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**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 04:29 PM

So POed. Probably didn't need them anyway, because I have a nice set, but I'd have used these, because they were perfect in every way. They did a real nice job packing to ensure no scratches, but only one problem. What a shame, these are hard to find and they jacked em up.

BigMike · 11-09-2015, 05:09 PM

Wow! Just Wow! That sucks. I'd be PO'd too. Were they insured?

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMike

Wow! Just Wow! That sucks. I'd be PO'd too. Were they insured?

Got them off Ebay/Paypal. I managed to sneak in JUST the right amount and out-bid the guy by 50 cents ($152.50) That was "lucky". I can't tell if insured, was shipped UPS.

Of course the box is bent. I don't even want to pay for shipping.

In fairness to the seller (sorta), these are as difficult to pack safely as anything. You pretty much have to put a box(es) within a box. Soft cardboard won't cut it.

MARKDTN · 11-09-2015, 05:25 PM

UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MARKDTN

UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them.

You think? I'll contact, just to see. Thanks

67ChevyRedneck · 11-09-2015, 05:30 PM

Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....

cleszkie · 11-09-2015, 05:30 PM

I always ship trim items like these in a PVC pipe with end caps, and ask sellers to do the same for me. Its the only way to do it. Cardboard boxes don't have a chance.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 05:41 PM

I just called UPS.......They're going to pick it up and determine liability from there. Thanks.

Ha!, just read ChevyRednecks post. No doubt you're right. The seller doesn't stand a chance. Chair is real confy. Prefer clothe though. Beggers can't be choosy, my parents gave it to me.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cleszkie

I always ship trim items like these in a PVC pipe with end caps, and ask sellers to do the same for me. Its the only way to do it. Cardboard boxes don't have a chance.

Understood, but you'd need at least a 6" pipe. Not they aren't available.

**too much stuff** · 11-09-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

Understood, but you'd need at least a 6" pipe. Not they aren't available.

A piece of 6" pipe looks cheap now compared to junk NOS parts. I have shipped items similar to this in smaller pvc pipe with an elbow where the bends are.
Good luck with UPS, you will need it!

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by too much stuff

A piece of 6" pipe looks cheap now compared to junk NOS parts. I have shipped items similar to this in smaller pvc pipe with an elbow where the bends are.
Good luck with UPS, you will need it!

True story..........UPS isn't going to do (*^(*. Self-interest or not, they weren't packed right. I should be covered regardless (Ebay + Paypal + 14 day return policy). With any luck I won't have to pay for shipping either.

Great idea with the elbow BTW. You wouldn't want to put in on much or you jack it up pulling it apart.

**Joesjunk** · 11-09-2015, 07:55 PM

What a shame, sorry to see your NOS parts bent up! And just my 2 cents, I HATE UPS! I see them mess up more stuff! I never ship with them unless I have no other option. The post office seems so much better. UPS sucks and they don't give a crap about your stuff. My rant, I'm done.
Good luck

Kennuck · 11-09-2015, 08:30 PM

Too bad about your NOS trim, I hope it works out for you.

I ordered these from MAR K they shipped them taped to a pc of 3/4" thick pine, then wrapped that in a cardboard sleeve and placed inside a heavy cardboard box. I guess they have lots of experience shipping stuff like this.

I also got some NOS lower trim from a member on here and he shipped them in a plastic pipe.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-09-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennuck

Too bad about your NOS trim, I hope it works out for you.

I ordered these from MAR K they shipped them taped to a pc of 3/4" thick pine, then wrapped that in a cardboard sleeve and placed inside a heavy cardboard box. I guess they have lots of experience shipping stuff like this.

I also got some NOS lower trim from a member on here and he shipped them in a plastic pipe.

I have as well. I've got a 8' pipe in my "parts room" containing upper bed moldings.

It really is a shame. They were perfect. Still haven't heard from the guy. He can't/won't be happy.

I've got another set of separators. They're beautiful. One wasn't quite straight, possibly from shipping. It's straight now for certain, I wrapped the straight portion with thick cardboard both sides. The RH has a slight bend on the edge/inside/underneath. I think it will still slide in, but want an extra, just in case.

Elliot949 · 11-09-2015, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....

And that is after jerking you around for 6 months... and the appeal...

**davischevy** · 11-09-2015, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Joesjunk

What a shame, sorry to see your NOS parts bent up! And just my 2 cents, I HATE UPS! I see them mess up more stuff! I never ship with them unless I have no other option. The post office seems so much better. UPS sucks and they don't give a crap about your stuff. My rant, I'm done.
Good luck

I'm still not sure I understand how you feel about UPS Joe.

EARNHARDT#3 · 11-09-2015, 11:09 PM

There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent.

**davischevy** · 11-09-2015, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EARNHARDT#3

There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent.

What I was thinking. But someone should still pay for the damage.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-10-2015, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EARNHARDT#3

There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent.

Probably. I don't know any at this point.

F.A.A.benny · 11-10-2015, 02:14 AM

Sucks. that's why I try to watch what I get from ebay. A lot of sellers don't know how to properly pack and use shipping boxes that are too small for the part(s). In this case. it needed to be a shipping tube or pvc. It really is the responsibility of the seller until it arrives at your doorstep to make sure that the part(s) isn't damaged. Ebay favors buyers so you should come out on top although it sucks to have to go through the hassle and still not get what you wanted. As far shipping providers go. I personally cant stand the post office. It almost seems like having a bad attitude is part of their job requirement. And they have actually lost parts I shipped even with a tracking #. Usp is ok but too expensive. FedEx ftw

**special-K** · 11-10-2015, 08:38 AM

It's clear the responsibility lies on the seller who obviously did not package these precious parts in any manner of concern what so ever. They got their money and that's all that matters. They shouldn't even be allowed to sell N.O.S. I would take this up with PayPal and get my full refund and screw the jerk who packages parts with no concern. What Ebay seller out there would not be aware of UPS's track record of denying responsibility based on insufficient packaging?

**GMCNUT** · 11-10-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time...

Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package.

Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime.

Looks like a super comfy chair you got there....

couldn't have said it better myself - UPS requires 4" of dense foam material around a packaged item before it will pay out on insurance claims. America at large is simply not told and generally doesn't know this when buying insurance. The UPS Store is the only way to fly when you care about what is coming to you because they are in charge of packaging and shipping it. PVC pipe and carpet tubes are good for shipping trim - not much else can hold up to the warehouse and truck loading throwing around the shipping companies do

**CUSTOM/10** · 11-10-2015, 01:48 PM

I'd be Heartbroken; I've been looking for a pair of those myself. A few yrs back I had a pair of rust free Cali. doors shipped to NH via Greyhound bus, and they were all dented & bent when they got here. I was sick, did a claim through Greyhound and they said "Insufficient Packaging". Whenever I ship something I made it Bomb Proof.

Gary

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-11-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MARKDTN

UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them.

So far, this turned out to be a great suggestion from a buyer's standpoint. First, unless UPS sends me a bill (likely not), then I got out of shipping costs. Second, it shows good faith.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 11-25-2015, 07:19 PM

This Ebay seller has turned out to be a treat. I contacted him three times before I heard back. The parts were delivered to him a week ago, and I contacted him again for refund status, and not a word back. He's listed items since, so safe to say I'm on ignore.

Ebay gives him until tomorrow before they process the refund. I figure a bad rating is in order.

11-09-2015, 04:29 PM	#1
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,205	Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out So POed. Probably didn't need them anyway, because I have a nice set, but I'd have used these, because they *were* perfect in every way. They did a real nice job packing to ensure no scratches, but only one problem. What a shame, these are hard to find and they jacked em up. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

11-09-2015, 05:09 PM	#2
BigMike Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita - SoCal Posts: 1,432	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out Wow! Just Wow! That sucks. I'd be PO'd too. Were they insured? __________________ Mike My 69 SWB Project Father/Son 72 Nova Project My Airbrushed RC Car Bodies

11-09-2015, 05:25 PM	#4
MARKDTN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 2,144	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out UPS is insured to at least $100. Sounds like your beef is with them. __________________ '83 K20-TPI '73 C10 '79 C10-ex-diesel(SOLD) '07 Tahoe(Son driving) '14 Suburban-DD '71 C10-current project

11-09-2015, 05:30 PM	#6
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out Honestly... don't bother. They'll conclude "insufficient packaging" and you'll have just wasted your time... Basically, unless it was boxed at a UPS store (even then they would try to find a way not to pay), it will come down to the packaging and they'll claim it wasn't sufficient to protect the package. Been through this before with UPS. Never got a dime. Looks like a super comfy chair you got there.... __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

11-09-2015, 05:30 PM	#7
cleszkie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 2,191	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out I always ship trim items like these in a PVC pipe with end caps, and ask sellers to do the same for me. Its the only way to do it. Cardboard boxes don't have a chance.

11-09-2015, 05:41 PM	#8
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,205	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out I just called UPS.......They're going to pick it up and determine liability from there. Thanks. Ha!, just read ChevyRednecks post. No doubt you're right. The seller doesn't stand a chance. Chair is real confy. Prefer clothe though. Beggers can't be choosy, my parents gave it to me. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 11-09-2015 at 05:48 PM.

11-09-2015, 07:55 PM	#12
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,691	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out What a shame, sorry to see your NOS parts bent up! And just my 2 cents, I HATE UPS! I see them mess up more stuff! I never ship with them unless I have no other option. The post office seems so much better. UPS sucks and they don't give a crap about your stuff. My rant, I'm done. Good luck __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

11-09-2015, 08:30 PM	#13
Kennuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dresden, Ontario Posts: 647	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out Too bad about your NOS trim, I hope it works out for you. I ordered these from MAR K they shipped them taped to a pc of 3/4" thick pine, then wrapped that in a cardboard sleeve and placed inside a heavy cardboard box. I guess they have lots of experience shipping stuff like this. I also got some NOS lower trim from a member on here and he shipped them in a plastic pipe. __________________ 1970 Short Wide 5.3 4L60E BlackBear tune 3:73 gears, Boyd's Tank 2.5 / 4 drop 5 lug disc brakes Vintage Air 18x8 Ridlers 255/55 frt. 18x9.5 275/60 rear

11-09-2015, 11:09 PM	#17
EARNHARDT#3 Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: PA Posts: 1,417	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out There are people that would straighten those out and you'd never know they were bent. __________________ 1967 C10, LWB, 250, Powerglide, PS, PB, 3/4 STATIC DROP

11-10-2015, 02:14 AM	#20
F.A.A.benny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Euless, Tx Posts: 431	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out Sucks. that's why I try to watch what I get from ebay. A lot of sellers don't know how to properly pack and use shipping boxes that are too small for the part(s). In this case. it needed to be a shipping tube or pvc. It really is the responsibility of the seller until it arrives at your doorstep to make sure that the part(s) isn't damaged. Ebay favors buyers so you should come out on top although it sucks to have to go through the hassle and still not get what you wanted. As far shipping providers go. I personally cant stand the post office. It almost seems like having a bad attitude is part of their job requirement. And they have actually lost parts I shipped even with a tracking #. Usp is ok but too expensive. FedEx ftw

11-10-2015, 08:38 AM	#21
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out It's clear the responsibility lies on the seller who obviously did not package these precious parts in any manner of concern what so ever. They got their money and that's all that matters. They shouldn't even be allowed to sell N.O.S. I would take this up with PayPal and get my full refund and screw the jerk who packages parts with no concern. What Ebay seller out there would not be aware of UPS's track record of denying responsibility based on insufficient packaging? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 11-10-2015 at 12:35 PM.

11-10-2015, 01:48 PM	#23
CUSTOM/10 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sandown, NH Posts: 2,810	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out I'd be Heartbroken; I've been looking for a pair of those myself. A few yrs back I had a pair of rust free Cali. doors shipped to NH via Greyhound bus, and they were all dented & bent when they got here. I was sick, did a claim through Greyhound and they said "Insufficient Packaging". Whenever I ship something I made it Bomb Proof. Gary __________________ Gary 72 SWB 4x4 My 72 SWB Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259859

11-25-2015, 07:19 PM	#25
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,205	Re: Received my NOS Paint Dividers today - Check these babies out This Ebay seller has turned out to be a treat. I contacted him three times before I heard back. The parts were delivered to him a week ago, and I contacted him again for refund status, and not a word back. He's listed items since, so safe to say I'm on ignore. Ebay gives him until tomorrow before they process the refund. I figure a bad rating is in order. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025



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