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Bolt on mustang ii
Looking to make a few changes to my truck over the winter, one of which is to lower it a bit more and run bigger tires/ rims. Currently using the ifs from a '79 half ton with dropped spindles & cut coils which has worked fine for my current setup, but looking at the lower control arms the scrub line would be too dangerous.
I'd been looking into the bolt on unit from Speedway Motors Part # 91044754, but recently came across what looks to be the identical setup on EBay sold by Gearhead World item # 201453764942 for considerably less. Anyone familiar with them?
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12-09-2015, 12:39 PM | #2 |
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Got any pics on your current setup? How well do wheels fit without narrowing the front end?
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12-09-2015, 12:59 PM | #3 |
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There are some on my album page.
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12-09-2015, 02:35 PM | #4 |
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Ask Gearhead World who makes it. It looks EXACTLY like the Speedway kit I put in my 55 1st
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12-09-2015, 02:37 PM | #5 |
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By the way, Speedway has instructions online
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Yeah, I know, I downloaded them yesterday. I did call Gearhead, I think it's the same kit for almost half the price!
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How'd it work out for you? Any pics?
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I confess, I bought the gearhead set up and used the Speedway instructions..
The gearhead set up comes with all the bolts and they are a size smaller than what the SW instructions call for, other than that it was a simple upgrade.. I will be using the SW bolt in motor mount kit that fits the cross member.. On second thought it came, with a bottom shelf brand of bearings but for what it saved in $$ I will replace bearings,Ball Joints and brake pads before it hits the streets. They would be fine I'm sure, I'm just anal on some parts.. Last edited by 67GMCkid; 12-09-2015 at 05:48 PM. |
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Got mine in over the weekend & based on the instructions from SW, it looks pretty simple. Haven't ordered the components yet, EBay has one I'll more than likely go with.
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I saw the one that the predecessor company of Premier street rods sold on a display chassis a number of years ago and was impressed with it. No matter which one you get I still like the idea that you can do it with a tape measure, half inch electric drill and hand full of wrenches and it doesn't require any high degree of skill.
It sure beats the snot out of those "universal" where do I cut it and how much kits for almost the same price.
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So, you went with the Gearhead Set up or did you go with the speedway unit ?
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Remanufactured Power Rack Upper and lower Tubular Control Arms w/ Tubes and Gussets Tie Rod Ends Rack bushings & bolts GM Metric Calipers Caliper Brackets Heavy duty shocks (may not be blue as pictured, color may vary) Coil Springs 2" Drop spindles 11" CROSS DRILLED SLOTTED Chevy (5x4 3/4") pattern rotors Spindle Nut Kit Upper A-Arm T-Bolts Spring Cushions Rack Bolts Tie Rod Ends Rack Bushings Bearings, Seals, Dust Caps I'm ordering the brake lines, power steering pressure reducer & heim joint from Speedway.
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Don't know if it's true or not? I have hears Gearhead sells on the bay under several different names..
I thought I bought mine from gearheads but I just looked it came from rodpartsdealer The kit you are getting is close to the one I bought but mine came with a manual rack, I didn't get the drilled/slotted rotors and I chose the stock height spindles.. I did get the cross member with the kit, I ended up with 1,339 in the kit and $229.00 in shipping of the 6 heavy boxes.. I'm sure I will be upgrading at least Bearings,seals before it hits the road but for the $ I think it was a decent kit.. time will tell |
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From what I have read you are pretty well 67GMCKid. I've ordered pieces from them at times and had good service. I'm not sure about the strategy for selling under several names on Ebay unless it's to reach different markets.
Years ago I used to order engine parts from a parts house with a well known drag racers name on it that advertised in the back of Hot Rod and they always came with a receipt from a wholesale warehouse. I was getting the price that the parts houses got if they ordered the parts and it was their way of doing retail sales out the back door.
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rodparts, gear head and about 9 others are the same company. When the feed back get to bad they fold it up and start up under a new name
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Have you started your install yet? I hope I don't run into any issues. I called them to ask questions and the customer service was good. We shall see how it goes.
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Good Info, thanks
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how do you bolt in a notch in the frame rail?
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Only issue I had was everything (5) of the 6 boxes shipped in a day or so of payment. When the boxes got here there was a note in one box that the rotors would ship later, so a week later I called them to find out when I was going to receive them. The CS woman put me on hold for about 3 minutes when she came back she said I would have them in 2 Days and I did!
Had I of thought the whole thing out in advance instead of flying by the seat of my pants, I would have just bought a set of set of 11" Granada rotors locally and ordered My new ralleys to fit the 4-1/2 ford bolt pattern, it would have made things a lot cheaper in the future when a rotor needs replaced... If you check your bearing sizes you will find your rotors are 11" Granada drilled with the Chevy pattern .. The worst parts of the whole install was the weeks worth of scraping, chiseling and scrubbing the dried sand filled grease off the frame and the stuff they had the parts coated in made me itch and scratch for a week after the job was done. |
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" If you check your bearing sizes you will find your rotors are 11" Granada drilled with the Chevy pattern .."
I believe that most all of the kits come with those. A few years back I put the CPP disk kit on my 57 straight axle, then I replaced it with a Scott's front end, and both had the same rotors. |
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Yours is looking good! My components won't be here til next but I'm gonna start tearing mine down tomorrow.
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Calipers appear to be S-10
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Ok, thanks. One more question.... I'm looking over the instructions and it says to trim the radiator support for rack clearance but it doesn't really say how much. About how much did you remove from yours?
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12-30-2015, 06:05 AM | #24 |
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This thread has some good pictures.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=685355 I went way overboard when I cut mine down, it looks nice but I may end up reworking it to add back some strength.. |
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My Speedway kit uses 69-72 GM A-body rotors with their own kit of bearings and races to mate GM rotor to Ford knuckle
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