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Old 02-15-2016, 08:27 PM   #1
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Lightbulb PC Based ALDL (OBD 1) Diagnostic Software and Interfaces

1982-1995 GM ALDL
PC hardware and software for diagnostic code reading and real-time data logging on the cheap... or at least a whack at it.

ALDL is an acronym that means Assembly Line Diagnostic Link It's a proprietary GM PWM TTL level Serial communications protocol. It was not standardized even loosely within GM divisions. It varied greatly by model, nameplate, year, and even engine choice.

Mr Goodwrench used the Tech I and later the Tech II to communicate with these vehicles. If you can find a working Tech I or a real Tech II they have more functionality than any aftermarket solution depending on your needs.
The Tech I is all but extinct (I haven't seen one for sale in over 2 years). Most of us can't afford a real Tech II and those are getting scarce. If I could afford a real Vertronix or HP Tech II I don't feel confident that I could weed out the Chinese counterfeits... there seem to be more poorly constructed Chinese knockoffs than the real thing now and they are priced the same or more.

12 terminal ALDL jack (OBD)
Repair parts Delphi 12020043 ALDL Jack with 15484100 FEM METRIPAK 280 18AWG Au PLTD terminals.

[A] ECM Ground
[B) Diagnostic Enable
[C] ECM to Air Switch Solenoid
[D] CLCC (If used) 160 Baud Serial Data TX only (1982-1986 Carburettor Trucks)
[E] 160 Baud TTL Serial Data TX only
[F] ECM Driver or Vac Switch for TCC
[G] Fuel Pump Prime
[H] RWAL VSS
[M] 8192 Baud TTL serial data TX & RX

Not all positions are populated on all vehicles and usually only one serial data line is present.

1995 16 terminal ALDL Jack (OBD 1.5)
This looks like 1996 and later J1962 OBD II jacks because it is physically the same jack. Electrically it is not the same. I would be sorely tempted to install the old ALDL jack if I owned a 1995 GM.
Repair Parts Molex 511151601 with Molex 50420-8000 terminals and Terminal Retainer 0511181605

[5] Ground
[9] 8192 Baud bi-directional TTL serial data RX & TX
[16]ECM + Power



"Paper clip" method
The diagnostic lamp is called several different things. SES (Service Engine Soon) MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) CEL (Check Engine Lamp) these acronyms all refer to the same lamp... if it reliably lights during the bulb check, when the ignition is switched on, this method can probably be used.
NOTE: This will not work with 1994 & 1995 OBD 1.5 jacks

PC Method
  • GM used 12 position Delphi Packard 12020043 ALDL diagnostic sockets on most US market vehicles from 1982-1994.
  • 160 baud data on terminal E (sometimes on terminal D) is uni-directional TX only.
  • 8192 on terminal M is bi-directional TX & RX on some models.
  • In late 1994 & 1995 GM used the, soon to be OBD II, J1962 diagnostic socket with 8192 baud bi-directional ALDL data on terminal 9.
  • You can read codes and some sensor data, like the CTS, MAP, TPS, and O2 sensor directly from the 1982-1995 ECM using the ALDL port.
    The older ECMs will have less available data. I'm not really sure what you'll get from the early 1982-1986 Electronic Carburettor engines... I've never tried.

You'll need
  • An old PC or laptop for the garage
  • Software
  • 1982 - 1994 use a 12 terminal ALDL cable.
    It's worth noting... 1995 is the ONLY YEAR that GM vehicles with ALDL have the 16 terminal J1962 "OBD II" interface socket that some folks call OBD 1.5... It's 8192 baud TTL level serial TX & RX.
    If you don't have a late 1994 or 1995 don't worry about the orphan 16 terminal ALDL cable.



The PC
This used to be the most expensive part. Thankfully the requirements are pretty low even if you intend to use it for OBD II / GMLAN (CAN) diagnostics.
A lot of companies and schools are getting rid of their old Windows XP laptops now that support for XP really has ended. Since a diagnostic laptop doesn't need to access the internet that's not a problem. There are some pretty good deals on lightly used brand name laptops right now. Get em while they're cheap and plentiful.
Minimum specs needed OBD I, OBD 1.5 &, and OBD II/CAN Diagnostics with Windows XP.
  • Windows XP or Windows 7 Skip Windows Vista.
  • Lithium Ion Battery not Ni-MH
  • Dual Core 1.5ghz Processor Windows XP and Windows 7 will run and multi-task better with more processor.
  • USB Port(s).
  • 15.4" HD screen... WXGA 1280 x 800 is very common... HD is 1280x720. More pixel density is nicer. My 13 year old HP NX7400 is 15.4" WUXGA 1920x1200 pixels.
  • 1-4gb RAM. 32 bit Windows XP will not address more than 3.25gb RAM but will run better with more than 512mb. Windows 7 should have minimum of 4 gb.
  • 80-100 GB+ HDD. More is usually better but usually costs more. Above 250-300gb SATA may run into BIOS and operating system (driver needed) compatibility problems on some older Windows XP laptops. For Windows XP make sure there's at least 30-40gb free. 300-500gb is minimum for decent Windows 7 performance.
- Whatever you buy be sure it's listed as completely WORKING, has the AC Power supply, has a charged battery even if it's tired (it proves the charge circuit is working), has the Hard drive, has USB ports, and has a legible Microsoft COA sticker just in case you have to reload Windows.
- If the seller has not wiped the HDD you may want to wipe it from a boot disc and re-install a fresh copy of Windows to get rid of the Prior owners personal information, viruses, Pirate software, corrupted registry settings, and other things you just don't want to know about or be associated with.
- It's very nice if you can get the OEM Windows install media included because it'll have the drivers you need slipstreamed into the installation media. However. You can usually find someone to get you bootleg copies of bare bones XP SP1 or SP2 OEM discs to legally use with your OEM COA... Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc have drivers for pretty old machines available for download.

- The Dell D500, D600 &, D800 series (D520, D530, D620, D630, D820, D830, ...) laptops were VERY popular so they are extremely plentiful, they have cheap Lithium Ion batteries, they can run Windows XP Pro or even Windows 7 Pro, many of these older laptops have a real 9Pin RS232 serial port and, most will have at least one or two USB Host jacks. Everything a garage laptop needs. http://www.ebay.com/bhp/dell-d620
- Some of the HP Enterprise class laptops that run Windows 7 like the HP Elitebook 8560P and the older NX series like the NX7400 are getting pretty reasonable but not as reasonable as the used Dell D-series I referenced above. You do get what you pay for because the HP Elitebook has a much tougher Aluminum case than the Dell units and both the Elitebook and NX series have an extended use secondary battery but the batteries are more expensive and less available because the HP was not as popular.
- Look on laptop forums for what commonly breaks on some of these machines... For instance. The HP NX series screen hinges tended to break if they were not lubricated.

Free ALDL PC Software

Commercial ALDL PC Software
I don't own any of these packages. All of them do much more than scan for trouble codes.
  • GMTDScan Tech diagnostic scan tool for GM's 1994-1995 6.5TD trucks. It's supposed to be on-par with the GM Tech 1, 1A, & II for these trucks.
  • TunerCat

USB and RS232 ALDL Interface Cables
1982-1994 12 terminal or 1995 16 terminal moulded plugs.
Commercial cables are fairly inexpensive... around $55.
  • 1320 Electronics USB or Bluetooth or Both to ALDL 12 & 16 terminal moulded plugs. The 1320electronics interfaces have status LEDs. The Bluetooth can be set by the manufacturer to the CLCC data pin D but it's not user selectable. The Bluetooth interfaces can also be requested to draw power from pin G.
  • 12 terminal USB only cable has a very very nice feature that I have not seen on any other cable... data is user dipswitch selectable for D, E, & M you do not have to buy a bare terminal cable to talk to the CLCC "terminal D" ECMs.
  • Red Devil River USB or Bluetooth to ALDL 12 & 16 terminal moulded plugs.
  • CK5 forum RS232 to ALDL DIY Howto DIY RS232 to ALDL.
    Note: Be sure the PC/Laptop has a DB9/DB25 RS232 Serial port on COM1-COM4 with a standard Rockwell compliant buffered UART using standard base addresses and standard IRQ channels. Introduction to IRQs, DMAs and Base Addresses
  • Gearhead EFI Forum Uber-easy DIY USB to ALDL Cable DIY USB to ALDL
    Note: DIY cables will not have OEM type moulded plugs unless you can find a supplier. Moulded ends are not inexpensive.

Hopefully this is useful to you folks.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:41 PM   #2
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Lightbulb Android Based ALDL (OBD 1) & OBD II Diagnostic Software and Interfaces

Android ALDL OBDII & CAN (GMLAN) Diagnostics
I will be adding to and refining this writeup.
Android Devices
Android tablets and phones are not my first choice for ALDL datalogging and diagnostics. Android devices with displays, memory, and and file space even close to a cheap laptop are expensive and the Android ALDL software is expensive compared to the free offerings for the PC that have more functionality. If you already own an Android tablet or phone with good screen resolution, enough memory, enough storage, and enough processor speed the software becomes somewhat easier to justify.
If you're doing OBD II and CAN the price gets a lot more reasonable because most decent PC based OBD II diagnostics packages are very expensive and the Android packages are not.
I don't recommend using USB interfaces with Android yet. There are very fast high quality Bluetooth interfaces for both ALDL and OBD II for not much more money. The Android Bluetooth stacks and the Bluetooth chipsets in most Android devices are very robust and work quite well.
It's not as straightforward to use USB Host (USB OTG) interfaces in Android. Not all phones and tablets support the whole USB OTG stack because most consumers are just looking to plug in thumb drives not the serial output from a car or truck. You might have USB OTG with Serial Host mode right out of the box or you might have to root your phone or tablet and hack Serial USB OTG into the kernel along with the Chipset drivers assuming it's even possible. Android also has a limited number of supported USB to Serial chipsets when the USB Serial host is actually installed. It's not just the OS. The application software has to support the chipset too.
The cheap Chinese Android tablets and phones are not usually worth getting. Typically the screen pixel density is very low in comparison to decent tablets... Good 10" tablets are 1920x1080 while cheap 10" tablets are 1024x600 same as a quality 7" tablet so text and images end up pixellated and fuzzy. On top of that they are typically filled with poorly replicated chips or blems that didn't make the QC cut. Functionality like Bluetooth and WiFi is adversely affected.



Software
ALDL
  • ALDL Scan From 1320 Electronics. Can use Bluetooth interfaces.
    Note: You will need to download and install the correct ALDL config file for your ECM from his page.
  • ALDL Droid From Sébastien Giroux. Can use USB OTG (FTDI only) or Bluetooth interfaces.
    Note: You will need TunerPro ADX config files for your ECM. You can also edit BIN files for tuning with Craig Moates chip tuning hardware.

OBD II & CAN
  • Torque Pro $5.00 US. Capable of using free and paid plugins and several other features not in the LITE version.
    You should enable extended GM PIDs. From the main screen press Menu->Settings->Manage extra PIDs/Sensors. Then. "Menu->Add predefined set->Pontiac/GM/Opel/Vauxall". Viola! You just added all Pre-Defined GM PIDs to the available PID list.
    Torque Pro Wiki
  • TorqueScan Very Useful FREE Torque plugin.
    After you install this goto Menu->settings->plugins and tick the "Allow plugins full access check box" TorqueScan will show all the known sensors that it can read from the installed list of PIDs along with the realtime data being read. That's useful enough, but if you want some real magic goto Menu->PID Scanner to scan for additional PIDs while you're on a longer drive. The PID scanner says it will take a long time... YUP it does. Be sure your device is plugged into a charger. It's worth the wait. The PID Scanner function of TorqueScan will compile a list of all available extended PIDs on your vehicle including those not in the pre-defined list.
    Note: I use TorquePro with TorqueScan. There are several other OBD II apps in the Play Store. I don't use them so I have no idea of their functionality.


Interfaces Bluetooth & USB
1982-1994 ALDL 12 terminal moulded plugs
1994-1995 16 terminal J1962 moulded plugs.
1996-2005 OBDII and 2006 and later J2411 CAN with 16 terminal J1962 moulded plugs.
NOTE Commercial ALDL, OBD II, and even OBD II/J2411 CAN interfaces are again fairly inexpensive... around $55-$100.

ALDL 12 & 16 terminal Interface
  • 1320 ElectronicsBluetooth to ALDL 12 & 16 terminal moulded plugs.
    Note: 1320 electronics is the developer of ALDL Scan. Their interface has COM status lights and easy configuration dipswitches. Their USB-only cable has user selectable switches to select data from pins D, E, & M. The Bluetooth adapters data pin settings are internal jumpers with a default of E & M that covers 90% of users and possible custom configuration of data from pin D by request.
  • Red Devil RiverBluetooth to ALDL 12 & 16 terminal moulded plugs.

OBD II & CANBUS J1962 Interface
It's worth noting the Chinese ELM327 Bluetooth OBD II interfaces are very very cheap. The price should be a red flag.
There are more than a few stories of damaged PCMs using the super Cheap Chinese OBD II devices.
They usually have various issues some large some small. They seem to be luck of the draw. You might not get a lemon but you are very likely to. If you buy one be SURE you can return it if it doesn't work.
Don't ask for guidance here making the Chinese interfaces work. Most are full of poorly copied stolen chip designs in either the ELM327 PCM ECM connection or the Bluetooth radio or both and there's no way to tell what you're getting.
IMHO the cheap and super cheap Chinese interfaces are not worth your time.
  • OBDLink™ MX Smart Bluetooth Wireless
    Goes on sale for $79.95 fairly often. Multi-protocol interface covers OBDII GM (J1857 VPW) & SAE J2411 Single-Wire CAN (GMLAN) and others.
    Note: TorquePRO; This is the best adapter if you want the fastest PID read speed. Read speeds can be as fast as 100PIDs/sec over Bluetooth (Tested on a Galaxy S4, CANBUS protocol). This device also offers security to prevent unauthorized use.
Hopefully this provides a good jumpstart to your search...
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1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


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Re: PC Based ALDL (OBD 1) Diagnostic Software and Interfaces

Lots of good info here. I have used TunerPro and WinALDL with a laptop to read my old ECMs data. They work very well.
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Lots of good info here. I have used TunerPro and WinALDL with a laptop to read my old ECMs data. They work very well.
I've used both of them. They work very well. I even donated for a TunerPro RT license.

Right now is the time to get a good Windows XP laptop with USB ports to run this kind of ALDL & OBD II software. There are so many of them dropping on the used market that the prices for complete, tested, ready-to-go units are between $50 & $150 with tired batteries.
You want them to have tired but working batteries because it proves the charge circuit works.
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1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD
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1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD
1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


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Re: PC Based ALDL (OBD 1) Diagnostic Software and Interfaces

I have a laptop with Windows 7 that I got from a friend. It works great with Tunerpro. I have a burner that I got from Moates, and I can edit the bins in my TPI ECMs, but it doesn't work with TBI chips.
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Re: PC Based ALDL (OBD 1) Diagnostic Software and Interfaces

Great info!

I use the OBD Diagnostics, Inc. All-In-One tool along with their OBDI, OBDII and MEFI-4 cables as well as genuine GM Tech II scan tool to talk to both OBDI and OBDII. I use the Tech II most often but I use the OBD Diagnostics when I am traveling with limited room to carry a big Tech II.

As far as software for the OBD Diagnostic, Inc. cables I use ScanTool.net software, DigimotoLite, TunerPro RT and a few others. One of these allows for OBDI data logging as well. I think it is TunerPro RT that will allow me to Data Log. I have no tuning ability and I don’t want any. Tuning is an art left to those that do it on a routine basis. All of these software packages are free and have the ablity to monitor data but cannot command any actions like a Tech II scan tool.
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