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ranger danger · 10-30-2015, 07:35 PM

Its a craigslist add that says he stacked 2 frames. Why? Im not trying to be arrogant, I'm really curious!

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2 frames ( stacked )

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5248252166.html

**Stocker** · 10-30-2015, 07:41 PM

That's a new one on me. Easy way to do a ~4" lift? Maybe he thinks it's a stiffer / stronger frame? (maybe it is, I dunno) It might be a good deal on a good truck -- I just don't know...

ranger danger · 10-30-2015, 07:45 PM

YA!!! Go State of Jefferson !!!!

**special-K** · 10-30-2015, 09:09 PM

Because they take up a lot of space and it fit right on top of the other? A way to lift and keep a lower center of gravity? One frame was rusty and owner was too lazy to remove it? Heck if I know...I was joking with my reasons. BUT... I have heard of it before. I think it is a way to lift where they don't play hockey

**jeffahart** · 10-30-2015, 09:19 PM

Well, if two heads are better than one... then clearly, two frames are better than one!

ERASER5 · 10-30-2015, 09:50 PM

This an old school poor mans lift. It is also not a great idea. Yes the frames just stack and are welded together. At least partly welded. Twisting of the frame tears these thing up and then you get shifting.

To give the devil his due, after market lifts were not always available. Were there is a will there is a way. Safety standards didn't always exist either. Just ask Uncle Stumpy.

andrewmp6 · 10-31-2015, 12:48 AM

I have seen mud trucks they used double or even triple frames.To me it screams corners cut just like that diamond plate over the passenger side rocker.

**special-K** · 10-31-2015, 07:55 AM

Not a terribly bad truck. But to restore it you're looking at two frame-offs

ryanroo · 10-31-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Not a terribly bad truck. But to restore it you're looking at two frame-offs

Orange Crate · 11-04-2015, 04:48 PM

What? You don't carry a spare?

**special-K** · 11-05-2015, 06:43 AM

That could be a frustrating truck. I'd hate to do a frame-off just to end up with the same old truck sitting lower. The good part would be when you see a WTB for a 67-72 4wd frame. Call them up and say "Help me pull this out and I'll let you buy it"

86454k30 · 11-09-2015, 11:40 PM

Honestly there are a couple reasons for this. There was a 4x4 shop here in Spokane that started out in the 80's he did about 4 or 5 double from 73-80 K5 and K10/K20 trucks. He still has the one he originally built, though the current build is considerably cleaner than before, you can't even tell there is a seam.
Reasons:
1) You automatically get 5" of lift...approximately
2) Lower lift 4" suspension plus double frame= 40" tires with excellent driveline angles, 6" lift + double frame=44" tires.

Its pretty much an 80's thing IMO, definitely not easy or cheap to do it correctly.

My 2 cents of course

**special-K** · 11-10-2015, 08:10 AM

A very expensive and involved body lift.

sixnineK5 · 11-29-2015, 02:25 PM

This used to be popular with the show truck crowd a long time ago. I remember seeing a lot of these trucks in 4 wd magazines. Especially those with hydraulic bed/cab lifts. Seems like a lot of work though for a lift including the extra weight.

10-30-2015, 07:41 PM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,559	Re: Why would you do this? That's a new one on me. Easy way to do a ~4" lift? Maybe he thinks it's a stiffer / stronger frame? (maybe it is, I dunno) It might be a good deal on a good truck -- I just don't know... __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

10-30-2015, 07:45 PM	#3
ranger danger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Vacaville CA Posts: 896	Re: Why would you do this? YA!!! Go State of Jefferson !!!! __________________ 1969 C20 Suburban "Rez Dog" Rebuild America one testicle at a time. US Army 1977-1979 12B Combat Engineer US Navy 1979-1983 Gunners Mate Guns (GMG) NRA Life Member Unrestrained Children in back seats cause Accidents. Unrestrained Accidents in back seats cause Children.

10-30-2015, 09:09 PM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Why would you do this? Because they take up a lot of space and it fit right on top of the other? A way to lift and keep a lower center of gravity? One frame was rusty and owner was too lazy to remove it? Heck if I know...I was joking with my reasons. BUT... I have heard of it before. I think it is a way to lift where they don't play hockey __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-30-2015, 09:19 PM	#5
jeffahart Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,897	Re: Why would you do this? Well, if two heads are better than one... then clearly, two frames are better than one! __________________ White K20

10-30-2015, 09:50 PM	#6
ERASER5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,859	Re: Why would you do this? This an old school poor mans lift. It is also not a great idea. Yes the frames just stack and are welded together. At least partly welded. Twisting of the frame tears these thing up and then you get shifting. To give the devil his due, after market lifts were not always available. Were there is a will there is a way. Safety standards didn't always exist either. Just ask Uncle Stumpy. __________________ '70 GMC C1500 LWB Power disc brakes. WooHoo! Posi 6 Lug Dana 60

10-31-2015, 12:48 AM	#7
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: Why would you do this? I have seen mud trucks they used double or even triple frames.To me it screams corners cut just like that diamond plate over the passenger side rocker.

10-31-2015, 07:55 AM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Why would you do this? Not a terribly bad truck. But to restore it you're looking at two frame-offs __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-04-2015, 04:48 PM	#10
Orange Crate Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Under the Truck Dreaming Posts: 661	Re: Why would you do this? What? You don't carry a spare? __________________ 72 K20 Custom Camper, D60, 14BFF, full roller 406 TPI w custom built ECU and yes..it has tow hooks...

11-05-2015, 06:43 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Why would you do this? That could be a frustrating truck. I'd hate to do a frame-off just to end up with the same old truck sitting lower. The good part would be when you see a WTB for a 67-72 4wd frame. Call them up and say "Help me pull this out and I'll let you buy it" __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-09-2015, 11:40 PM	#12
86454k30 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 596	Re: Why would you do this? Honestly there are a couple reasons for this. There was a 4x4 shop here in Spokane that started out in the 80's he did about 4 or 5 double from 73-80 K5 and K10/K20 trucks. He still has the one he originally built, though the current build is considerably cleaner than before, you can't even tell there is a seam. Reasons: 1) You automatically get 5" of lift...approximately 2) Lower lift 4" suspension plus double frame= 40" tires with excellent driveline angles, 6" lift + double frame=44" tires. Its pretty much an 80's thing IMO, definitely not easy or cheap to do it correctly. My 2 cents of course

11-10-2015, 08:10 AM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Why would you do this? A very expensive and involved body lift. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-29-2015, 02:25 PM	#14
sixnineK5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Celeste,Tx Posts: 20	Re: Why would you do this? This used to be popular with the show truck crowd a long time ago. I remember seeing a lot of these trucks in 4 wd magazines. Especially those with hydraulic bed/cab lifts. Seems like a lot of work though for a lift including the extra weight.



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