What's needed to swap to a 327?

[scuderia]

Just doing some research... Was by a welding shop the other day in my '64 Vette and fella tells me he's got a 327 like mine that he'd sell. Anyway got me thinking that it might be cool to have the same motors in both my car and truck. Currently I've got a 292 with sm465 behind it. I still have the original passenger side motor mount bracket as my truck was originally a base 250. If I'm correct the 327 should bolt in using that one?
What all's needed? Thanks

[padresag]

you win the prize. that is what you need and there is always someone looking for that 292 perch. there are there incidentals such as hoses and exhaust. rad mounting is different between i6 and v8. throttle bellcrank on the firewall will be a different length. the ball stud for the z/bar is different but may be on the eng .
ron

[scuderia]

Originally Posted by padresag

you win the prize. that is what you need and there is always someone looking for that 292 perch. there are there incidentals such as hoses and exhaust. rad mounting is different between i6 and v8. throttle bellcrank on the firewall will be a different length. the ball stud for the z/bar is different but may be on the eng .
ron

will my radiator work or do I need a specific V8 Rad? Oh, and thanks btw : )

[padresag]

it will make a difference if you are going to run a shroud. believe that the i6 mounts lower on that front c/member and the v8 mounts up on top.
ron

[The Rocknrod]

Are you keeping the old transmission?

[padresag]

Originally Posted by scuderia

Just doing some research... Was by a welding shop the other day in my '64 Vette and fella tells me he's got a 327 like mine that he'd sell. Anyway got me thinking that it might be cool to have the same motors in both my car and truck. Currently I've got a 292 with sm465 behind it. I still have the original passenger side motor mount bracket as my truck was originally a base 250. If I'm correct the 327 should bolt in using that one?
What all's needed? Thanks

b/housing, flywheel and clutch assy are all interchangeable. some 292 flywheels have larger flywheel mounting bolts
ron

[Chevy Fleetside]

I have all the parts you will need for that swap. Talk to me about it next time you see me, or just let me know when you will be working in your shop and I will stop by.

[scuderia]

Originally Posted by Chevy Fleetside

I have all the parts you will need for that swap. Talk to me about it next time you see me, or just let me know when you will be working in your shop and I will stop by.

Thanks a bunch.. problem is I'm not sure how long my 292 is going to keep going (got a bit of a knock.) and I can't trust that the 327 is anymore than a core...
Think I'll need to find a running 6 to toss in for the time being and then if I buy the 327 I'll go through it and collect the needed bits. If you know of a good six anywhere I'm ready to buy. Can't afford to have the truck down for more than a couple weekends.

[Chevy Fleetside]

Originally Posted by scuderia

Thanks a bunch.. problem is I'm not sure how long my 292 is going to keep going (got a bit of a knock.) and I can't trust that the 327 is anymore than a core...
Think I'll need to find a running 6 to toss in for the time being and then if I buy the 327 I'll go through it and collect the needed bits. If you know of a good six anywhere I'm ready to buy. Can't afford to have the truck down for more than a couple weekends.

Can't say that I do. I only have V8's. One in my truck now and one waiting to be put in while I rebuild the 283 in my truck.

[Captainfab]

I believe most if not all 292's had the larger radiator typical for a V8. So you may not need to change the radiator. If you post a pic we can tell you for certain.

Originally Posted by scuderia

will my radiator work or do I need a specific V8 Rad? Oh, and thanks btw : )

[scuderia]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

I believe most if not all 292's had the larger radiator typical for a V8. So you may not need to change the radiator. If you post a pic we can tell you for certain.

Truck came with out motor and trans but was a stripper base model. Would have had a 250 so likely I would have the radiator that came with.

[TJ's Chevy]

How bad IS the knock on the 292? Lot of times that Knock is mistaken for noisy lifters in the morning. I put almost 1500 miles of Hard driving on my 50 year old 292 before it really started misfiring bad. lol Still...it Wouldn't give in.

[scuderia]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

How bad IS the knock on the 292? Lot of times that Knock is mistaken for noisy lifters in the morning. I put almost 1500 miles of Hard driving on my 50 year old 292 before it really started misfiring bad. lol Still...it Wouldn't give in.

Well, it's got both ticks and a knock... I've been driving it for a couple months and it runs okay. Starts easy and doesn't smoke. I tried addressing the ticking (adjusted the valves, replaced the fuel pump, replaced the intake and exhaust gaskets) and it's same as ever. Compression is all 120-140. As for the knock it really wasn't very pronounced but I was doing other things yesterday and found the flywheel cover in a box of crap and decided to throw it on now the knock is more evident. The video is before the cover install.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKUgA1ZRWP0

[TJ's Chevy]

Motor is probably fine. Here's what mine sounded like. lol On a 30 degree morning it sounded like a cummins. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQA55DiiGg

[scuderia]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

Motor is probably fine. Here's what mine sounded like. lol On a 30 degree morning it sounded like a cummins. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQA55DiiGg

I think you might be right TJ. I'm just going to keep driving it, what's the worse that can happen?
BTW, what tranny you running in your truck? I like the SM465 around town as I can spend most of my time in third but it's kind of ridiculous on the freeway. I would suspect that my truck has the stock 3:73 gears but it really doesn't seem to like going much more than 55-60. It'll go 70 but I feel mean doing it. Currently I shift at 7 if I use first. 15 2nd 30-35 3rd and well you know the rest. That sound like 3:73's to you ?

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by scuderia

I think you might be right TJ. I'm just going to keep driving it, what's the worse that can happen?
BTW, what tranny you running in your truck? I like the SM465 around town as I can spend most of my time in third but it's kind of ridiculous on the freeway. I would suspect that my truck has the stock 3:73 gears but it really doesn't seem to like going much more than 55-60. It'll go 70 but I feel mean doing it. Currently I shift at 7 if I use first. 15 2nd 30-35 3rd and well you know the rest. That sound like 3:73's to you ?

Yeah, sounds about right. Its been awhile since I drove my 66 cause I'm restoring it. That video is a few months old. 65 for me was around 2900 RPM and with the headers and 4 barrel I had on the engine it was easy to be at that speed. I had the thing up to 80 one time. lol Had to slow down cause things were getting scary on the 50 year old suspension. haha. I had the Sm420 in mine. Same tranny, just not as beefy and reverse is on the other side. I shifted mine at 4000 from 2nd to 3rd and from 3rd to 4th. lol Miss that old motor. Here's an idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoiM0nIA_7c

[Captainfab]

That is the larger radiator typically used with the V8's and the I6's with HD cooling.

Originally Posted by scuderia

Truck came with out motor and trans but was a stripper base model. Would have had a 250 so likely I would have the radiator that came with.

With the SM420 and SM465, 1st gear is not usually used in normal everyday driving....there is no need. Just start out in 2nd. First gear is typically used for low speed maneuverability and pulling heavy loads. This is with original gearing and near stock size tires. Some guys have switched their rear gears to 3.07's for a more comfortable highway rpm, so then 1st gear is typically used for normal driving.

Originally Posted by scuderia

I think you might be right TJ. I'm just going to keep driving it, what's the worse that can happen?
BTW, what tranny you running in your truck? I like the SM465 around town as I can spend most of my time in third but it's kind of ridiculous on the freeway. I would suspect that my truck has the stock 3:73 gears but it really doesn't seem to like going much more than 55-60. It'll go 70 but I feel mean doing it. Currently I shift at 7 if I use first. 15 2nd 30-35 3rd and well you know the rest. That sound like 3:73's to you ?