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lotik · 09-21-2003, 09:27 PM

are all ashtrays the same? the one in the LMC book looks as if it bolts in. i dont think the one that is in my dash is bolted in. and the tray i have wont fit in the "carriage" in the dash? help please.

oldtrucknut · 09-21-2003, 09:37 PM

I ran into the same problem as you are experiencing. I bet that you have a '67. They are not the same as you see in any catalog. They will not work, period. New ones are not available, at least I checked everywhere and could not find them. I finally found one in a junkyard. Even at that it was really hard to get a hold of. It might be different in other parts of the country but here they are rare. What you are looking for is just an ashtray with no track, no bearings, nothing. It just slides into that hole in your dash, metal to metal.

**Tim Christian** · 09-21-2003, 09:39 PM

I have one if interested for a 67.

**PICKMUP** · 09-21-2003, 09:54 PM

Yes, there are two different ashtrays (early & late). The early ones glide on steel ball bearings, bind up a lot, and don't open as far. The later ones from about 70 ? on slide on plastic or nylon grooved rails. Much smoother and come out farther.
They both bolt in to the dash in the same holes, but you have to get the matching mount to go with the ashtray---not rare at all.
Just to confuse you, a few mounts seemed to be welded in, so just skip them...they are not worth the hassle. If you buy a new GM ashtray assembly, you get the mount & ashtray...and you will basically get screwed, since GM just doubled the price to about $40. Used ones clean up real nice.

oldtrucknut · 09-21-2003, 10:02 PM

Well, Pickmup

It seems that I don't know what I am talking about after reading your post. HMM? If you don't believe me do you want a picture? My 67 has no bearings at all, like I said it is metal to metal. The housing that it goes into is welded in at the factory- there are no holes that anything will mount to. And I have talked to parts suppliers with much more experience than you or I that said that 67 was the only year for this style of ashtray.

lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:02 PM

see, the cab is a 67 but i pulled the dash out of a 72. so, i am just gonna take a picture of it and see what kind of tray i need. brb.

lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:07 PM

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lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:10 PM

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Slammed67 · 09-21-2003, 10:20 PM

oldtrucknut: I have the same type of ashtray that you described in my '67...... no ball bearings..... just a metal "sleeve" that it slides into.

>X< · 09-21-2003, 10:23 PM

easy solution----shave it

lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:24 PM

too late now..=/ i want to paint it red to match the guage cluster and glove box door. i need a tray asap.

oldtrucknut · 09-21-2003, 10:26 PM

Thanks for backing me up there Slammed67.
Unlike some people here, I only post something when I know exactly what I am talking about.

lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:27 PM

ok guys what kind of tray do i need? i have pics now.

oldtrucknut · 09-21-2003, 10:34 PM

I would bet good money that those plastic tracks come out. Keep looking for bolts in there. When you get that track out, you can install the whole new ash tray and track.

**68 Stepside** · 09-21-2003, 10:38 PM

I also agree about the 67 ashtray. They also were flat (at least mine was) against the dash, instead of raised and rounded like my 68.

lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:40 PM

mine looks alot like the picture in the lmc book. but i just did not see any bolts. i will look again though.

lotik · 09-21-2003, 10:52 PM

the tray definately does not have any bolts in it.

oldtrucknut · 09-21-2003, 10:59 PM

Hmmm? Well I am out of ideas on that one. Bring it over to my shop in Indiana and I'll figure it out.

**PICKMUP** · 09-21-2003, 11:11 PM

Lotik- obviously the one in the pic is the later style I was trying to help describe to you. There is also the ball type and the 67 must be one-of-a-kind.

Oldtrucknut-I don't know who, "Put a nickle in you" and got you going, but I was just trying to help Lotik with a couple different kinds of trays in our trucks. Thanks for the slam. It is really nice that you don't post unless you know exactly what you are talking about...be real careful now...You might make a mistake, unless you do truely know everything. I know I sure don't.

Sorry, guys, I was just trying to share some info, not correct anyone. I described two of them, but didn't get the third. It must be nice to be perfect!

oldtrucknut · 09-21-2003, 11:13 PM

Apology accepted, friend!

67cst · 09-21-2003, 11:21 PM

pickupman--->you've never steered me wrong

lotik · 09-22-2003, 03:56 PM

so does someone have a tray they could sale me that will fit the mount in my dash?

Hotrod70C10 · 09-22-2003, 04:05 PM

Tim Christian said he had one earlier in this post.

**CPNE** · 09-22-2003, 04:19 PM

If the dash is from a 72, you need a 72 ashtray, not a 67. Are those rails that have been primed over in the pics plastic? If so it's the later style used 71/72. It sounds to me you may have a 67 ashtray and a 72 dash/plastic rails. This won't fit as you found out.

Davy · 09-22-2003, 05:45 PM

Easy there Indiana.

09-21-2003, 09:27 PM	#1
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	ashtrays.. are all ashtrays the same? the one in the LMC book looks as if it bolts in. i dont think the one that is in my dash is bolted in. and the tray i have wont fit in the "carriage" in the dash? help please. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 09:37 PM	#2
oldtrucknut 67-72 truck surgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 155	I ran into the same problem as you are experiencing. I bet that you have a '67. They are not the same as you see in any catalog. They will not work, period. New ones are not available, at least I checked everywhere and could not find them. I finally found one in a junkyard. Even at that it was really hard to get a hold of. It might be different in other parts of the country but here they are rare. What you are looking for is just an ashtray with no track, no bearings, nothing. It just slides into that hole in your dash, metal to metal. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10 1993 Toyota Camry LE 1999 Ford F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel 2008 Dodge Charger Super Bee 1953 International R182

09-21-2003, 09:54 PM	#4
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,129	Two styles Yes, there are two different ashtrays (early & late). The early ones glide on steel ball bearings, bind up a lot, and don't open as far. The later ones from about 70 ? on slide on plastic or nylon grooved rails. Much smoother and come out farther. They both bolt in to the dash in the same holes, but you have to get the matching mount to go with the ashtray---not rare at all. Just to confuse you, a few mounts seemed to be welded in, so just skip them...they are not worth the hassle. If you buy a new GM ashtray assembly, you get the mount & ashtray...and you will basically get screwed, since GM just doubled the price to about $40. Used ones clean up real nice. __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

09-21-2003, 10:02 PM	#5
oldtrucknut 67-72 truck surgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 155	Well, Pickmup It seems that I don't know what I am talking about after reading your post. HMM? If you don't believe me do you want a picture? My 67 has no bearings at all, like I said it is metal to metal. The housing that it goes into is welded in at the factory- there are no holes that anything will mount to. And I have talked to parts suppliers with much more experience than you or I that said that 67 was the only year for this style of ashtray. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10 1993 Toyota Camry LE 1999 Ford F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel 2008 Dodge Charger Super Bee 1953 International R182

09-21-2003, 10:02 PM	#6
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	see, the cab is a 67 but i pulled the dash out of a 72. so, i am just gonna take a picture of it and see what kind of tray i need. brb. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 09:39 PM	#3
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,388	I have one if interested for a 67.

09-21-2003, 10:07 PM	#7
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	.. Attached Images __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 10:10 PM	#8
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	.... Attached Images __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 10:20 PM	#9
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	oldtrucknut: I have the same type of ashtray that you described in my '67...... no ball bearings..... just a metal "sleeve" that it slides into. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

09-21-2003, 10:23 PM	#10
>X< registered IWATA user Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 4,483	easy solution----shave it __________________ -'63 Ford Fairlane 500 coupe, v8, auto, faded and rusty. awaiting built roller 302 and some flat black -'99 Honda Prelude. vtech/5spd. no pipe, no intake, bone stock. awaiting new top end. -01 GMC Yukon SLT 5.3 dented and scratched with a noisy tranny. Take off that Von Dutch hat before i stab you with a 000 Mack.

09-21-2003, 10:24 PM	#11
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	too late now..=/ i want to paint it red to match the guage cluster and glove box door. i need a tray asap. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 10:26 PM	#12
oldtrucknut 67-72 truck surgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 155	Thanks for backing me up there Slammed67. Unlike some people here, I only post something when I know exactly what I am talking about. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10 1993 Toyota Camry LE 1999 Ford F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel 2008 Dodge Charger Super Bee 1953 International R182

09-21-2003, 10:27 PM	#13
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	ok guys what kind of tray do i need? i have pics now. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 10:34 PM	#14
oldtrucknut 67-72 truck surgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 155	I would bet good money that those plastic tracks come out. Keep looking for bolts in there. When you get that track out, you can install the whole new ash tray and track. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10 1993 Toyota Camry LE 1999 Ford F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel 2008 Dodge Charger Super Bee 1953 International R182

09-21-2003, 10:38 PM	#15
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	I also agree about the 67 ashtray. They also were flat (at least mine was) against the dash, instead of raised and rounded like my 68. __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay



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09-21-2003, 10:40 PM	#16
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	mine looks alot like the picture in the lmc book. but i just did not see any bolts. i will look again though. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 10:52 PM	#17
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	the tray definately does not have any bolts in it. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-21-2003, 10:59 PM	#18
oldtrucknut 67-72 truck surgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 155	Hmmm? Well I am out of ideas on that one. Bring it over to my shop in Indiana and I'll figure it out. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10 1993 Toyota Camry LE 1999 Ford F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel 2008 Dodge Charger Super Bee 1953 International R182

09-21-2003, 11:11 PM	#19
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,129	Not perfect--just trying! Lotik- obviously the one in the pic is the later style I was trying to help describe to you. There is also the ball type and the 67 must be one-of-a-kind. Oldtrucknut-I don't know who, "Put a nickle in you" and got you going, but I was just trying to help Lotik with a couple different kinds of trays in our trucks. Thanks for the slam. It is really nice that you don't post unless you know exactly what you are talking about...be real careful now...You might make a mistake, unless you do truely know everything. I know I sure don't. Sorry, guys, I was just trying to share some info, not correct anyone. I described two of them, but didn't get the third. It must be nice to be perfect! __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

09-21-2003, 11:13 PM	#20
oldtrucknut 67-72 truck surgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 155	Apology accepted, friend! __________________ 1969 Chevy C10 1993 Toyota Camry LE 1999 Ford F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel 2008 Dodge Charger Super Bee 1953 International R182

09-21-2003, 11:21 PM	#21
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	pickupman--->you've never steered me wrong __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

09-22-2003, 03:56 PM	#22
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	so does someone have a tray they could sale me that will fit the mount in my dash? __________________ negative camber //LA\\

09-22-2003, 04:05 PM	#23
Hotrod70C10 Low & Slow Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,047	Tim Christian said he had one earlier in this post. __________________ 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside 4.5/6 drop

09-22-2003, 04:19 PM	#24
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	If the dash is from a 72, you need a 72 ashtray, not a 67. Are those rails that have been primed over in the pics plastic? If so it's the later style used 71/72. It sounds to me you may have a 67 ashtray and a 72 dash/plastic rails. This won't fit as you found out. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all Last edited by CPNE; 09-22-2003 at 04:42 PM.

09-22-2003, 05:45 PM	#25
Davy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rice, Minnesota Posts: 370	Easy there Indiana. __________________ 1970 Blazer CST Looking for NOS items for my CST restoration.

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