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67cst · 08-30-2003, 04:38 AM

hey guys, sorta pissed off here, my beater might be dead, i was dropping a buddy off tonight and went to back out of his driveway and no reverse, the tranny began to slip about 6 months ago and was progessivly getting worse, then tonight no reverse, 1,2,D work fine then i go to N and its still in gear, then i go to reverse on the indicator and it is in neutral, then park works fine, but its like reverse is missing, do you think my tranny is coooked or is it just linkage or somethin easy to fix? this sucks cause my truck isnt quiet done yet and this was gunna be my winter beater...anyone with knoweldge of these piece of chit cars please let me know what you think

thanks, derek

ChevLoRay · 08-30-2003, 08:52 AM

No, I don't know anything about them. But, it could be a Peugeot, Mitsubishi or even a Renault transmission. Chrysler was recovering from massively poor financials, and they had deals going on with other manufacturers.

My experience with Mitsu, is not favorable. Chrysler gearboxes, i.e., automatics in FWD, isn't any better. Therefore, I only drive my Chevy, and Toyotas.

Good luck.

67cst · 08-30-2003, 01:22 PM

ttt---anyone?

oldsub86 · 08-30-2003, 01:53 PM

How is the fluid? Full? Really dirty and smells burned?

jef5150 · 08-30-2003, 02:16 PM

what model car????

67cst · 08-30-2003, 04:59 PM

fluid is good, its an 85 plymouth reliant

jef5150 · 08-30-2003, 05:06 PM

sounds like this may be your problem,,,,,,,http://www.usatransdoctor.com/Domest...SWERS.htm#A670,,,,,,its at the bottom of the page,,,look for a404/a413/a470/a670,,,,,,,jeff

Hooter · 08-30-2003, 05:15 PM

man derek you sure have been given the s;hitty end of the stick lately, i hope things start getting better for ya

67cst · 08-30-2003, 05:29 PM

Hoooter, thanks...yeah i sorta have been but ive decided to use my money i had stashed for paint and im going to by a 67-72 truck 2wd or 4wd to drive till next spring...just a beater that runs good is all i need, i dont care what teh cancer is like....as a matter of fact im going to look at a 68 chevy long step tomorrow, the add says 350, 4spd, duel exhaust, slotted mags, he wants 18 hun...so hopefully i can scoop that, why not eh...then ill just part it out when my 67 is ready to rock and roll

Locutus · 08-30-2003, 08:36 PM

I have been told if you have foward gears and no reverse it is usually a filter. If you have reverse and no foward its toast.

I am not a tranny guru and I am just passing on what I have heard. If your filter is not to difficult to replace it might be a inexpensive thing to try first.

Mike

67cst · 08-30-2003, 08:50 PM

thanks for the idea locutus

71LowBow · 08-30-2003, 08:55 PM

the perfect solution to your problem is a can of gas and a lighter

pickup6772 · 08-30-2003, 10:20 PM

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, AND JUNK THE CAR. THOSE K-CAR TRANNYS ARE SH!#! ONCE THEY GO, YOU USUALLY HAVE TO REPLACE THE WHOLE TRANSMISSION BECAUSE THE GUTS TEAR UP THE CASING, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO REPAIR THEM. MY BROTHER WHO WORKS FOR A DODGE DEALERSHIP IS LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER, AND LAUGHING HIS A@@ OFF!! HE CAN'T BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE K-CARS HAS LASTED THIS LONG. SORRY TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT SOMETIMES THE TRUTH HURTS.

67cst · 08-30-2003, 10:22 PM

yeah no sweat, the drive gear works..i want someone to steal it, ill leave the keys in it if someone makes it dissapear

Longhorn Man · 08-30-2003, 10:59 PM

We got lucky with our K car back in the day. It was the wife's first car and we got it for a song. It was actually a pretty clean car too.
Anyhow, do yourself a favor and do the fluid and filter thing first. No more than 20 bucks and you'll probably be back on the road and spinning out in the snow (in reverse of course).
Toss a bottle or two of tranny treatment in there too. It's not like it'll do any damage to it.
While I do love having a beater truck for a daily driver, it can really test your paitents. Mine thrives on neglect, but it is starting to give me trouble on things, and nothing sucks worsr than staying up late, laying in the driveway in the rain trying to thrash to rip a part off the project that your daily driver is needing...just to get to work in the morning.

67cst · 08-30-2003, 11:23 PM

u think a filter would do it? hmmm

Longhorn Man · 08-31-2003, 12:34 PM

It worked on ours. Exact same description. No reverse, plenty of forward.
However, in all reality, the tranny is on its last leg and this may not fix it. But it is cheaper than replacing the car, and buying a truck to just get through the winter...kinda sounds like the more expensive way out of the situation. At least you already know the little quirks on your beater right now.
Kinda seems like backwards advice, but I say keep the little sh!it box for a few more months and try this.

67cst · 08-31-2003, 01:16 PM

hmmmm changing the filter would suck....why dont tranny pans have plugs....

Longhorn Man · 08-31-2003, 01:40 PM

LOL! The best theory I have heard as to why most auto trannys have no drain plug is becouse most people would not drop the pan after draining it to replace the filter.
That is one thing i love about the Saturns. I don't know about the new ones, but i remember they had an auto tranny with a 50,000 mile spin on filter for easy serviceing.
Too bad there cars are so fugly and booring huh?

casey · 08-31-2003, 10:16 PM

my truck has a drain plug in the pan, doesn't look like an add on plug, the pan is shaped to accommodate the plug, Hey longhornmail, I was changing oil in my 1991 ford 5 spd, and when I took the plug out, it was magnetic, covered in small filings, but it also looked like there was this thick grease on the plug, is there a special magnetic gook you put on the plug to help the plug collect filings?

67cst sorry to weize on your thread

Longhorn Man · 08-31-2003, 10:59 PM

A hand full of earlier automatic transmissions did in fact have a stock drain plug. If you ever get your hands on one, keep it. If not for you, then sell them on here or even E-bay. People will give an eyetooth to not have to take an ATF bath every couple years.
Most Standards that I have dealt with had the magnetic drain plug. ther than glueing a magnet to the tip of the plug, I don't know about a way to magnitize one. Some one had told me to rub metal on a magnet when wet, bu that seems to be a temp magnetic charge that it recieves.
I always place a small magnet in the tranny pans the first time I pull them. I know many (if not all) automatics had them when new, but it seems most of them are MIA by the time I get my hands on them.

67cst · 09-01-2003, 03:14 AM

hey guys, i did the filter and fluid, nothing..the pan was clean too, nothing broken....i wonder what i could get for it..maybe 500 bucks and say needs minor tranny work...lol

casey · 09-01-2003, 03:21 AM

so your saying the trannys worth more than the whole car LOL hey I put a drain plug in my sons C6, it was a bolt on plug, 15 bucks at lordco

Longhorn Man · 09-01-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 67cst
hey guys, i did the filter and fluid, nothing...

Man...sorry to waste your time. At least you found that other truck.

08-30-2003, 04:38 AM	#1
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	anyone know anything about k car trannys? hey guys, sorta pissed off here, my beater might be dead, i was dropping a buddy off tonight and went to back out of his driveway and no reverse, the tranny began to slip about 6 months ago and was progessivly getting worse, then tonight no reverse, 1,2,D work fine then i go to N and its still in gear, then i go to reverse on the indicator and it is in neutral, then park works fine, but its like reverse is missing, do you think my tranny is coooked or is it just linkage or somethin easy to fix? this sucks cause my truck isnt quiet done yet and this was gunna be my winter beater...anyone with knoweldge of these piece of chit cars please let me know what you think thanks, derek __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-30-2003, 08:52 AM	#2
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Probably made by Peugeot or Mitsubishi... No, I don't know anything about them. But, it could be a Peugeot, Mitsubishi or even a Renault transmission. Chrysler was recovering from massively poor financials, and they had deals going on with other manufacturers. My experience with Mitsu, is not favorable. Chrysler gearboxes, i.e., automatics in FWD, isn't any better. Therefore, I only drive my Chevy, and Toyotas. Good luck. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

08-30-2003, 01:22 PM	#3
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	ttt---anyone? __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-30-2003, 01:53 PM	#4
oldsub86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695	How is the fluid? Full? Really dirty and smells burned? __________________ 1968 Chevy - 292 with a powerglide

08-30-2003, 04:59 PM	#6
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	fluid is good, its an 85 plymouth reliant __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-30-2003, 02:16 PM	#5
jef5150 Inline 69 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: valleysprings,california Posts: 1,018	what model car????

08-30-2003, 05:06 PM	#7
jef5150 Inline 69 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: valleysprings,california Posts: 1,018	sounds like this may be your problem,,,,,,,http://www.usatransdoctor.com/Domest...SWERS.htm#A670,,,,,,its at the bottom of the page,,,look for a404/a413/a470/a670,,,,,,,jeff Last edited by jef5150; 08-30-2003 at 05:10 PM.

08-30-2003, 05:15 PM	#8
Hooter My other Love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castlegar B.C. Canada Posts: 4,085	man derek you sure have been given the s;hitty end of the stick lately, i hope things start getting better for ya __________________ Castlegar B.C.The great white North (Canada Eh!) Hooter_5@hotmail.com First generation Monte Carlo club pictures of my life

08-30-2003, 05:29 PM	#9
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	Hoooter, thanks...yeah i sorta have been but ive decided to use my money i had stashed for paint and im going to by a 67-72 truck 2wd or 4wd to drive till next spring...just a beater that runs good is all i need, i dont care what teh cancer is like....as a matter of fact im going to look at a 68 chevy long step tomorrow, the add says 350, 4spd, duel exhaust, slotted mags, he wants 18 hun...so hopefully i can scoop that, why not eh...then ill just part it out when my 67 is ready to rock and roll __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-30-2003, 08:36 PM	#10
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Fe, Texas Posts: 250	I have been told if you have foward gears and no reverse it is usually a filter. If you have reverse and no foward its toast. I am not a tranny guru and I am just passing on what I have heard. If your filter is not to difficult to replace it might be a inexpensive thing to try first. Mike

08-30-2003, 08:50 PM	#11
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	thanks for the idea locutus __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-30-2003, 08:55 PM	#12
71LowBow Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: BC Posts: 128	the perfect solution to your problem is a can of gas and a lighter __________________ 71 fleetside Salmon Arm, BC Canada

08-30-2003, 10:20 PM	#13
pickup6772 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: MASTIC BEACH, long island, ny Posts: 362	DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, AND JUNK THE CAR. THOSE K-CAR TRANNYS ARE SH!#! ONCE THEY GO, YOU USUALLY HAVE TO REPLACE THE WHOLE TRANSMISSION BECAUSE THE GUTS TEAR UP THE CASING, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO REPAIR THEM. MY BROTHER WHO WORKS FOR A DODGE DEALERSHIP IS LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER, AND LAUGHING HIS A@@ OFF!! HE CAN'T BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE K-CARS HAS LASTED THIS LONG. SORRY TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT SOMETIMES THE TRUTH HURTS.

08-30-2003, 10:22 PM	#14
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	yeah no sweat, the drive gear works..i want someone to steal it, ill leave the keys in it if someone makes it dissapear __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-30-2003, 10:59 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	We got lucky with our K car back in the day. It was the wife's first car and we got it for a song. It was actually a pretty clean car too. Anyhow, do yourself a favor and do the fluid and filter thing first. No more than 20 bucks and you'll probably be back on the road and spinning out in the snow (in reverse of course). Toss a bottle or two of tranny treatment in there too. It's not like it'll do any damage to it. While I do love having a beater truck for a daily driver, it can really test your paitents. Mine thrives on neglect, but it is starting to give me trouble on things, and nothing sucks worsr than staying up late, laying in the driveway in the rain trying to thrash to rip a part off the project that your daily driver is needing...just to get to work in the morning.



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08-30-2003, 11:23 PM	#16
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	u think a filter would do it? hmmm __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-31-2003, 12:34 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	It worked on ours. Exact same description. No reverse, plenty of forward. However, in all reality, the tranny is on its last leg and this may not fix it. But it is cheaper than replacing the car, and buying a truck to just get through the winter...kinda sounds like the more expensive way out of the situation. At least you already know the little quirks on your beater right now. Kinda seems like backwards advice, but I say keep the little sh!it box for a few more months and try this.

08-31-2003, 01:16 PM	#18
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	hmmmm changing the filter would suck....why dont tranny pans have plugs.... __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

08-31-2003, 01:40 PM	#19
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	LOL! The best theory I have heard as to why most auto trannys have no drain plug is becouse most people would not drop the pan after draining it to replace the filter. That is one thing i love about the Saturns. I don't know about the new ones, but i remember they had an auto tranny with a 50,000 mile spin on filter for easy serviceing. Too bad there cars are so fugly and booring huh?

08-31-2003, 10:16 PM	#20
casey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 2,048	my truck has a drain plug in the pan, doesn't look like an add on plug, the pan is shaped to accommodate the plug, Hey longhornmail, I was changing oil in my 1991 ford 5 spd, and when I took the plug out, it was magnetic, covered in small filings, but it also looked like there was this thick grease on the plug, is there a special magnetic gook you put on the plug to help the plug collect filings? 67cst sorry to weize on your thread

08-31-2003, 10:59 PM	#21
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	A hand full of earlier automatic transmissions did in fact have a stock drain plug. If you ever get your hands on one, keep it. If not for you, then sell them on here or even E-bay. People will give an eyetooth to not have to take an ATF bath every couple years. Most Standards that I have dealt with had the magnetic drain plug. ther than glueing a magnet to the tip of the plug, I don't know about a way to magnitize one. Some one had told me to rub metal on a magnet when wet, bu that seems to be a temp magnetic charge that it recieves. I always place a small magnet in the tranny pans the first time I pull them. I know many (if not all) automatics had them when new, but it seems most of them are MIA by the time I get my hands on them.

09-01-2003, 03:14 AM	#22
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	hey guys, i did the filter and fluid, nothing..the pan was clean too, nothing broken....i wonder what i could get for it..maybe 500 bucks and say needs minor tranny work...lol __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

09-01-2003, 03:21 AM	#23
casey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 2,048	so your saying the trannys worth more than the whole car LOL hey I put a drain plug in my sons C6, it was a bolt on plug, 15 bucks at lordco Last edited by casey; 09-01-2003 at 03:23 AM.

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