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WB72 · 09-12-2003, 10:32 AM

could I just cut and weld mt pan hard bar when I lower my truck 3 or 4 inches?

sneakysnake · 09-12-2003, 10:34 AM

I just made the bracket on the frame reach where it needed to, didnt alter the strength of the bar.

Fred T · 09-12-2003, 03:28 PM

It's high strength steel. You can weld it, but you don't want to unless you get it heat-treated.

chaptr2 · 09-12-2003, 04:25 PM

You can buy an adjustable pan hard bar from one of the venders. I don't think it is that expensive and it will make the fit much easier to achieve.

chevykid1969 · 09-12-2003, 06:25 PM

Sorry to but in but do you need a new one when lowering 4 or 5 in the rear

Hotrod70C10 · 09-12-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by chevykid1969
Sorry to but in but do you need a new one when lowering 4 or 5 in the rear

Yes for 4 inches or less... If you go 5 or more go with the whole tracking arm kit. If i could do it all over again I would have just bought the kit since i'm going to lower my rear more in the near future.

NSANE68!!! · 09-12-2003, 06:46 PM

I cut mine sleeved it and welded it. Just as strong, maybe stronger. Cost me $2

*67Fleetsidedream* · 09-12-2003, 07:06 PM

If my truck was lowered I would cut and weld. Or take it to some who can.... High strength steel???? Says what and who?

WB72 · 09-14-2003, 05:14 PM

Is it really High Strength Steel?

Longhorn Man · 09-14-2003, 06:42 PM

I don't know how strong they can be, when i bought the GMC mine was both bent and broken in two.

pissonNOS · 09-14-2003, 06:57 PM

what are the panhard bars ? im confused now

Longhorn Man · 09-14-2003, 07:22 PM

If you were to look from direcly behinde the truck (coil models only) there is a bar goinf grom the top of the diff to the frame. That is the panhard bar.

pissonNOS · 09-15-2003, 01:32 AM

thats runs from the front to back of the vehicle right . not litteraly the length of the vehicle but the same direction?

WB72 · 09-15-2003, 09:51 AM

It really goes from the Rear end (Differential) to the frame. The pan hard bar goes from the drivers side of the frame to just about the center of the diff. The width way, not the length.

pissonNOS · 09-15-2003, 01:55 PM

thank you the ones i described are control arms no?

lukecp · 09-15-2003, 02:11 PM

Yup...you described contorl arms (also known as trailing arms

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Red68 · 09-15-2003, 05:22 PM

I lowered my truck 4" and installed an adjustable bar, from what I could tell there was very little difference compared to the old one, maybe 1/2" or less in length. If I had it to do over again I probably would not replace it and save a few bucks.

NSANE68!!! · 09-15-2003, 05:41 PM

Yeah, just anything over 6" is when it needs it. I lengthened mine 1 & 1/4" over stock. But mine is bagged and probably 8 or 9" lower than stock.

chevykid1969 · 09-15-2003, 05:43 PM

Ok i am stuck. i a getting ready to lowwer mine 3/5 do i need to get a panhard bar or not . they seem to be a bit pricy.

NSANE68!!! · 09-15-2003, 06:05 PM

That's right at the brink of a yes or no.
I say no.
Lower it then see how far it shifts over

09-12-2003, 10:32 AM	#1
WB72 Before and After Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Leduc, Alberta CANADA Posts: 632	pan hard bar could I just cut and weld mt pan hard bar when I lower my truck 3 or 4 inches? __________________ Not Grandpa's C-20 anymore... 383 Stroker 425HP, 485Ft/Lbs Lowered 3.5" Front / 5" Rear 66,000 miles. Alberta, CANADA

09-12-2003, 03:28 PM	#3
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	It's high strength steel. You can weld it, but you don't want to unless you get it heat-treated. __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

09-12-2003, 04:25 PM	#4
chaptr2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Olalla, WA Posts: 705	You can buy an adjustable pan hard bar from one of the venders. I don't think it is that expensive and it will make the fit much easier to achieve. __________________ This is only my opinion and it is subject to change. 70 GMC Short box stepside Blown 388 Stroker 72 K/5 Blazer 350/SM465/205

09-12-2003, 06:46 PM	#7
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	I cut mine sleeved it and welded it. Just as strong, maybe stronger. Cost me $2 __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

09-14-2003, 05:14 PM	#9
WB72 Before and After Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Leduc, Alberta CANADA Posts: 632	Is it really High Strength Steel? __________________ Not Grandpa's C-20 anymore... 383 Stroker 425HP, 485Ft/Lbs Lowered 3.5" Front / 5" Rear 66,000 miles. Alberta, CANADA

09-12-2003, 10:34 AM	#2
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	I just made the bracket on the frame reach where it needed to, didnt alter the strength of the bar.

09-12-2003, 06:25 PM	#5
chevykid1969 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Knightdale,North Carolina Posts: 377	Sorry to but in but do you need a new one when lowering 4 or 5 in the rear

09-12-2003, 07:06 PM	#8
67Fleetsidedream Wiseass secured himself a BAN Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: MOON!!! Posts: 2,282	If my truck was lowered I would cut and weld. Or take it to some who can.... High strength steel???? Says what and who?

09-14-2003, 06:42 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I don't know how strong they can be, when i bought the GMC mine was both bent and broken in two.

09-14-2003, 06:57 PM	#11
pissonNOS senior member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: fort macleod alberta Posts: 2,770	what are the panhard bars ? im confused now __________________ 69 GMC bagged

09-14-2003, 07:22 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	If you were to look from direcly behinde the truck (coil models only) there is a bar goinf grom the top of the diff to the frame. That is the panhard bar.

09-15-2003, 01:32 AM	#13
pissonNOS senior member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: fort macleod alberta Posts: 2,770	thats runs from the front to back of the vehicle right . not litteraly the length of the vehicle but the same direction? __________________ 69 GMC bagged

09-15-2003, 09:51 AM	#14
WB72 Before and After Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Leduc, Alberta CANADA Posts: 632	It really goes from the Rear end (Differential) to the frame. The pan hard bar goes from the drivers side of the frame to just about the center of the diff. The width way, not the length. __________________ Not Grandpa's C-20 anymore... 383 Stroker 425HP, 485Ft/Lbs Lowered 3.5" Front / 5" Rear 66,000 miles. Alberta, CANADA

09-15-2003, 01:55 PM	#15
pissonNOS senior member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: fort macleod alberta Posts: 2,770	thank you the ones i described are control arms no? __________________ 69 GMC bagged

09-15-2003, 02:11 PM	#16
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Yup...you described contorl arms (also known as trailing arms ) __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg



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09-15-2003, 05:22 PM	#17
Red68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Rhome, TX Posts: 209	I lowered my truck 4" and installed an adjustable bar, from what I could tell there was very little difference compared to the old one, maybe 1/2" or less in length. If I had it to do over again I probably would not replace it and save a few bucks. __________________ 1968 C10 LWB 327 bored 40 over, RHS heads, KB pistons, Eagle rods, Edlebrock carb & intake 1968 C10 flatbed 307 w/ 4 spd manual (dads old ride) 1936 1/2 tn pickup, 400sb 350 turbo (partially restored) 1949 1/2 tn, needs complete restore (future project) 1969 Chevy impala 4 dr no post (wifes future car) 2010 GMC Serria 4x4 crew, leveling kit

09-15-2003, 05:41 PM	#18
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	Yeah, just anything over 6" is when it needs it. I lengthened mine 1 & 1/4" over stock. But mine is bagged and probably 8 or 9" lower than stock. __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

09-15-2003, 05:43 PM	#19
chevykid1969 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Knightdale,North Carolina Posts: 377	Ok i am stuck. i a getting ready to lowwer mine 3/5 do i need to get a panhard bar or not . they seem to be a bit pricy.

09-15-2003, 06:05 PM	#20
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	That's right at the brink of a yes or no. I say no. Lower it then see how far it shifts over __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

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