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**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-28-2015, 12:46 PM

I bought a pair of rear marker lens. One is for lights and the other isn't, because there's not a hole in back of it.

I read where these trucks didn't come with lights until 1970. Until then they were just reflectors. So my really ignorant question is, can the pre-1970 lenses be converted somehow, or is it best to just sell this "reflector" and locate one that accepts a light?

The back looks like this one:

**RenoKeene** · 05-28-2015, 12:55 PM

Sell the ones you have and buy the correct ones.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-28-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RenoKeene

Sell the ones you have and buy the correct ones.

Learn something new everyday, I had no idea there was a difference. The guy shouldn't have sold them in a pair and my ignorance cost me. Just what I wanted, more items to sell. Thanks for the response.

SS Tim · 05-28-2015, 01:25 PM

GM called them "side marker reflectors". IMHO even trucks that were built without the lighted marker should have them added. Every little bit helps in today's traffic.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-28-2015, 01:41 PM

It appears the 911165 is a reflector only, while the 916087 is for a light. The 916087 was a replacement part for 911165, as it works for either. The guy advertised them as 916087. He may not have known any better. Obviously, I didn't.

67 chevelle · 05-28-2015, 02:41 PM

68 and newer had the holes in the fenders for reflectors /or lights , I put trans am lights in my 68 , scrapped the reflectors , I think 72 and newer all had lights , I have seen 71s with reflectors , may depend on trim level

**too much stuff** · 05-28-2015, 03:43 PM

68 was reflectors, 69 was the change over year and have seen both on 69 trucks, and 70 was standard with lights i believe.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-28-2015, 04:40 PM

Ha, the seller claims these (below) are a matching pair. Both boxes are for 911165, but someone penciled in 916087 on one of them, which would be mostly correct, it's just not the original box, which is no big deal. He advertised them as 916087 (red font, below).

I asked for a refund on at least the "reflector", but he says I'm "being ridiculous". At this point I won't say who it is, but if he keeps it up you bet I will.

"1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 Chevy Truck Pickup & Blazer Rear Side Marker Light Lamps NOS
LEFT HAND and RIGHT HAND (One Pair) Rear Side Market Light Lamps
1968-69-70-71-72 Chevrolet Pickup Truck & Blazer
GM OEM # 916087"

**burb71** · 05-28-2015, 11:15 PM

Ill trade or buy that reflector one from you

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-29-2015, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by burb71

Ill trade or buy that reflector one from you

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Interesting. The guy sent me an email stating only "I'll send you a check for the one"................However, what do you have to trade? Note: this reflector is mint, and has a nice gasket. It even comes with the right box.....Ha!...."mine" sure didn't.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-29-2015, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by too much stuff

68 was reflectors, 69 was the change over year and have seen both on 69 trucks, and 70 was standard with lights i believe.

Sounds right to me. I wonder what motivated GM to show "68" on the front and backs of the lenses for lights (i.e. 916087)? The originals on my 71 read the same, and I've never seen one marked anything else.

Meanwhile, they show 67 and 71 (that I've seen) on the tails, yet the mold is exact. Funny thing is, one of my tails is 71 and the other 67. I've owned this since 89 and never replaced one. Together they're worth $2, but I'll probably box them. One box for scraps and another for the original packages, just cuz I'm anal. Hate that word.

SS Tim · 05-29-2015, 02:08 AM

68 were side marker reflectors.
69 side marker reflectors were standard. Optional illumination RPO UB3 was $10.80 and IIRC it was an overlay wiring harness dedicated to the side marker lamps.
70 the illuminated side marker lamps were standard.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 05-29-2015, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SS Tim

68 were side marker reflectors.
69 side marker reflectors were standard. Optional illumination RPO UB3 was $10.80 and IIRC it was an overlay wiring harness dedicated to the side marker lamps.
70 the illuminated side marker lamps were standard.

Probably.

Was near Edwards yesterday. Spent some time in San Diego.

05-28-2015, 12:46 PM	#1
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,189	Rear marker lens without lights? I bought a pair of rear marker lens. One is for lights and the other isn't, because there's not a hole in back of it. I read where these trucks didn't come with lights until 1970. Until then they were just reflectors. So my really ignorant question is, can the pre-1970 lenses be converted somehow, or is it best to just sell this "reflector" and locate one that accepts a light? The back looks like this one: __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 05-28-2015 at 12:54 PM.

05-28-2015, 12:55 PM	#2
RenoKeene Florida Edition Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 4,021	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? Sell the ones you have and buy the correct ones. __________________ 70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394

05-28-2015, 01:25 PM	#4
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? GM called them "side marker reflectors". IMHO even trucks that were built without the lighted marker should have them added. Every little bit helps in today's traffic. Attached Images __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

05-28-2015, 01:41 PM	#5
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,189	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? It appears the 911165 is a reflector only, while the 916087 is for a light. The 916087 was a replacement part for 911165, as it works for either. The guy advertised them as 916087. He may not have known any better. Obviously, I didn't. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 05-28-2015 at 01:48 PM.

05-28-2015, 02:41 PM	#6
67 chevelle Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: WEST PALM FLORIDA Posts: 1,174	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? 68 and newer had the holes in the fenders for reflectors /or lights , I put trans am lights in my 68 , scrapped the reflectors , I think 72 and newer all had lights , I have seen 71s with reflectors , may depend on trim level __________________ 68 Long Fleet , ly6 , turbo 350 , 3-5 drop , original paint , front discs 67 Small window , 7 foot bed , tweaked 6.0 LSX 2004R Medium Olive 58 Apache fleet , 235 , offy intake , dual exhaust , 4 on the floor , red/white 69 Long Fleet , Custom , 6.0, 4l60 , AC , Medium Olive

05-28-2015, 03:43 PM	#7
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05-28-2015, 04:40 PM	#8
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,189	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? Ha, the seller claims these (below) are a matching pair. Both boxes are for 911165, but someone penciled in 916087 on one of them, which would be mostly correct, it's just not the original box, which is no big deal. He advertised them as 916087 (red font, below). I asked for a refund on at least the "reflector", but he says I'm "being ridiculous". At this point I won't say who it is, but if he keeps it up you bet I will. "1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 Chevy Truck Pickup & Blazer Rear Side Marker Light Lamps NOS LEFT HAND and RIGHT HAND (One Pair) Rear Side Market Light Lamps 1968-69-70-71-72 Chevrolet Pickup Truck & Blazer GM OEM # 916087" __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 05-28-2015 at 07:01 PM.

05-28-2015, 11:15 PM	#9
burb71 Active Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ft. Myers, Fl Posts: 1,716	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? Ill trade or buy that reflector one from you

05-29-2015, 02:08 AM	#12
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: Rear marker lens without lights? 68 were side marker reflectors. 69 side marker reflectors were standard. Optional illumination RPO UB3 was $10.80 and IIRC it was an overlay wiring harness dedicated to the side marker lamps. 70 the illuminated side marker lamps were standard. __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban



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