Help with some engine codes?

[67chevy_hotrod]

So I am looking for a year correct 327 to go in my pickup. I found an engine and these are the numbers
TII07HC on the deck
3903352 on the back of the block
Thanks folks..

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by 67chevy_hotrod

So I am looking for a year correct 327 to go in my pickup. I found an engine and these are the numbers
TII07HC on the deck
3903352 on the back of the block
Thanks folks..

Casting # for 67 327.
http://webpages.charter.net/darrell1...g_numbers.html

OK I'm not so good at serial numbers but I'm getting:

T for Tonawanda plant, 11 for November, 07 for day of the month, and HC for 327 V8.
http://www.nastyz28.com/chevy-engine-code-stampings.php
http://www.nastyz28.com/gm-chevy-cod...s-suffix-5.php

[bruceman1968]

3903352 comes back as 1967,327.
HC in 1967 comes back as a 327, 275hp, 4bbl, originally mated to a powerglide trans, in a Impala .
If you want to triple check it, get the date code off the block. It's in the same place as the casting number only on the other side of the block.


Mechanicalman, you nailed it nice work!

[67chevy_hotrod]

Thanks guys
now the guy wont reply and this is the motor i need

[67 cst swb]

I can relate to how you feel.
I have been looking for the correct motor for quite awhile.

[67chevy_hotrod]

Okay so now i got a differerent block. its a small journal 2 bolt with a casting code of 3782870 i went on nasty z28 adn it came up as a 62-65 327 with 375 hp! cool so now i am assuming that its a corvette motor but i cant decipher the codes on the deck it appears to be 5k110514 BUT the 1's are upside down? also the 0 might be a u i will try to post a picture here in a minute

[67chevy_hotrod]

This is that 327

[bruceman1968]

Yes that's a 327. 3782870 comes back as a 327. It's a 65 and it has a partical vin, so that's a clue that it's 300 hp or more, but you need the engine ID number located to the right of 5K110514 to narrow it down even more. It starts with F, then 4 numbers, then 2 letters. It's the 2 letters at the end that we need to narrow down the application.
5K110514
5 = 1965
K = Kansas City
110514 = sequence number

[67 cst swb]

I bet there is a person out there with a 65 Corvette with VIN number ending in 110514 that might be looking for that block. You never know.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 67 cst swb

I bet there is a person out there with a 65 Corvette with VIN number ending in 110514 that might be looking for that block. You never know.

Not from Kansas City.

Corvettes were only built in St Louis during that timeframe.

K

[bruceman1968]

Keith, How do you know it's a corvette motor?

[bruceman1968]

Originally Posted by 67 cst swb

I bet there is a person out there with a 65 Corvette with VIN number ending in 110514 that might be looking for that block. You never know.

That's not a corvette motor. Corvettes were all built at the same plant, so plant codes were not included in the partial vin. 65 corvette motors only had a sequence number stamped on them.(and the engine ID number)The motor above is from a passenger car/chevelle or El Camino built at Kanas City in 1965.

[67 cst swb]

Originally Posted by 67chevy_hotrod

...i am assuming that its a corvette motor but i cant decipher the codes on the deck it appears to be 5k110514

I did not know that about the sequence numbers. I learn something almost everyday on this board.

[bruceman1968]

Originally Posted by 67 cst swb

I did not know that about the sequence numbers. I learn something almost everyday on this board.

Just to be clear, the sequence number info is only good through 67 on vettes.

[SS Tim]

So what actually is the point here?

To find any 67 model year 327 engine cast and assembled in 66-67.
To find a correct 67 C10 327 regardless of assembly date.
To find the correct assembly coded 327 to match a missing original 327 engine with a documented assembly code.

[67chevy_hotrod]

just to help me, who is no good at deciphering engines on my endeavor of finding a 1967 327 hopefully out of a truck but doesn't need to be. And I got the rest of that code off of that 327 I found..

[67chevy_hotrod]

it appears as though it says F09I6EB

[bruceman1968]

F = Flint
09 = September
I6 = 16 = 16th of September
EB in 1965 = Chevelle, 327cid, 300 hp, manual trans, 4bbl carter, RPO L-74

[67chevy_hotrod]

so this motor has no crank in it and i found a small journal 327 steel crank thats been turned 10/10 the guy said.. he wants 75 for the crank what are your guys's thoughts on that?

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by bruceman1968

Keith, How do you know it's a corvette motor?

Aren't they all?

[bruceman1968]

OMG that's funny. You got me laughing out loud on that one. Yes, they all are. Too funny.

[bruceman1968]

67Chevy_hotrod, This motor is a 1965. Aren't you looking for a 1967? If you go with the 1965, it's going to need a complete rebuild right? If so, that's going to get a little pricey. Why not hold out for the 1967, or for the money you could just drop a crate in there, and come out a grand or so ahead. If you really want a 1967, keep looking, they're out there.
If you continue your search for a 1967 block, try to get all the block info before you post it up. I will keep this thread marked so I'll see your questions as soon as you ask. Here is a breakdown of the numbers on a 1967 block.
There are 3 numbers that you will want to get. Sometimes you can get a definitive answer from just one number. Sometimes it takes two numbers to get a definitive answer and sometimes it takes all three. The partial vin is the fourth set of numbers, but partial VINs aren't found on truck motors till the mid seventies. So a 1967 truck motor won't have a partial vin on it. The three numbers you should be most interested in are:
1. The casting number, You already know about this one.
2. The engine ID number, F0916EB This number consist of 3 separate codes. The first letter is the engine assembly plant code. Your 1967, 327 will be either a F or V.
The next 4 numbers are the date of assembly code. It does not include the year, just the month and day of assembly. (I was often used as a 1) 09=September, 16=16th day of Sept.
The last two letters are the application code. EB in this example. This code is the most useful, It will tell you the engine size, horsepower, trans type, carb type, vehicle type and smog equipment, if applicable. Application codes were reused over several years, so the block date code is often needed to decode it correctly. In 1967 application codes were two digits. The engine assembly plant code+the assembly date code+the application code make up the Engine ID number. This number is stamped not cast.
3.The block date code. The block date code is cast into the block(opposite side from the casting number) and should precede the assembly code by at least 1 day. I have found 2 to 4 days to be the norm, but as long as the block date code precedes the assembly date code, your good to go. The block date code will be in this format C047(on a 1967 block). The C is the month(March) the 04 is the day(4th) and the 7 is the year(1967). Some later blocks used two digits for the year, but you can usually determine a single digit year from the range on the casting number.
With this info you should be able to decode any block you come across. You can use the links in post #2 to decode the numbers you find. The pic in post #3 will show you the locations of the numbers. You can always post your numbers here for a double check.
Mechanicalman is better than me, to ask about the small journal. He is a master mechanic and can give you much better advice on the subject of rebuilding, and small journal vs. large journal than I can.
Hope this helps if you decide to continue your search.
Bruce