Few concerns with ECE install

[bbcmudtruck]

I was mocking up my brake lines and noticed that my ECE pan hard bar may interfere with my C-Notch. I have ECE trailing arm cross member, ECE trailing arms, ECE rear springs, ECE shock re-locators as well as their pan hard bar. If you look at the pics, the pan hard bar sits really close to the top of the axle. I don't have my saddles welded to the axle yet, so I'm wondering if I should flip the trailing arm mounts to pivot the pan hard bar downward some. Here are the pictures, what are your thoughts?

[Woodnears]

I'm not familiar with the ece setup so can't give you input there. I am wondering how that nicop brake line worked out for ya?

[bbcmudtruck]

The brake line is very easy to work with. I tried Poly Armour as well as the O'Rielly's house brand (Eldeman) and the NICOP was by far the easiest to work with. It is very soft so you will need to figure out a way to isolate the line with rubber brackets. I'm still in the process of figuring all that out so I don't have any photos yet. I found that the CTA inline flaring tool works excellent with this tubing. It flares excellent 100% of the time. My Craftsman flaring tool is 50/50. Highly recomend the CTA inline tool when working with the NICOP.

[SCOTI]

bbcmudtruck,

I know this has been a repeat complaint from others using the ECE rear set-up. Unfortunately, they haven't changed their design to eliminate the interference issue.

I know the recommendation has been made to them to relocate the bracket so it sits completely on the inside of the rail vs on the T/A (thus under the rail). A lowering block will help w/drop + provide additional clearance or utilizing a different T/A mount that doesn't sit on top of the T/A. Some have opened/stretched the c-notch area but it seems easier too me to tweak/change the position of the bracket.

[bbcmudtruck]

Hey thanks Scoti, I was hoping you would chime in! This is the first I've heard of the issue. I haven't seen anyone else bring it up, although I'm sure it has been discussed. Currently I have 6" drop springs and was planning on adding another inch of blocks. At this point, I'm wondering if maybe I should just order up a kit from Rob@nolimit. Thoughts?

[lolife99]

The ECE kit will work fine.
If you completely air out your axle tube (with bags) the center section of the rearend will hit the bed floor before your axle tube touches the notch.
I have a 6" ECE drop spring on my red '69 with a 1.5" lowering block and it works fine.

You could also switch to a CPP trailing arm mount which positions the track bar lower.
(in the middle of the trailing arm, instead of above the trailing arm like the ECE bracket does)
I would rather have the track bar as close to horizontal as possible.

I would add a lowering block if I were you.

[lolife99]

Same issue in this thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=347468

[lolife99]

More found with the search box at the top of the page.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=208563

If you run into a problem with these old trucks,... I'm sure it's been addressed on the board before.

[bbcmudtruck]

Thanks LOLIFE!!!

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by lolife99

The ECE kit will work fine.
If you completely air out your axle tube (with bags) the center section of the rearend will hit the bed floor before your axle tube touches the notch.
I have a 6" ECE drop spring on my red '69 with a 1.5" lowering block and it works fine.

You could also switch to a CPP trailing arm mount which positions the track bar lower.
(in the middle of the trailing arm, instead of above the trailing arm like the ECE bracket does)I would rather have the track bar as close to horizontal as possible.

I would add a lowering block if I were you.

From the CPP bracket I have, it shifts the mount to the inside of the arm but keeps it @ the same height as basically the ECE set-up does. Didn't seem to drop it lower. I'll have to look @ that again....

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

From the CPP bracket I have, it shifts the mount to the inside of the arm but keeps it @ the same height as basically the ECE set-up does. Didn't seem to drop it lower. I'll have to look @ that again....

EDIT:
This is a PBFAB bracket and track bar.
www.pbfab.com
(previously stated as the wrong brand)

[bbcmudtruck]

Thanks for all the help fellas! I'm planning on adding a 1" block, so hopefully that will help. I sort of wanted to put the truck together with the bbc to see how the vehicle is going to sit before I started changing suspension setup. With that said, I might go ahead an build a bracket that will lower the mounting point for the ECE bar. I'll study it this weekend and see about making a bracket that moves it lower. Thanks!!

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by lolife99

This is the CPP bracket I'm referring to,...

Wow Keith! I would have thought you knew what PB parts look like by now!!! LOL




Nate

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by PBFAB.COM

Wow Keith! I would have thought you knew what PB parts look like by now!!! LOL




Nate

Sorry Nate.
I normally give you some free advertising.
Here you go,... PORTERBUILT,... the "first choice in all things C10" suspension.

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Sorry Nate.
I normally give you some free advertising.
Here you go,... PORTERBUILT,... the "first choice in all things C10" suspension.

The first pic you posted was of our kit too! That's why I was giving you a hard time.

Nate

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by PBFAB.COM

The first pic you posted was of our kit too! That's why I was giving you a hard time.

Nate

i'm asleep here,...
gotta quit using my phone

[lolife99]

Here's the CPP bracket that SCOTI is talking about,...

[bbcmudtruck]

That PFAB bracket looks great and seems to solve the problem. Is the bracket that attaches to the trailing arm available only?

[bbcmudtruck]

While I'm at it, what do these brackets go to? They cam with my ECE parts, however there isn't any reference to them in the instructions at all. Any ideas?

[bbcmudtruck]

Bump!

Does anyone know what these brackets are for? I emailed ECE and never heard back from them. Thanks!

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by bbcmudtruck

That PFAB bracket looks great and seems to solve the problem. Is the bracket that attaches to the trailing arm available only?

It's not something that we list separately. The main reason is that it's designed to work specifically with our trac-bar kit. I am not sure if it would work with the ECE trac bar. The width of the bushing end might not be the same.

Feel free to email me if you would like. We could compare some measurements. Tech@pbfab.com

I have no idea what those misc. brackets you posted are for.

Nate

[bbcmudtruck]

Thanks Nate, I really appreciate it! I'll get some measurements and photos gathered up and send you an email.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by bbcmudtruck

Bump!

Does anyone know what these brackets are for? I emailed ECE and never heard back from them. Thanks!

I would have thought maybe just shims to keep the driver/pass sides equal when installing side specific brackets, but the shape is odd vs what's needed for just a retangular shim.

Are the holes the same size as the T/A u-bolts? I wonder if they could possibly be some sort of sway bar mounting pads?

[SIXTY9CST]

Does the 1.5 inch block work with a rear coil spring? Where can i find the 1.5 inch block? i have an ECE 4/6 kit i want to level out.

Originally Posted by lolife99

The ECE kit will work fine.
If you completely air out your axle tube (with bags) the center section of the rearend will hit the bed floor before your axle tube touches the notch.
I have a 6" ECE drop spring on my red '69 with a 1.5" lowering block and it works fine.

You could also switch to a CPP trailing arm mount which positions the track bar lower.
(in the middle of the trailing arm, instead of above the trailing arm like the ECE bracket does)
I would rather have the track bar as close to horizontal as possible.

I would add a lowering block if I were you.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by SIXTY9CST

Does the 1.5 inch block work with a rear coil spring? Where can i find the 1.5 inch block? i have an ECE 4/6 kit i want to level out.

Member/Vendor way2lo2 sells lowering blocks.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=454824