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pvienneau · 07-07-2015, 07:13 PM

My steering pitman shaft splines looks mashed. Should I replace it?

58CameoAZ · 07-07-2015, 07:44 PM

I've had Worse Fwiw.
I Think it is still Usable, But Others might say No!
Allen

mphudak · 07-07-2015, 07:56 PM

Usable yes, but as readily available as boxes/shafts are I would look for one. Shouldn't be that expensive.

dwcsr · 07-07-2015, 08:14 PM

That's a twist in the shaft from an accident or hitting a hole, this is fairly common and I see it often in boxes I take apart. The twist will have fractures in it so I'd replace it. NOS ones are around and as said plenty of used ones as well

pvienneau · 07-07-2015, 08:32 PM

In the manual the same unit fits 1/2, 1. and 1 1/2 ton but the ones for say 1 1/2 to 2 Ton. Weird. Anyone know what the correct part number for a 1/2 ton is?

mike16 · 07-07-2015, 08:55 PM

hit a hole?

isn't a hole a void surrounded by matter?

perhaps you did not hit a hole but a whole lot of something?

**mr48chev** · 07-07-2015, 09:11 PM

I would, it looks like that truck took one serious hit at some time or at least the truck the steering box was in at the time did.

dwcsr · 07-07-2015, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike16

hit a hole?

isn't a hole a void surrounded by matter?

perhaps you did not hit a hole but a whole lot of something?

If we are being that technical then yes he hit the matter surrounding a hole hard enough that the inertia of the vehicle overcame the sudden opposite force and was absorbed in the shaft breaking grain bonds that would normally be present twisting its granular structure.

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tmoble · 07-07-2015, 10:47 PM

IOW, it's toast.

mike16 · 07-08-2015, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwcsr

If we are being that technical then yes he hit the matter surrounding a hole hard enough that the inertia of the vehicle overcame the sudden opposite force and was absorbed in the shaft breaking grain bonds that would normally be present twisting its granular structure.

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what he said

pvienneau · 07-08-2015, 07:13 AM

I will change it out. Anyone know the correct part number to order?

Thanks

Pat

dwcsr · 07-08-2015, 09:16 AM

Pat. send me an email I have this one that should work, it has the bushings with it

**mr48chev** · 07-08-2015, 10:27 AM

There ya go, nos with bushings.

I think I'd check the rest of the steering box over real close to make sure That there was no more damage that you didn't see at first inspection before going further with it though. A hit hard enough to bend the shaft may have damaged other internal pieces.

pvienneau · 07-08-2015, 10:50 AM

Looks to be longer than the one I pulled. I'm thinking the part number is 3847342 for the commercial trucks. 1/2 Ton should be included.

pvienneau · 07-08-2015, 10:52 AM

I broke down everything to the ball bearings and checked. Looks good all around except for the shaft.

**mr48chev** · 07-08-2015, 02:09 PM

Good enough.

pvienneau · 07-08-2015, 02:40 PM

I will use a oil seal in place of the packing when I rebuild it.

pvienneau · 07-09-2015, 12:41 PM

Still no luck finding a used or reasonable priced replacement
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mphudak · 07-09-2015, 01:16 PM

Post over on oldgmctrucks.com or stovebolt.com. I'm sure you'll come across one quick. Also, there is Tom Myer's in OK (918) 542-3871 (truck salvage) and a guy out in Idaho that is parting out a large number of truck. His name is Gary Severance #208-683-2393. (he has some CL ads in the NW)

I've bought quite a few parts from Gary over they years. He doesn't do email and may require payment via money order/certified check. Great guy, old school and pretty much has anything you could ever need (except hydramatic parts, myself and one other guy bought him out on what he had). Prices are very reasonable, as is his shipping (at cost).

1project2many · 07-09-2015, 02:41 PM

Quote:

hit a hole?

isn't a hole a void surrounded by matter?

???
Holes aren't filled with matter?

Quote:

perhaps you did not hit a hole but a whole lot of something?

Technically hitting a hole does nothing. It's when you stop hitting the hole that problems can occur.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvienneau

Still no luck finding a used or reasonable priced replacement

Craigslist??

dwcsr · 07-09-2015, 03:13 PM

I came up empty on this one, The part number fits 47-54 1/2 through 1.5T so you have a wide range to shop in

pvienneau · 07-09-2015, 03:59 PM

Agreed. Thanks for looking.

55dude · 07-09-2015, 07:41 PM

put a wanted ad on craigslist!

pvienneau · 07-15-2015, 06:55 AM

Found one on Ebay that was sitting on the shelf or in a moist area. Was covered with surface rust. Cleaned it up. No on to the next part needed.

07-07-2015, 07:13 PM	#1
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Look at this shaft My steering pitman shaft splines looks mashed. Should I replace it? Attached Images __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

07-07-2015, 07:56 PM	#3
mphudak Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 196	Re: Look at this shaft Usable yes, but as readily available as boxes/shafts are I would look for one. Shouldn't be that expensive. __________________ 55.1 GMC Suburban Hydramatic

07-07-2015, 08:14 PM	#4
dwcsr Hollister Road Co. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 6,134	Re: Look at this shaft That's a twist in the shaft from an accident or hitting a hole, this is fairly common and I see it often in boxes I take apart. The twist will have fractures in it so I'd replace it. NOS ones are around and as said plenty of used ones as well

07-07-2015, 08:32 PM	#5
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft In the manual the same unit fits 1/2, 1. and 1 1/2 ton but the ones for say 1 1/2 to 2 Ton. Weird. Anyone know what the correct part number for a 1/2 ton is? __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

07-07-2015, 08:55 PM	#6
mike16 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: bisbee, arizona Posts: 1,529	Re: Look at this shaft hit a hole? isn't a hole a void surrounded by matter? perhaps you did not hit a hole but a whole lot of something?

07-07-2015, 07:44 PM	#2
58CameoAZ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Payson Posts: 430	Re: Look at this shaft I've had Worse Fwiw. I Think it is still Usable, But Others might say No! Allen

07-07-2015, 09:11 PM	#7
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,563	Re: Look at this shaft I would, it looks like that truck took one serious hit at some time or at least the truck the steering box was in at the time did. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

07-07-2015, 10:47 PM	#9
tmoble Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Glendale, Az Posts: 1,062	Re: Look at this shaft IOW, it's toast.

07-08-2015, 07:13 AM	#11
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft I will change it out. Anyone know the correct part number to order? Thanks Pat __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

07-08-2015, 09:16 AM	#12
dwcsr Hollister Road Co. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 6,134	Re: Look at this shaft Pat. send me an email I have this one that should work, it has the bushings with it Attached Images

07-08-2015, 10:27 AM	#13
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,563	Re: Look at this shaft There ya go, nos with bushings. I think I'd check the rest of the steering box over real close to make sure That there was no more damage that you didn't see at first inspection before going further with it though. A hit hard enough to bend the shaft may have damaged other internal pieces. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

07-08-2015, 10:50 AM	#14
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft Looks to be longer than the one I pulled. I'm thinking the part number is 3847342 for the commercial trucks. 1/2 Ton should be included. __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

07-08-2015, 10:52 AM	#15
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft I broke down everything to the ball bearings and checked. Looks good all around except for the shaft. __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

07-08-2015, 02:09 PM	#16
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,563	Re: Look at this shaft Good enough. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

07-08-2015, 02:40 PM	#17
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft I will use a oil seal in place of the packing when I rebuild it. __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544



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07-09-2015, 12:41 PM	#18
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft Still no luck finding a used or reasonable priced replacement Posted via Mobile Device

07-09-2015, 01:16 PM	#19
mphudak Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 196	Re: Look at this shaft Post over on oldgmctrucks.com or stovebolt.com. I'm sure you'll come across one quick. Also, there is Tom Myer's in OK (918) 542-3871 (truck salvage) and a guy out in Idaho that is parting out a large number of truck. His name is Gary Severance #208-683-2393. (he has some CL ads in the NW) I've bought quite a few parts from Gary over they years. He doesn't do email and may require payment via money order/certified check. Great guy, old school and pretty much has anything you could ever need (except hydramatic parts, myself and one other guy bought him out on what he had). Prices are very reasonable, as is his shipping (at cost). __________________ 55.1 GMC Suburban Hydramatic

07-09-2015, 03:13 PM	#21
dwcsr Hollister Road Co. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 6,134	Re: Look at this shaft I came up empty on this one, The part number fits 47-54 1/2 through 1.5T so you have a wide range to shop in

07-09-2015, 03:59 PM	#22
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft Agreed. Thanks for looking. __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

07-09-2015, 07:41 PM	#23
55dude Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tacoma wa. Posts: 1,037	Re: Look at this shaft put a wanted ad on craigslist!

07-15-2015, 06:55 AM	#24
pvienneau Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 695	Re: Look at this shaft Found one on Ebay that was sitting on the shelf or in a moist area. Was covered with surface rust. Cleaned it up. No on to the next part needed. Attached Images __________________ Pat 1949 unmolested Indy Farm Deluxe AD 1949 Standard 4 speed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=581544

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