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Old 10-14-2015, 01:20 PM   #1
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Frame repair critque please

Hi guys, this is my first post to this forum. I am an American living in Austria. I just bought a 1983 C10 to restore. I need a bit of America here.

Anyway, I tore the truck down the frame and saw some shady weld work done by the previous owner. I wire wheeled the frame and found the frame was cracked in a few spots around the steering box. It obviously cracked one time already as the previous owner gobbed some weld to the frame.

I cleaned most of the ****ty looking welds up, v'd the cracks and welded them up. I then plated over it on the outside and top, as well as fish plated the cracks that were above the engine crossmember.

I wanted peoples opinions on my work so far and if I should do anymore plating on the frame. I was thinking of plating the bottom inside of the frame around the crossmember, but there will be a gap where the crossmember is bolted to the frame. I am not sure if that will create a stress area on the frame.

Please let me know what you think of my work thus far and if i should do any additional plating. I want to get this right the first time, as I am having the frame powder coated next week.

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Old 10-14-2015, 02:31 PM   #2
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Re: Frame repair critque please

You are already fixing it better than most of the repairs I have seen done. Chances are you will never be as hard on that truck as the previous owner was.
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Old 10-14-2015, 02:34 PM   #3
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You are already fixing it better than most of the repairs I have seen done. Chances are you will never be as hard on that truck as the previous owner was.
Thanks for the feed back. My only concern is if I am reinforcing the frame in the right spots and not creating any stress spots on the frame.

Do you think it is necessary to plate the bottom of the frame if I have done the outside and top?

I just dont want to get it powder coated and then find it cracked again.

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Old 10-14-2015, 05:16 PM   #4
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If you welded the crack and then plated it on one side, that will be strong enough. The only thing I would have done different is I would have plated the whole area with one piece and plug welded the middle of the fish plate. You wil probably get a lot of opions of how you should do it but your repair is good don't worry about plating both sides.
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Old 10-14-2015, 05:48 PM   #5
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Re: Frame repair critque please

Did you happen to drill the ends of the cracks out? I'd hate to see them start running again after you paint or coat it.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:33 PM   #6
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Re: Frame repair critque please

Looks pretty good so far.
Offroad Design makes braces or gussets to keep the steering box from ripping the frame out.
http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog/steeringkit.htm
If you look em over you can probably fab up your own rather than pay EU Customs for importing the ORD parts.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:57 PM   #7
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Re: Frame repair critque please

If he beveled the cracks before welding them and had good enough heat and penetration those cracks are never going to be a problem again. I've fixed tons of these frames when I was in the body shop.
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:26 PM   #8
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Re: Frame repair critque please

Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. Yes all of the cracks were v'd and welded as well as the crack being drilled. I added some more plating to the outside of the frame because I saw I did not cover one hairline crack. But i also wanted to tie the top plate and the outside plate together some more. Pics are attached.

Tomorrow I will plate the inside bottom of the frame (going to have to leave a gap where the crossmember is) but I think all of this plating should do the trick, hopefully.

Let me know if you think there should be anything else done, if not its off to powder coating!

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Old 10-17-2015, 04:00 PM   #9
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I made one final plating on the inside bottom of the frame. I think the frame should be solid now, off to powder coat!
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Old 10-17-2015, 11:59 PM   #10
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It looks good to me,You gotta remember those these trucks was used as work tucks so things are gonna happen over time with them.
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Old 10-18-2015, 01:56 AM   #11
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It looks good to me,You gotta remember those these trucks was used as work tucks so things are gonna happen over time with them.
I say it was a design flaw.
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Re: Frame repair critque please

Thanks for posting I just found out my frame is cracked in this area. I like that link for the brace.
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Re: Frame repair critque please

I think my 110 welder should handle this job, what do you guys think? OP did you finish this repair?
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:20 AM   #14
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Re: Frame repair critque please

Yes I did. I think I moved the rest of it to my build thread. "American in Austria build". Your 110 should be just fine to make this repair.
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Thanks 44.
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Old 01-21-2016, 07:21 PM   #16
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A 110 welder should be adequate. If you don't weld much, do some practice first.
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