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hugger6933 · 05-27-2015, 10:16 PM

between single wheel one tons and dual rear wheels? My C30 has real deep gears like the %:13 or something stupid like that. I read where people are putting newer rears into their one tons to make them a little more friendly to drive. I have a couple of HD2500 rears like 03 and 06 at the shop what would it take to add the dual wheels to one of those and put that rear in my old one ton.
Also I got some Alcoas today and they must take a flat swivel washer nut, right? Thanks in advance. Jim

**kwmech** · 05-28-2015, 01:25 AM

You could step into either a 14 bolt or a Dana 70. Either one will require a small amount of fabrication to get it to fit the early chassis, mostly shock location and e-brake cable mods. 4.10s are readily available and seem to work the best in a 1 ton situation.

**slomotion** · 05-28-2015, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hugger6933

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Also I got some Alcoas today and they must take a flat swivel washer nut, right? Thanks in advance. Jim

This is correct. The lug nut has a captured washer that won't dig into the aluminum as you're torquing them.

hugger6933 · 05-28-2015, 11:54 AM

I went out back and looked at my truck it has flat washers under the nut , would those work? Or am I gonna have to buy the ones that swivel? I may just take those back and pick up some regular metal ones to finish making a set. I have three one piece wheels and three split wheels. It has been ten forevers since I have fooled with a one ton. Jim

**slomotion** · 05-28-2015, 12:16 PM

Ideally, you want the nut and washer to turn independently. A washer that is an integral part of the nut will scrub on the wheel surface and give you a false torque reading, and with the aluminum being relatively soft could gall eventually allowing the nut to loosen.
Not trying to be a prophet of doom here, but better to be safe.
The down side is the lug nuts with captured washers aren't cheap unless you can find them in a bone yard. Just be sure the washer moves freely under the nut.

cooperhw · 05-28-2015, 12:23 PM

I found a 79 1 ton dually chassis for $250 off craigslissssss. Changed the rear end and entire front crossmember unit including sway bar and disc brakes.
One weekend out and back in.

Only way to fly.

JMO

hugger6933 · 05-28-2015, 08:13 PM

The guy that lives next to my shop yard has a junk yard. He has a dually rear [I think it looks like a Dana 70] I think it is from a Ford but it has 4 wheels on it with tires[a plus for me] I may try to get him to bring it home and dump it off in my driveway. Jim

05-27-2015, 10:16 PM	#1
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	What is the difference between single wheel one tons and dual rear wheels? My C30 has real deep gears like the %:13 or something stupid like that. I read where people are putting newer rears into their one tons to make them a little more friendly to drive. I have a couple of HD2500 rears like 03 and 06 at the shop what would it take to add the dual wheels to one of those and put that rear in my old one ton. Also I got some Alcoas today and they must take a flat swivel washer nut, right? Thanks in advance. Jim Attached Images

05-28-2015, 01:25 AM	#2
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,650	Re: What is the difference You could step into either a 14 bolt or a Dana 70. Either one will require a small amount of fabrication to get it to fit the early chassis, mostly shock location and e-brake cable mods. 4.10s are readily available and seem to work the best in a 1 ton situation.

05-28-2015, 11:54 AM	#4
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	Re: What is the difference I went out back and looked at my truck it has flat washers under the nut , would those work? Or am I gonna have to buy the ones that swivel? I may just take those back and pick up some regular metal ones to finish making a set. I have three one piece wheels and three split wheels. It has been ten forevers since I have fooled with a one ton. Jim

05-28-2015, 12:16 PM	#5
slomotion Old Duffer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 1,822	Re: What is the difference Ideally, you want the nut and washer to turn independently. A washer that is an integral part of the nut will scrub on the wheel surface and give you a false torque reading, and with the aluminum being relatively soft could gall eventually allowing the nut to loosen. Not trying to be a prophet of doom here, but better to be safe. The down side is the lug nuts with captured washers aren't cheap unless you can find them in a bone yard. Just be sure the washer moves freely under the nut. __________________ '68 Short C20 Flatbed Dually w/ 292 4bbl, Langdon cast headers, and WC T5 trans. '81 G10 Shorty Van "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement." Will Rogers "Under promise, then over achieve."

05-28-2015, 12:23 PM	#6
cooperhw Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Mesa AZ (Near Phoenix) Posts: 2,302	Re: What is the difference I found a 79 1 ton dually chassis for $250 off craigslissssss. Changed the rear end and entire front crossmember unit including sway bar and disc brakes. One weekend out and back in. Only way to fly. JMO __________________ "Life is too short to drive a boring vehicle". Later, Wayne

05-28-2015, 08:13 PM	#7
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	Re: What is the difference The guy that lives next to my shop yard has a junk yard. He has a dually rear [I think it looks like a Dana 70] I think it is from a Ford but it has 4 wheels on it with tires[a plus for me] I may try to get him to bring it home and dump it off in my driveway. Jim



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