Old ads

[Ozzy2013]

So why are there so many old ads still posted?Went through looking for a few things and some are from 09 just curious why we have them cluttering up the area?

[Steven R]

I agree it makes it hard when you want to search, you get excited you found something only to find it 8 years ago. Also there seems to be alot of posting of the same ad minutes apart. 3 postings of the same thing... I dont mean to hijack.

would be nice to see a time dump like 1 year so something. Just a thought

[68bowtie]

lots of us like to see what things sell for. i do think people should mark when it's sold. there are forum rules about redundant listings i'm sure.

[Steven R]

I really didn't think of it from that angle, I can see you point.

[special-K]

Are we talking ads (like what I'm looking at up top?) or listings on the parts board? If the parts board, this site is primarily a resource site, so even the parts board makes a great reference place for value in parts...or even pictures of parts. Just be observant of date, as with any search result. Many parts sell right away or within a week, so you will always be pulling up sold items and you just have to sift through the results. I've listed parts that never sold that I still have. I just let it drift back and I never know when someone might stumble on it and contact me. If I was really trying to sell it I would keep bringing it back to the to. What I don't understand is why people pull up a non-current listing and reply in the thread as if the seller would still be checking the listing regularly. The thing to do is send a PM. If there is a deal to be made, then post in the thread so the seller can post that it has been sold. There is a rule for multi-posts as well as bringing ad to the top to often. We are also asked to not hog up the first page with consecutive listings. Just simple rules for those who are less considerate of others.

A few simple rules to a better parts board:

*Always post in first and last post item is sold. I type that in bold capitals right after the price in first post, since so many don't read through a thread.

*Leave asking price up for a good reference for your fellow members. If a different price has been negotiated in private message that is no one's business but the seller's and buyer's. The seller can post actual sale price if they want, but the original price still makes a good reference point. There is no absolute set price on anything.

[mike16]

the rule on other forums is that all adds are dropped after 30 days and you must repost them on the 31st day. that eliminates the bump rules. and eliminates the frustration of reading the entire add to find out the part was sold two years ago. It nutralises shills in the croud who bump adds to the top as a favor to the OP.

another effective add rule is that, in addition to a manitory price, contact information is limited to a PM,a phone number or an email address. No ongoing dialogas or replies to the add. That gets abusive as a means of bumping the add back to the top too.

Also. and this is my own opinion.we should not be charged to be permitted to post adds. I relise it funds the forum but we all see the many and various ways people try to slip in an add of some sort as a reply to someone elses origonal post. it is observed alot and isnot an indication of wrong doing or unscrupulousness but a response to frustration that surrounds the use of the advertising. I too amguilty of this but what to do?

I dont know what the solution is but its frustrating to want to sell or buy parts only to find out you cant . It defeats a major attraction to this website. Loosen up the criterion for allowing people to place adds and maybe stop charging people to place adds. I would buy 100 parts through this forum befor going on ebay. But I cant and dont because the advertising criterion. I stiil get what I need but dont feel comfortable bypassing the system to achieve it. a level playing field is fair to all.

my opinion only but the first two recomendations really work well on other sites.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by mike16

the rule on other forums is that all adds are dropped after 30 days and you must repost them on the 31st day. that eliminates the bump rules. and eliminates the frustration of reading the entire add to find out the part was sold two years ago. It nutralises shills in the croud who bump adds to the top as a favor to the OP.

another effective add rule is that, in addition to a manitory price, contact information is limited to a PM,a phone number or an email address. No ongoing dialogas or replies to the add. That gets abusive as a means of bumping the add back to the top too.

Also. and this is my own opinion.we should not be charged to be permitted to post adds. I relise it funds the forum but we all see the many and various ways people try to slip in an add of some sort as a reply to someone elses origonal post. it is observed alot and isnot an indication of wrong doing or unscrupulousness but a response to frustration that surrounds the use of the advertising. I too amguilty of this but what to do?

I dont know what the solution is but its frustrating to want to sell or buy parts only to find out you cant . It defeats a major attraction to this website. Loosen up the criterion for allowing people to place adds and maybe stop charging people to place adds. I would buy 100 parts through this forum befor going on ebay. But I cant and dont because the advertising criterion. I stiil get what I need but dont feel comfortable bypassing the system to achieve it. a level playing field is fair to all.

my opinion only but the first two recomendations really work well on other sites.

Sounds like other forums should follow our lead. I see nothing here that would be an improvement. This proves we are the best reference site for these trucks, not that I've never felt that once I've read a post or two elsewhere. Sorry, but this has been my experience. As mentioned, we can go back to old posts to gain values...weigh prices for parts good to mint against each other. When we search up threads do we not know we will be reaching back in time? For every plus there is a minus. If we deleted unsold part threads after 30 days and a member doesn't re-post, we lose the ability to buy that part. Our system allows us the chance. I have seen old threads brought back and thought, "You expect that part to still be available?", only to see the seller reply, "Yes, I do still have that", or, "That sold, but I have another one I'd sell".
It's so simple there is no need to idiot-proof. We come here to read, right? You are reading right now, right? Ok, so when you pull up a thread from search just "read" the date. This will absolutely eliminate the frustration of replying to old posts only to find part was sold. Plus, if people post "sold" in the thread (not a rule, just common courtesy) it would also save that frustration for those who don't think to check the date/ I see the same people not read the thread on current listings and just post "I'll take it" when the part had obviously already been sold, had they glanced their way down the thread. Why look so stupid when all that needs to be done is read the posts?

BTW, this thread doesn't even belong here. This section is for 67-72 related topics only. This site is made up of several forums with specific purposes. This topic applies to all year truck parts sales and there are places to post such content to benefit all...if they read.

As far as subscribe to sell goes, yes these sites obviously need money to run, but the purpose of this policy was created to help protect it's members from scammers...and apparently it works. We used to have scammers hope on here for a quick buck, then disappear. The measly $25 seems to kept them away. $2.08 a month for unlimited classified listings seems very reasonable. One Sunday in the local paper costs more than $25 and this is a place to sell to a 100% targeted group...thousands of GM truck people.

[Liz]

Originally Posted by Ozzy2013

So why are there so many old ads still posted?Went through looking for a few things and some are from 09 just curious why we have them cluttering up the area?

Two main reasons..

1. We simply do not have the time or manpower to check every thread every day. Letting the site auto remove them would kill a ton of the knowledge base as well.

2. It is a good tool for pricing and history of parts. That is a very big plus for many members to be able to go back and compare

[mike16]

Originally Posted by special-K

Sounds like other forums should follow our lead. I see nothing here that would be an improvement. This proves we are the best reference site for these trucks,



it is a good forum, thats not being desputed. but the thirty day rule does work and excellently in other forums too.





not that I've never felt that once I've read a post or two elsewhere. Sorry, but this has been my experience. As mentioned, we can go back to old posts to gain values...weigh prices for parts good to mint against each other. When we search up threads do we not know we will be reaching back in time?



price comparisons based on OBO prices are not reliable.I.ve never done price comparisons using adds brcause the for sale price is very rearly the sold price. I dont know what stuff sells for because Ive never seen "sold"parts prices posted. We know we're aware that some adds are old. I think we deserve that much credit. the problem is that many people maybe contact the seller only to find out the part was sols over a year ago.

I've never seen a part that was "sold" marked "sold" and the sale price included after the sale. not once. so I dont know how usefull that feature would be to others if it existed. I too am a statistical sample of one.




For every plus there is a minus. If we deleted unsold part threads after 30 days and a member doesn't re-post, we lose the ability to buy that part.


"we" dont delete the unsold parts threads. its done automaticaly as a mechanism. If it does not sell ;its upon the OP to renew his add. This does really work! There is vertualy no effort to renewing an add. The current method has enourmous benifits too I agree. but fresh adds coause products to rotate through. A new add every 30 days gives us all the current market value of a part +/- . we chose to lose the ability to buy a part when we dont buy it . Its not the markets fault or a flaw. its the free market itself in action. the mechanism levels the playing field for all. also... if a part does not sell 'then' after 31 days the seller has the option to renew the add with the current price or a lower price to move it more quickly , makes the part more affordable to more of us here. 30 day rule keeps this hobby affordble to all of us




Our system allows us the chance. I have seen old threads brought back and thought, "You expect that part to still be available?", only to see the seller reply, "Yes, I do still have that", or, "That sold, but I have another one I'd sell".
It's so simple there is no need to idiot-proof. We come here to read, right? You are reading right now, right? Ok, so when you pull up a thread from search just "read" the date. This will absolutely eliminate the frustration of replying to old posts only to find part was sold.


so does the 30 day rule. only there is no confusion or uncertainty. its a new add because its there. Can you imagine scrolling through old ebay auctions to find what is selling now or what sold back in 98. My nostalgia is for my truck. I dont spend alot of time in th adds section of any forum and prefere not to.I do a "search" Just my opinion.




Plus, if people post "sold" in the thread (not a rule, just common courtesy) it would also save that frustration for those who don't think to check the date/ I see the same people not read the thread on current listings and just post "I'll take it" when the part had obviously already been sold, had they glanced their way down the thread. Why look so stupid when all that needs to be done is read the posts?




and if the post is 30 days old or yonger this is all eliminated. time is saved and frustration you pointed out , is averted. If the part is sold then there should be a responsability or as a courtesy to mark that part sold. Nobody looks stupid. All I can say is that in my own limited opinion, the time period limitation rule works. For daily papers, ebay, craigs list etc etc. And in each case where it works it is upon the individual to renew his add. and among forums where its employed it works very well too. Very few scammers will come on board if they have to rene thier adds repeatedly .

BTW, this thread doesn't even belong here. This section is for 67-72 related topics only. This site is made up of several forums with specific purposes. This topic applies to all year truck parts sales and there are places to post such content to benefit all...if they read.


I would agree with you here as well but hey its a good thread and we are all just expressing our opinion of what works very well....elsewhere.


As far as subscribe to sell goes, yes these sites obviously need money to run, but the purpose of this policy was created to help protect it's members from scammers...and apparently it works. We used to have scammers hope on here for a quick buck, then disappear. The measly $25 seems to kept them away. $2.08 a month for unlimited classified listings seems very reasonable. One Sunday in the local paper costs more than $25 and this is a place to sell to a 100% targeted group...thousands of GM truck people.

I cant despute anything you state here. Just sharing my own observations of what works elsewhere. I have been to alot of forums where scammers abound. Its a symptom of a badly mannaged forum. This I am absolutely certain of

Nuff said at my end

[special-K]

I'll make it simple. Just read the date.

You don't see old Ebay "listings", not ads, because they charge for each and every individual listing that runs a set amount of time. Basically you rent a spot for x amount of days. Try selling parts all year long there for $25 flat fee. And, if you let your subscription here run out and someone pulls up something you listed that never sold and they buy it, you just sold that from a FREE current listing.

If you don't need to sell stuff all year long, only have a few things to clear out, there's even a cheaper subscription. Not sure what it even is, but a bet you'll never miss it if you spend it. I don't even connect the $25 to selling. It is a subscription to a totally interactive magazine with more info (than anywhere on the planet) on what I am specifically into (and more) where I make friends regularly all over America, and beyond, where my subscription provides me with free classifieds to buy/sell/trade/search and even complain about it if I want to. If you can read this you can read a date on a listing you are quite aware could be from a good ways back. I just sold a pair of wheels to someone who saw my OLD listing. I guarantee if you subscribe you can have the cost right back in your pocket in a matter of days, if the only reason you subscribe is to sell. I don't know how other sites get their money, or Craigslist. But, a swap meet, flea market, newspaper, consignment shop...anywhere you go charges you to sell. You get a day or weekend to load it up, drive there, unload/set-up, hope to sell to a bunch of low-ballers, pack up what doesn't sell, drive back, unload, stash, and hope you made it worthwhile. With local classifieds you have to have people come to your house, hope they show or at least come when they say, hope they buy iy so you didn't waste your time, etc.
Nothing is for everyone. I don't need people to agree with me. But, I also have to offer a broader perspective to those who lack it. I've already looked at this in the way you are before you ever joined. In the end, do what suits you. It's your right

[CG]

Personally I get a kick out of someone responding to a five year old ad, and its even more fun when others join in hoping to get a deal =)


And Im not being an azz, Ive done it myself more than once lol.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by CG

Personally I get a kick out of someone responding to a five year old ad, and its even more fun when others join in hoping to get a deal =)


And Im not being an azz, Ive done it myself more than once lol.

And by being allowed the opportunity to make this mistake, did you learn something? Something to prevent the same mistake from being repeated? That's right, by not over protecting us from ourselves and allowing some latitude to bump our heads we learn where we need to duck so it won't happen again...or when there is no protection... since it can't be everywhere all the time. It's a good thing to mess up. It teaches us what caused the problem so we can identify it next time. It teaches us what "not to do" and it teaches us what "to do". It's like blowing your motor because you never look at the oil pressure gauge. Wouldn't you be looking from then on?