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Old 06-21-2015, 03:39 PM   #1
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What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

It looks like I'm going to use the GM Performance Connect and Cruise LS3 6.2L, 480 HP with 4L70E transmission for my build (part #CPSLS3764804L70E). I would like to use a radiator that has the transmission cooler built into it instead of running a separate cooler (if possible) for a cleaner install. I'd like to get some feedback on what others have used, and if I need to run anything special. I would think that I could have the trans cooler built into my radiator for this set up. Thanks for your feedback.
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:15 PM   #2
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

Pricey, but if your gonna do it right This is the way I will go when I have to replace the tired 305 in my Silverado, E-Rod LS3 6.2
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Old 06-21-2015, 06:52 PM   #3
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

If you change your mind, I can vouch for running a trans cooler solo. Get a fan cooled unit on a separate switch. Soooo nice for heavy traffic or staging lanes.
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:21 PM   #4
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If you change your mind, I can vouch for running a trans cooler solo. Get a fan cooled unit on a separate switch. Soooo nice for heavy traffic or staging lanes.
Well it's not that I've really made my mind up. It's just that it would be a cleaner build if I could do it with a transmission cooler built into the radiator. On the other hand if the cooler can't handle it, that's another story. If this combo is capable of being cooled that way, then that's the way I'd like to go. It's not going to be dragged or auto crossed. I just want to do what's best for the transmission.

Where would I mount a fan cooled unit? Would it go in front of my AC condenser? If so, how would that affect the radiator?

What about using a cooler built into the radiator along with a frame mounted cooler?
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:41 PM   #5
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

I run a fan cooled unit vertically between my framerails just after the core support. I have a stalled 4l80e and the trans creates a solid amount of heat. I didn't want to put that extra heat load on my radiator, and I already have a passive 2 row cooler for my hydroboost cooling.

I don't like the internal ones because every pass the trans cooler makes is one pass less the radiator gets for cooling out of the same square footage, or the added thickness that some of the HD ones have.

Yes you could run an additional cooler to your internal unit, but going with a fan cooled one at that point would be a waste. Just consider that your paying more for the radiator to start with (unless you get it from a donor), and then adding the additional external cooler. Compared to the cost of a good medium sized fan cooler, which is usually under $200.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:53 PM   #6
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

I will be using the Entropy radiator that is specific for the LSX. I'll be using their built in 2 row tranny cooler as well. Like yourself I didn't want a separate fan/cooler but BREW sounds like he has a sweet azz setup but my convertor/tranny is stock. Buy their fan switch and you can keep the fans on 24/7 if you feel like over-riding them with a simple switch. Mine will be here tomorrow. You can have it because mine will never be done. Lol
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:00 PM   #7
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

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Old 06-22-2015, 12:07 AM   #8
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

I've got way more pics in the build (link in sig), but here are a couple. DeRale makes good products, but its worth going to their upgraded units (coated fins,multirow multipass, easy to hook into with AN).



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Old 06-22-2015, 01:01 PM   #9
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

Well, you just gave me an idea and a reason to spend more money, thanks a lot ..

I will still use the built in Radiator cooler then output to an external cooler (that was my plan) like BR3W posted. Transmissions hate heat, and I'm using a little stall in my TC too so I will at least feel better. 4L70E's that comes with the 480 HP C&C are borderline at supporting 495 lbs. TQ. Cooler the better, to a point.
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

I recommend running an auxillary cooler as well. Another advantage to an aux cooler (as well as the cooling) is the extra capacity it provides the system.
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:35 AM   #11
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

I'm running a Trans cooler as well with my setup. I've got it going through both the radiator and a separate cooler.
My temp seems to stay around 150. Just curious what Temps you all are seeing.
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

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I will be using the Entropy radiator that is specific for the LSX. I'll be using their built in 2 row tranny cooler as well. Like yourself I didn't want a separate fan/cooler but BREW sounds like he has a sweet azz setup but my convertor/tranny is stock. Buy their fan switch and you can keep the fans on 24/7 if you feel like over-riding them with a simple switch. Mine will be here tomorrow. You can have it because mine will never be done. Lol
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:47 PM   #13
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

Thanks for the pictures BR3W. That's a nice set up. I agree that DeRale makes some nice products. I actually looked into a frame rail type or heat sink type for my last build, but changed my mind. I guess I'd like to see more pictures or ideas of what others are doing. Rob if you have any pictures let us know.

What did Chevy do on cars that ran these stock 430 HP or 480 HP LS3 / 4L70E set ups?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:45 AM   #14
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Re: What radiator/transmission cooler for LS3 swap?

Most Chevy vehicles incorporate the transmission cooler into the factory radiator. Many people use those in line with an external cooler, or some may choose to use a different tranny pan to add more fluid, or do both. You can always read through your C&C instructions and see what they recommend for your package. I have the same 4L70E you will be getting, but running a circle-D converter with a 3K stall and I am going to plumb through my Entropy radiator then to an external trans cooler for the added comfort it will stay cool when I need it too.
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Thanks for the pictures BR3W. That's a nice set up. I agree that DeRale makes some nice products. I actually looked into a frame rail type or heat sink type for my last build, but changed my mind. I guess I'd like to see more pictures or ideas of what others are doing. Rob if you have any pictures let us know.

What did Chevy do on cars that ran these stock 430 HP or 480 HP LS3 / 4L70E set ups?
I installed this aux cooler on the output of my factory radiator tranny cooler.
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