vin tag rosette rivets - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

pimpston65 · 05-16-2015, 08:35 AM

i found a pair of "NOS" rosette rivets for my burban, has anyone removed the vin and used these before?

spookylynx · 05-16-2015, 11:46 AM

Is there a special rivet for the VIN tags? I drilled and pulled mine so I could clean and repaint.

I was just going to rivet them back on with ones I had laying around.

perro13 · 05-16-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpston65

i found a pair of "NOS" rosette rivets for my burban, has anyone removed the vin and used these before?

where did you pick those up?

**VictoriaHardware** · 05-16-2015, 11:55 AM

Is there anything you can't find?

I doubt you'll get many responses to your question as these are supposed to be illegal for anyone other than an OEM to possess because non-restorers could cover up a stolen car.

Keith Seymore · 05-16-2015, 12:01 PM

What year is your Suburban?

I don't think rosette rivets came into use until the mid 1965 model year (at least for Pontiac nameplated vehicles).

K

**aerotruk63** · 05-16-2015, 01:12 PM

http://www.rosetterivets.com/shop/la...rosette-rivets

pimpston65 · 05-16-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spookylynx

Is there a special rivet for the VIN tags? I drilled and pulled mine so I could clean and repaint.

I was just going to rivet them back on with ones I had laying around.

my 65 has the round rivets, my 66 has the rosette type...

pimpston65 · 05-16-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by perro13

where did you pick those up?

i was watching a seller on evilbay, he had them for $100. well when i went back they were gone, but at the bottom of the page another seller had em for $50 so i bought em, he said i could get another 2 for $25...

pimpston65 · 05-16-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VictoriaHardware

Is there anything you can't find?

I doubt you'll get many responses to your question as these are supposed to be illegal for anyone other than an OEM to possess because non-restorers could cover up a stolen car.

i heard high dollar resto guys do it all the time!!! they weren't easy to find, well not for me anyway!!!

pimpston65 · 05-16-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

What year is your Suburban?

I don't think rosette rivets came into use until the mid 1965 model year (at least for Pontiac nameplated vehicles).

K

its a 66.

pimpston65 · 05-16-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aerotruk63

http://www.rosetterivets.com/shop/la...rosette-rivets

the seller i got mine from is in windsor,canada.

Jeff La · 05-16-2015, 08:28 PM

You can do it yourself with a file, take your time and they'll look just like original.

Monte's62 · 05-16-2015, 08:41 PM

Pimp, man you can find anything. You are going to have a nice burb when finished because that is some attention to detail right there. Good find!!

**60-66** · 05-16-2015, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpston65

my 65 has the round rivets, my 66 has the rosette type...

Your 65s should be Rosettes , not round

Keith Seymore · 05-16-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66

Your 65s should be Rosettes , not round

I wouldn't be surprised if it varies based on final assembly location and build month.

K

LostMy65 · 05-16-2015, 11:35 PM

I'll try to remember to look tomorrow and see if my 65 are round or rosettes.

pimpston65 · 05-17-2015, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff La

You can do it yourself with a file, take your time and they'll look just like original.

i thought of that, but didn't wanna mess it up...

pimpston65 · 05-17-2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 60-66

Your 65s should be Rosettes , not round

i will double check...

pimpston65 · 05-17-2015, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Monte's62

Pimp, man you can find anything. You are going to have a nice burb when finished because that is some attention to detail right there. Good find!!

thanks, i can research stuff all day. i just can't buy it all with limited budget...

**LEEVON** · 05-17-2015, 09:32 AM

When I bought my truck, somebody had replaced the original VIN tag rosette rivets with standard round ones. I can't say for sure whether or not they had replaced the cab for a collision repair or just removed the tag to paint. The cab appeared to be original. Everything on the truck was legit, it had the original frame, engine, transmission, SPID, and VIN tag. However due to it being an older vehicle and from another state, a highway patrolman was required to inspect it. He agreed on our opinion of the VIN rivets but could have easily impounded the truck as stolen. 15 years later, before transferring the title to another state and taking this risk again, I replaced the round rivets with rosette rivets for peace of mind.

Keep in mind that the sale and manufacturing of these is basically illegal. There was a EBAY seller a few years ago who was indicted on federal charges. Numerous threads on the subject have been closed. This forum cannot take on the liability. However with that said I think there are plenty of legitimate reasons that enthusiasts or restorers like ourselves would use them. But if you can avoid messing with the rivets you should in my opinion.

pimpston65 · 05-17-2015, 09:59 AM

i think my 65 was original the the frame cuz it was really rusted "BAD", unless the original cab was a totaled heap, i couldnt see them swapping. its all legal now so im not gonna worry...

bruceman1968 · 05-17-2015, 10:22 AM

http://www.leagle.com/decision/19911...0v.%20STEFFENS

LostMy65 · 05-17-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bruceman1968

http://www.leagle.com/decision/19911...0v.%20STEFFENS

Eeek!

65standard · 05-17-2015, 10:51 AM

It's a dumb law. Yes it has potential for fraud, but no different than say a baseball bat is potentially a deadly weapon.

pwrbrkpadguy · 05-17-2015, 11:00 AM

WOW! I was thinking of reproducing these but if I go to jail for it I don't think all my equipment for the power brake pedal pads would fit in my cell! I guess I'll just keep working overtime at the plant!

05-16-2015, 08:35 AM	#1
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05-16-2015, 11:46 AM	#2
spookylynx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Vail, Colorado Posts: 163	Re: vin tag rosette rivets Is there a special rivet for the VIN tags? I drilled and pulled mine so I could clean and repaint. I was just going to rivet them back on with ones I had laying around.

05-16-2015, 11:55 AM	#4
VictoriaHardware Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 792	Re: vin tag rosette rivets Is there anything you can't find? I doubt you'll get many responses to your question as these are supposed to be illegal for anyone other than an OEM to possess because non-restorers could cover up a stolen car.

05-16-2015, 12:01 PM	#5
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,230	Re: vin tag rosette rivets What year is your Suburban? I don't think rosette rivets came into use until the mid 1965 model year (at least for Pontiac nameplated vehicles). K __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

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05-16-2015, 08:28 PM	#12
Jeff La Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Donaldsonville, La. Posts: 1,024	Re: vin tag rosette rivets You can do it yourself with a file, take your time and they'll look just like original.

05-16-2015, 08:41 PM	#13
Monte's62 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dallas Ga Posts: 308	Re: vin tag rosette rivets Pimp, man you can find anything. You are going to have a nice burb when finished because that is some attention to detail right there. Good find!!

05-16-2015, 11:35 PM	#16
LostMy65 But Found Her 25yrs Later! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 10,530	Re: vin tag rosette rivets I'll try to remember to look tomorrow and see if my 65 are round or rosettes. __________________ I lost my 65 - Found it 25 years later: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=426650 66 C20 Service Truck: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=428035

05-17-2015, 09:32 AM	#20
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,893	Re: vin tag rosette rivets When I bought my truck, somebody had replaced the original VIN tag rosette rivets with standard round ones. I can't say for sure whether or not they had replaced the cab for a collision repair or just removed the tag to paint. The cab appeared to be original. Everything on the truck was legit, it had the original frame, engine, transmission, SPID, and VIN tag. However due to it being an older vehicle and from another state, a highway patrolman was required to inspect it. He agreed on our opinion of the VIN rivets but could have easily impounded the truck as stolen. 15 years later, before transferring the title to another state and taking this risk again, I replaced the round rivets with rosette rivets for peace of mind. Keep in mind that the sale and manufacturing of these is basically illegal. There was a EBAY seller a few years ago who was indicted on federal charges. Numerous threads on the subject have been closed. This forum cannot take on the liability. However with that said I think there are plenty of legitimate reasons that enthusiasts or restorers like ourselves would use them. But if you can avoid messing with the rivets you should in my opinion. __________________ '86 GMC C30 Crew ~ '86 C20 Crew ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '74K10 ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids Last edited by LEEVON; 05-17-2015 at 09:38 AM.

05-17-2015, 09:59 AM	#21
pimpston65 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corktown,mi. Posts: 5,194	Re: vin tag rosette rivets i think my 65 was original the the frame cuz it was really rusted "BAD", unless the original cab was a totaled heap, i couldnt see them swapping. its all legal now so im not gonna worry...

05-17-2015, 10:22 AM	#22
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05-17-2015, 10:51 AM	#24
65standard Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 695	Re: vin tag rosette rivets It's a dumb law. Yes it has potential for fraud, but no different than say a baseball bat is potentially a deadly weapon. __________________ Tony Nicholas @ Midwest Metal Masters 1953 Chevy 3100 392 Hemi w/727 & 9” Ford 1985 Chevy C/10 6.0L 4L80 373 locker

05-17-2015, 11:00 AM	#25
pwrbrkpadguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 301	Re: vin tag rosette rivets WOW! I was thinking of reproducing these but if I go to jail for it I don't think all my equipment for the power brake pedal pads would fit in my cell! I guess I'll just keep working overtime at the plant!



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