The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-29-2015, 11:52 PM   #1
Legolas894
Chemist under the hood...
 
Legolas894's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fort Erie,ON, Canada
Posts: 617
Powerglide install-How difficult?

Currently have a 283 with 4 speed Muncie (floor shift), 4MV Quadrajet. Muncie needs rebuild. Truck was originally three of the tree with a 292 I6.

Thinking about replacing the Muncie with a Powerglide. Is this a big job?
I assume I need a different steering column to shift on the column. Does my carb need to change as well and a different drive shaft?

Thanks in advance.
__________________


Current fleet:
2013 GMC Sierra, 5.3L, 4x4
1988 GMC Sierra, 305, Auto
1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 360 V8
1997 VW Cabrio, 2.0L
2017 Toyota Rav4, 2.5L

Stuff I wish I still had:
2013 Toyota Matrix [RIP]
1967 GMC 910 Fleetside, 283 V8 [1st Love-SOLD]
1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4X4, 4.0 I-6 [SOLD}
1994 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 5.7LV8 [SOLD]
1995 Chevrolet Astro AWD, 4.3L V6 (RIP)
1998 Chevrolet Suburban 4x4, 5.7L V8 [SOLD]
Legolas894 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 02:30 AM   #2
old Chevy guy
Registered User
 
old Chevy guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Foster Rhode Island
Posts: 1,176
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

You will need an automatic column and the linkage to go with it. An automatic crossmember, and you will need either a radiater with a trans cooler or an aftermarket trans cooler to mount remotely . overall not too too complicated but why a powerglide? Id go turbo 350 if I was going automatic. I don't think you need a different carb just a vacuum port to hook to the modulator. I think the drive shaft from the 3 speed would work but Im not positive. Is the 4 speed a car type Muncie? I took a powerglide out of my 69 Camaro and put in a 4 speed saginaw then upgraded to a Muncie all with the same drive shaft, oh and a th350 once too.
old Chevy guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 02:51 AM   #3
mike16
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: bisbee, arizona
Posts: 1,529
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

what year?

you will want to locate a complete parts truck to cannibalise parts from

powerglide would not be my first choice to convert to automatic. being old school I would go witha th 400. others would recommend an over drive automatic. lots mor parts availability to do that.

2 cents please
mike16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 08:08 AM   #4
Grumpy old man
Senior Member
 
Grumpy old man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gods country East,Tn
Posts: 8,545
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

going from a 4 speed to a power glide is going to be a real let down .and expensive
Grumpy old man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 11:31 AM   #5
Legolas894
Chemist under the hood...
 
Legolas894's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fort Erie,ON, Canada
Posts: 617
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

Quote:
Originally Posted by old Chevy guy View Post
You will need an automatic column and the linkage to go with it. An automatic crossmember, and you will need either a radiater with a trans cooler or an aftermarket trans cooler to mount remotely . overall not too too complicated but why a powerglide? Id go turbo 350 if I was going automatic. I don't think you need a different carb just a vacuum port to hook to the modulator. I think the drive shaft from the 3 speed would work but Im not positive. Is the 4 speed a car type Muncie? I took a powerglide out of my 69 Camaro and put in a 4 speed saginaw then upgraded to a Muncie all with the same drive shaft, oh and a th350 once too.
Thanks for the reply. My rad has the transcooler. My thought on the powerglide was I heard it was a direct bolt on for the 283 as far as splines etc. Not sure if that's true with the TH350.
__________________


Current fleet:
2013 GMC Sierra, 5.3L, 4x4
1988 GMC Sierra, 305, Auto
1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 360 V8
1997 VW Cabrio, 2.0L
2017 Toyota Rav4, 2.5L

Stuff I wish I still had:
2013 Toyota Matrix [RIP]
1967 GMC 910 Fleetside, 283 V8 [1st Love-SOLD]
1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4X4, 4.0 I-6 [SOLD}
1994 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 5.7LV8 [SOLD]
1995 Chevrolet Astro AWD, 4.3L V6 (RIP)
1998 Chevrolet Suburban 4x4, 5.7L V8 [SOLD]
Legolas894 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 11:32 AM   #6
Legolas894
Chemist under the hood...
 
Legolas894's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fort Erie,ON, Canada
Posts: 617
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumpy old man View Post
going from a 4 speed to a power glide is going to be a real let down .and expensive
Rebuilding a Muncie is expensive too. I can pick up a powerglide for $200-300.
__________________


Current fleet:
2013 GMC Sierra, 5.3L, 4x4
1988 GMC Sierra, 305, Auto
1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 360 V8
1997 VW Cabrio, 2.0L
2017 Toyota Rav4, 2.5L

Stuff I wish I still had:
2013 Toyota Matrix [RIP]
1967 GMC 910 Fleetside, 283 V8 [1st Love-SOLD]
1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4X4, 4.0 I-6 [SOLD}
1994 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 5.7LV8 [SOLD]
1995 Chevrolet Astro AWD, 4.3L V6 (RIP)
1998 Chevrolet Suburban 4x4, 5.7L V8 [SOLD]
Legolas894 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 11:34 AM   #7
Legolas894
Chemist under the hood...
 
Legolas894's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fort Erie,ON, Canada
Posts: 617
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike16 View Post
what year?

you will want to locate a complete parts truck to cannibalise parts from

powerglide would not be my first choice to convert to automatic. being old school I would go witha th 400. others would recommend an over drive automatic. lots mor parts availability to do that.

2 cents please
Thanks-Good idea on the parts truck but they are hard to find up here in the Canadian rust belt. Rebuilding the Muncie is expensive. Finding another trans might be cheaper if I can get all the parts from a donor truck. Wasn't sure on the drive shaft lengths and column shift.
__________________


Current fleet:
2013 GMC Sierra, 5.3L, 4x4
1988 GMC Sierra, 305, Auto
1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 360 V8
1997 VW Cabrio, 2.0L
2017 Toyota Rav4, 2.5L

Stuff I wish I still had:
2013 Toyota Matrix [RIP]
1967 GMC 910 Fleetside, 283 V8 [1st Love-SOLD]
1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4X4, 4.0 I-6 [SOLD}
1994 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 5.7LV8 [SOLD]
1995 Chevrolet Astro AWD, 4.3L V6 (RIP)
1998 Chevrolet Suburban 4x4, 5.7L V8 [SOLD]
Legolas894 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 12:01 PM   #8
Stocker
20' Daredevil (Ret)
 
Stocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jefferson State
Posts: 13,722
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legolas894 View Post
Rebuilding a Muncie is expensive too. I can pick up a powerglide for $200-300.
IMO, a powerglide will work if your only concerns are easy bolt-on, low cost, and the truck being able to move forward & backward. Frankly I would not want to live with its 2-speed design. At the very least I would try to use a TH350 (a TH400 robs power and uses more fuel, and is only needed if you have big-block torque).
__________________
- Mike -

1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205

RIP El Jay
Stocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 12:24 PM   #9
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,971
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumpy old man View Post
going from a 4 speed to a power glide is going to be a real let down .and expensive
I agree... the 2-speed 'glide has a wide ratio split and it can be a mutt. If you've never driven a rig with a 'glide you'll be glad you never did.

Very popular with drag racers because of only 2 gears and they have a great reputation on the track for toughness. Racers re-gear them and love them.

Do yourself a favor and get a TH350. You can get them cheap too, and parts are a lot cheaper and easier to find.

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 01:32 PM   #10
mike16
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: bisbee, arizona
Posts: 1,529
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

unless ya absolutely gotta have an autotrans. for about the same cash outlay to do it right.... you might consider an NV4500. the only auto trans worth beans would have to be an overdrive. depending on your rear end ratio a two speed powerglide would drive you crazy
mike16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 03:06 PM   #11
Grumpy old man
Senior Member
 
Grumpy old man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gods country East,Tn
Posts: 8,545
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

I have a friend here in Knoxville that will custom gear a Muncie to your specs for about $1,100.00 , He builds mine last I checked he had 162 in stock .
Grumpy old man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 03:10 PM   #12
leftybass209
Registered User
 
leftybass209's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Modesto, CA
Posts: 2,189
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

While I think the 'glide has a cool vintage factor about it, unless you specifically want a 2 speed automatic, you would most likely be much happier with a TH350, 2004R or 700R4.
leftybass209 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 04:04 PM   #13
Dirt's72
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 1,106
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

I'm not sure of the difficulty level. I have the original one in my 69 shortbed with a 292 and it doesn't have a cooler. I sure like mine a lot. I do get passed on the interstate.
Dirt's72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 04:22 PM   #14
Legolas894
Chemist under the hood...
 
Legolas894's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fort Erie,ON, Canada
Posts: 617
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

Thanks for all of these replies-Very Helpful. Another 4 speed could be an option.

Thanks for that rebuild estimate-That's about the same as I've heard up here. My truck would be considered a parts-truck in Tennessee I'm sure LOL, so spending $1100 on it would be like high-heels on the pig. I had seen a few powerglides for sale so thought that might be a cheap option.
__________________


Current fleet:
2013 GMC Sierra, 5.3L, 4x4
1988 GMC Sierra, 305, Auto
1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 360 V8
1997 VW Cabrio, 2.0L
2017 Toyota Rav4, 2.5L

Stuff I wish I still had:
2013 Toyota Matrix [RIP]
1967 GMC 910 Fleetside, 283 V8 [1st Love-SOLD]
1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4X4, 4.0 I-6 [SOLD}
1994 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 5.7LV8 [SOLD]
1995 Chevrolet Astro AWD, 4.3L V6 (RIP)
1998 Chevrolet Suburban 4x4, 5.7L V8 [SOLD]
Legolas894 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2015, 12:53 PM   #15
cleanfreak
Registered User
 
cleanfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: port robinson ontario canada
Posts: 400
Re: Powerglide install-How difficult?

We just put a powerglide in the 70 shortbed for a friend , the shifter linkage is different from the 3 speed and a little hard to find.
cleanfreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com