The burb is running its stock suspension which is sagging a bit, hopefully getting a 2.5 TC kit soon.

01-23-2015, 08:44 AM	#21
jjzepplin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ruskin Florida Posts: 4,546	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" I have 1989 d60 up front and have run 2002 aluminum Chevy wheels that were 16" no problem. Bolted right up no filing. Got them on CL right now cuz I went back to my bullet holes that came off a Furd? __________________ 70 swb 4x4 406sbc 700r4 203/205 d60/14blt locker yadda yadda http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...88#post6935688 Yeller 72 Blazer 2wd conversion project "No Daggum Money" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550804 LS1-T56 3.73 LSD super budget build Blanco-2014 Sierra SWB https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=810350

01-23-2015, 09:49 AM	#22
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" I was wrong about the late 8-lug wheels. Looks good. I always see people here saying they tuck in too much. I guess that's just 6-lug. Those have a more obvious inset. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-23-2015, 08:33 PM	#23
57NAPCO F’B’D guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas/Maine Posts: 2,213	Re: Stock wheel alternatives for a 16.5" I was just in south San Antonio this afternoon and I swung into a truck salvage yard. Walked all around looking for accuride rims, only found 2 of em so I passed. He wanted 25 bucks a piece

02-01-2015, 12:57 AM	#25
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