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dubie · 08-26-2003, 03:56 PM

What year of van is the best donor for a tilt column if I want to keep the ignition switch on the dash?

**1970cstblazer** · 08-26-2003, 05:54 PM

1971-1977 Vans have the proper column.

GMC69 · 08-26-2003, 07:13 PM

Hey Dubie I think you remember this thread from a wekk or 2 ago.
How did you spend your day?

I got that coloumn from a 78 van.

I have yet to install it.

JimKshortstep4x4 · 08-26-2003, 07:56 PM

Vans up thrpugh 81 will have the tilts. I have seen them on up to 83 but not sure if they were original. Also, don't forget the motorhomes, they were in some up to 88.

Jim

Longhorn Man · 08-26-2003, 11:45 PM

The older ones will have the U shaped plug, but they will have the real big shifter arm.
If you ever see one with a good pointer, grab the pointer if you need it or not. Pretty hard to find and if not mistaken, not in production anymore.

*Gee_Emm* · 08-26-2003, 11:56 PM

How close do these look to truck tilts? How much conversion work is invloved?

Longhorn Man · 08-27-2003, 12:15 AM

From in the cab, they look 99.9% truck tilt. Under the hood, it still takes a good eye.
For instalation, the neutral safety switch needs to be moved down about 6 to 8 inches further or just deleted, a plug harness adapter may or may not be needed depending on year of column. Under the hood you need to remove the intermediate shaft and colapse it a little and then it'll all bolt right in.

cheyenne10 · 08-27-2003, 12:58 AM

Longhornmail, If I'm not mistaken aren't the pointers readily available aftermarket for $6-10?

JimKshortstep4x4 · 08-27-2003, 06:40 AM

I bought a couple of them from Tim Christian recently so I think they are still available.

Jim

GMC69 · 08-27-2003, 08:25 AM

Is there somewhere online I can get a wiring diagram of the van tilt and our columns, since I am going to be doing the conversion shortly.

I was able to take it out of the van at the wrecking yard so I cut the wires above the plug ( I have both sides) that way I can just move wires into the proper place.

JimKshortstep4x4 · 08-27-2003, 11:00 AM

If you look at the wires you will find that the color coding of the Vans match the trucks. The only difference is the indicator light wire which is gray on the Vans and the truck you are installing the tilt on has a fiber optics for the indicator.

The minor issue is moving the neutral safety switch as the Vans are in a bad location.

Adapters are available for the Van plug to the truck.

Jim

70c10 · 08-27-2003, 11:40 AM

Did any van tilts come without the column shifter?. My truck has a B&M shifter on the floor now.

dubie · 08-27-2003, 11:42 AM

That is what I want as well. I am taking the 3 speed column shift and relocating it to the floor. So I want a tilt, but one without an auto shift

08-26-2003, 03:56 PM	#1
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,853	tilt column What year of van is the best donor for a tilt column if I want to keep the ignition switch on the dash? __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

08-26-2003, 07:13 PM	#3
GMC69 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sudbury, Ontario, Canada Posts: 734	Hey Dubie I think you remember this thread from a wekk or 2 ago. How did you spend your day? I got that coloumn from a 78 van. I have yet to install it. __________________ Mike Email: Click here to email me -- 2019 Silvedrado 4x4 1970 Chevy 3/4 ton, 396BB, on air bags

08-27-2003, 12:58 AM	#8
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	tilt pointer Longhornmail, If I'm not mistaken aren't the pointers readily available aftermarket for $6-10? __________________ Bob

08-27-2003, 08:25 AM	#10
GMC69 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sudbury, Ontario, Canada Posts: 734	Is there somewhere online I can get a wiring diagram of the van tilt and our columns, since I am going to be doing the conversion shortly. I was able to take it out of the van at the wrecking yard so I cut the wires above the plug ( I have both sides) that way I can just move wires into the proper place. __________________ Mike Email: Click here to email me -- 2019 Silvedrado 4x4 1970 Chevy 3/4 ton, 396BB, on air bags

08-27-2003, 11:40 AM	#12
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Did any van tilts come without the column shifter?. My truck has a B&M shifter on the floor now. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

08-26-2003, 05:54 PM	#2
1970cstblazer All stock and staying that way Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elkland, PA Posts: 1,858	1971-1977 Vans have the proper column.

08-26-2003, 07:56 PM	#4
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Vans up thrpugh 81 will have the tilts. I have seen them on up to 83 but not sure if they were original. Also, don't forget the motorhomes, they were in some up to 88. Jim

08-26-2003, 11:45 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	The older ones will have the U shaped plug, but they will have the real big shifter arm. If you ever see one with a good pointer, grab the pointer if you need it or not. Pretty hard to find and if not mistaken, not in production anymore.

08-26-2003, 11:56 PM	#6
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 3,991	How close do these look to truck tilts? How much conversion work is invloved?

08-27-2003, 12:15 AM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	From in the cab, they look 99.9% truck tilt. Under the hood, it still takes a good eye. For instalation, the neutral safety switch needs to be moved down about 6 to 8 inches further or just deleted, a plug harness adapter may or may not be needed depending on year of column. Under the hood you need to remove the intermediate shaft and colapse it a little and then it'll all bolt right in.

08-27-2003, 06:40 AM	#9
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	I bought a couple of them from Tim Christian recently so I think they are still available. Jim

08-27-2003, 11:00 AM	#11
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	If you look at the wires you will find that the color coding of the Vans match the trucks. The only difference is the indicator light wire which is gray on the Vans and the truck you are installing the tilt on has a fiber optics for the indicator. The minor issue is moving the neutral safety switch as the Vans are in a bad location. Adapters are available for the Van plug to the truck. Jim

08-27-2003, 11:42 AM	#13
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,853	That is what I want as well. I am taking the 3 speed column shift and relocating it to the floor. So I want a tilt, but one without an auto shift __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795



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