1967 k20 ( CST PRO ) build

[Chevymaster461]

1967 k20 CST PRO BUILD
This is a copy from another thread of mine it the history and direction I want want to take my build
I know what your thinking they never made a CST PRO ..HUH
JUST READ AN YOULL FIND OUT WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

Thanks for the input it something I really needed to hear something positive lol
I'll post build thread and more detail on build .... Even if it was uber rare (because of motor ... Come on hatters keep hating on my motor) I will be building my dream truck 4x4 as I have a kinda one of a kind idea for it...(one day when I was 16 and got home from driving side ways lol I told my rusty ... Really rusty c20 that I would restore it to make it happy lol it was my first truck/car it's what I learned to drift in ... I just never knew what I wanted to do cause of so many options to choose from ... So with that said the time went by now several years gone by I got in to 4x4ing an wanted to save as much of the original truck I promised to restore not only for me but it was the first truck my 2 girls (golden lab sisters same litter ( so Dna number matching) ) rode in an toke them to the beach in so it means a lot to them when I removed the cab off the chassis they where upset an deviated looks on there faces ... Plus all through school I always got bullied an cause of that I never got good grades so when I toke a test in school an got 100% my uncle who bought it in 68 that I was buying it from for $500 gave it to me as a present for my good grade an hard effort so it has a lot of sentimental value (so even if It was uber rare I would have probably kept it an not sold not even for a million) so then I started looking in to k frame swap to build a beater 4x4 with heavy duty running gear and so I picked up a 69 k20 frame , decent bed (a lil dented but not rusted like my 67 bed was from dogs) leaf springs, front Dana 44 CK ,gm 14 bolt that was mostly parted but it had title and got it for $75 yes $75 not $750 (as the 14 bolt alone goes for $350 in my area) so boom I had my base platform and most of every thing I needed to start but then it sat for a while cause serious depression hit then I got better did some work and boom depression hit again then it cleared up then I broke my hand (current ) so my therapy project is just sitting but it's gave me the idea that I have now witch is ..( ever herd of a Toyota TRD if so in 2015 they started making there TRD PRO series witch for those who don't know is a more capable off road package) so the idea sparked in my head of what if in 67-72 Chevy made a CST PRO (K series CST that's factory looking and is a very capable off road rig ) so I'm using the best of the off-road parts from 67-72 used on Chevys to put together a kool package all the way down to a custom factory looking spid with my options on it .. So I think my truck we'll be very happy when done ... I'll post build thread link soon on what I have

Lol I can write a freaken Novel on this page this just chapter one

[Chevymaster461]

After surfing local Craig's list this is what I found and bought for $75 bucks .. At at good start so far right

[Chevymaster461]

Then I bought some used 35x12.50r16.5 BFG tires and rims for rollers for $100 .. It was fun getting it home towing a heavy car hauler from uhaul and all the weight towards the rear of the trail in the dumping rain that was flooding ever rut in the high way hydro planning down the freeway fish tailing at 45 mph .. It was 1 hour an a half to get there 4 hour an a half back lol .. Towing with a 90 c2500 in that condition with those circumstances is NOT RECOMMENDED but got it home an this is what it looked like

[Chevymaster461]

I pulled the motor an trans out of my c20 CST , the rear HO52 Detroit locked 4:57 and toke the cab off with the front clip cleaned up the front of the k20 frame painted it black ( gotta take every thing off again cause at time I couldn't afford sand blasting) dropped the cab and front clip on .. Befor that I sanded the 69 bed down an primered it ... Was super hot out beautiful out (and not in the forecast ) it rain that night on my primer job this is what it currently looks like

[Chevymaster461]

Back view .. Hehe an my girls

[Chevymaster461]

Here's the CST SPID... Idk why the pic is so small

[Chevymaster461]

Here some more views ... It won't let me add more than one pic with out deleting the other

[Chevymaster461]

Factory tac an CST steering wheel ... I'll never get rid of the steering wheel it makes me feel like a king when I drive

[Saclandman]

Looks likes a awesome project. Good luck.

[Chevymaster461]

This is a ruff build sheet of what imma do

Era correct for 67-72 production use parts
67 CST

Factory 327 4 bolt LJ (I'll build into a high performance motor with a supercharger)
Muncie SM420 w/granny low (don't quote but I believe it's 7:05)
T221 Rockwell
Front Dana 44 CK 4:56 ARB LOCKED
rear HO52 4:57 Detroit locked
Dual aux tanks w/ suburban tank in rear (remove tank from behind set)
Modern delco style dual battery's
High amp alt
Ac

67 cab an front clip , 69 bed with side marker
Factory Gun rack
I believe it's (h26 interior an custom pattern ) with the CST interior
Gloss black bumpers , grill trim , badges , mirrors , custom grill mesh an smoked Clarence lights
I'm gunna use a bumper that has turn signal cut outs to run clear aux lighting (keeping actual turn signals in grill)
modern delco style push button radio and speakers
Full gauge assembly including tac an vac
Bed armor
CST PRO stamped into the bed sides (just like the TRD PRO)
Hidden winch box behind factory bumper with a license plate snap mount fair lead cover( so you won't know it's there)

Paint Toyota Tundra inferno red

Oh an rims and tires I'm gunna get custom 16.5 8 lug rally rims (no center cap)
Painted color of truck gloss black trim ring and lugs ... Oh plus the trim ring (not made out of thin crap) is gunna also be a beadlock ring

This is so far what I can think of ... I know there's a lot more I'm missing I thought on so many different designs that this is the best one I like hope you guys an gals enjoy

[Chevymaster461]

Will keep updates (currently broken hand) but got t a lot of grunt work done that I'm trying to find pics of that got it to this point

[57taskforce]

Looks like a cool start to me. A few things I've noticed that may be a little easier on you in the future that can be taken care of while its apart are: that sm420/t221 combo is hard to find replacement parts for. The 465/205 combo has a much better aftermarket following than the other. This is especially helpful when the 45+ year old running gear we are dealing with does wear out. Also 16.5 wheels are getting hard to find rubber for. The ho52 eaton is strong but it's pricey/difficult to find break parts for. These are just some "FYI's" I thought of as I read your plans. Definitely looks like a cool project tho and I will be following along for the ride. Best of luck on your build!
Tyler

[Chevymaster461]

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

Looks like a cool start to me. A few things I've noticed that may be a little easier on you in the future that can be taken care of while its apart are: that sm420/t221 combo is hard to find replacement parts for. The 465/205 combo has a much better aftermarket following than the other. This is especially helpful when the 45+ year old running gear we are dealing with does wear out. Also 16.5 wheels are getting hard to find rubber for. The ho52 eaton is strong but it's pricey/difficult to find break parts for. These are just some "FYI's" I thought of as I read your plans. Definitely looks like a cool project tho and I will be following along for the ride. Best of luck on your build!
Tyler

Yeah I know web sites for all the parts ... Just need to know where to look
I can buy a fully rebuilt sm420 for $750 + the sm420 1st like 7:05 and the sm465 1st is 6:50 not to big of difference but when on the rocks it matters
Super swapper still makes tires for 16.5 (not only are the swappers really capable but there era correct for what guys wheeled with in the days)
An I know of the only web site known so far that specialize in the ho rear parts
I'm building it with the best specs I can find of 67 parts ...
My experience is the internet is filled with 98% bs 1% helpful info an 1% of what your looking for an as I've been researching these thing (not pointing at you by any means) but when people search something how long they look 30 mins a hour or the local part store can't find .. But research something till I find it like at lest 5 to 6 hours a day for 4 to 5 years you'll eventually find what you looking for or maybe search something differently ... But thanks for following my build

[hugger6933]

At the moment set aside the possibility of the truck being rare. All of that goes out the window once things start being changed. Also if your being told custom trucks[customized, not trim level] are worth more than originals that is far from true. If a person builds a customized truck they way they want[I feel you should build it just like you want] then in case the time comes for it to leave [some say they will keep them forever but life happens]and you have built it the way you want it dramatically reduces the potential sales pool. More people had rather buy close to original then change it to what they want not what you want.
Now with all that being said I think you should build it the way you want then have the truck you want. I think you have some good ideas and the time off with your hand can help you make a plan instead of jumping headlong into it then changing mid build. Enjoy. Jim

[Chevymaster461]

Well the truck that might have been rare had its rusted bed a frame scrapted so at this point there's no going back so I'm gunna build it to my fantasy specs of what I think would have been kool if factory made that way if you catch my drift
( like a concept artist for gm that never got made type of deal I want its main fundamentals to have been plossible in 67 beside a few small things )

[Chevymaster461]

I want to get the bed sides stamped with lettering that's says " CST PRO " like the tundra TRD pro has any one that's viewing do you know of a place ... I can't imagine that's lot of places but there should be a few ... I figure that actual bed side won't be able to be stamped do to metal stretching or shrinking from being pressed and be more cost effective on shipping to have a metal sheet stamped then bed cut out an panels welded in like a patch ... Any thoughts on what would be the best way and where I can get it done at would be helpful I want the stamp to look like this except "CST PRO "

[Chevymaster461]

So now that my phone broke I can't find the website I book marked that's a highly elusive web site that sell HO52 parts sad day
So now with that said I got to rethink my build
So what axles should I run ?

Gm 14 front
Gm 14 bolt shaved rear ?

Rock jock d60 front
Gm 14 bolt shaved rear

Any suggestions?
I have already a gm 14 bolt rear ( an can pull the Detroit out of the ho52 to put in the 14b )
Completely lost at this moment but I have quite a bit of time to think (do to broken hand)
I'm pretty sure of what I want to do with most of my truck .. But I got so many different designs in my head ... I just thought that a vintage 4x4 style build using era correct parts would spark interest in the ever so small vintage 4x4ing world but most people just ether use a beat up vintage to wheel an not care about damaging it or they restore it all nice an pretty an afraid of having to go back an do body work... so I guess at this point I'm not gunna do era match simply cause of all my research (4 years worth of manipulating spiders to find that website ) that was lost when my phone broke
so some ideas maybe of what direction to go
but these are the basics I want:
Cherry body
327 motor . mabey supercharged
Or high performance 6 cylinder 4btbi turbo charged w/ custom made block
Sm420(can buy them completely rebuilt $750) or maybe a five speed if it has 1st gear comparable to 7:05
Would like to run dual t case (have any good combo options)
The Tranny I can order with adapter to mate to
Dana 18, 1941-1971
Dana 20, 1962-1979
Dana 300, 1980-1986
New Process Jeep 208, 219 & 229
New Process 207, 231, 241OR, 242 & 249

Axles gears 4:56s , maybe 5:38s
Detroit locked rear , ARB air locked front
Maybe hybrid axles
Electric 15k-18k winch
Beadlock rims did want 16.5s but at this point now it don't mater
Would love to have DT 4 link with dual coil overs w/ separate resivor (cause leaf springs don't mater now )
So right now I'm back in limbo

[Chevymaster461]

This is the front I'm thinking of running
RJ DANA 60 KP 3.250 A.T.W
P.S pic is generic ( at this moment I can't remember witch side drop I need)

Link to part
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...E.aspx?id=3916

[Chevymaster461]

So I found this new 14b shave kit thet requires no ring an pinion trimming
Most definitely gunna use it (increased clearance by 1-7/16" )

Link to part
http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/inde...2d6f11be115f65

[Chevymaster461]

Lol earlier I said $750 but (since my wonderful phone broke this is the only place now I can find) it's $1520-$2030 depending on options

Link to part
http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/t...20_package.htm

[Chevymaster461]

Would love run one of these 4 speed
Probably will I guess

Link to part
http://www.advanceadapters.com/produ...transfer-case/

[Bladeboy1998]

Any updates?

[Chevymaster461]

hey how's it going everyone havent been on for a while (Life) but finaly getting back around to working on my baby .. had to reinstall the steering box , had it off frame for cleaning an frame paint , an have aquired more of what i needed ,Trans(SM420) , transfer case(RW T221) , flywheel , pressure plate, an clutch the 12 inch true spring set up . an stripped interior to get ready for rust repair . i havent forgotton about all ya'll just been bizzy

[mike16]

can I make a humble suggestion? since its not going to be origonal maybe you could consider a 205 rather than the 221.those 221's are getting hard to find and are valuable to restorers while the 205's are much stronger and quite common. that being said maybe consider a 4500 5 speed. up front costs would be more but long term costs would be much less and it could handle a blown motor better than a 420/465 combo with a 221.

[Chevymaster461]

Originally Posted by mike16

can I make a humble suggestion? since its not going to be origonal maybe you could consider a 205 rather than the 221.those 221's are getting hard to find and are valuable to restorers while the 205's are much stronger and quite common. that being said maybe consider a 4500 5 speed. up front costs would be more but long term costs would be much less and it could handle a blown motor better than a 420/465 combo with a 221.

Thanks for the suggestion , i have a sm465 flooded(water) with dry 205 , but i have all ready aquired a SM420/t221 in good condition , i would of loved to put 6bt with NV 5 speed an 205 but money seems to go every but to this truck lol (Life Right) after the long time i had to think since i had my broken hand , some how iv ended up with every thing i originaly wantted , stock
D44 CKnuckle front , HO52 rear 4:56 detroit locked , 327 sbc (67) , an i got free or /free part of another deal to take or leave (compromising 420 for 465) a 465/205 but it had no bell houseing , an was flooded with water , so i started looking around in my area it was $125 for bellhouseing , i found a mated advertised 465/205 for $120 so jumped on it , didnt think much till i got it home several months later looked at it an lol it was a sm420/t221 (destiney right) since then iv slowly aquired more of what i needed an is/are nearly all what i need , but over the time of course my truck rusted more (who ever herd of these trucks rusting more JK JK) an at this point i need to do rust repair , (Cab supports are nearly gone) but i am a welder (collage trained) so not to scary just need to dish the money for pannels ($500ish to do cab) but i appresiate the humbleness XD 😄, peice wize i just need bell Linkage? (after few beers idk what it was called) linkage from frame to fork , but its going to what i originaly wanted
D44 CK
HO52
327
sm420 (7:05)
T221
,the recent problems i have ran into is the weird HO52 brake size (gunna hybrid 14b Rear drums for that) oh an my HO Frooze , im hopeing it was the brakes an not the bearings
but am gunna keep it original (what i want) XD but its nice to know people are still interested in this thread an the love an support on the form is apperiated (? wish spell checked worked on this site on phone) but im very excited for what the future holds for this build , even have fun wireing to do for the whole thing XD an to cheap to buy premaid so 100ft reels an oem weather conectors from jegs here i come , THANK VERY MUCH FOR THE HUMBLE SUGGESTIN , BLESSING