283 & 327 for one low price!

[sharkskinman]

Bought a couple engines local
A rusty boat anchor 327 complete with intake and waterlogged 4bbl..w/out exhaust (65 chevelle ss?) out of car "covered up"
And a really dirty 283(64-65 Malibu?) in barn in car tags said 79 ..complete except exhaust


We'll just say I picked them up for a song and a jig

327 Will have to be completely disassembled
283 will be resealed and thoroughly cleaned

Probably drop 283 in till 327 rebuild.. Then sell 283 and 230

Going to dismantle both to ends and oil pans
check for All seized parts!

Picking them up Thursday
MANY pictures to come..
Going to use this thread for both engine rebuilds

Knowledge..info..pics will be helpful

[WOLFMANmike]

Originally Posted by sharkskinman

Bought a couple engines local
A rusty boat anchor 327 complete with intake and waterlogged 4bbl..w/out exhaust (65 chevelle ss?) out of car "covered up"
And a really dirty 283(64-65 Malibu?) in barn in car tags said 79 ..complete except exhaust


We'll just say I picked them up for a song and a jig

327 Will have to be completely disassembled
283 will be resealed and thoroughly cleaned

Probably drop 283 in till 327 rebuild.. Then sell 283 and 230

Going to dismantle both to ends and oil pans
check for All seized parts!

Picking them up Thursday
MANY pictures to come..
Going to use this thread for both engine rebuilds

Knowledge..info..pics will be helpful

not sure if you know this or not but the early 283s were steel forged cranks stock . i dont know about the 327s but a 283 done right can be a pissed off lil beast

[sharkskinman]

What would stock exhaust manifold look like? Straight down? Angled? I've seen some that connect and exit in the rear
Many different manifolds I get it
Looking just to get cheap good manifolds to get it on the road
I'm in belief that the manifold for a 283 will work and are probably the same as the 327

I'm guessing seal kits/rering/engine kits are the same as well
Feels like I'm going to end up buying doubles of everything and I'm cool with that

[WOLFMANmike]

Originally Posted by sharkskinman

What would stock exhaust manifold look like? Straight down? Angled? I've seen some that connect and exit in the rear
Many different manifolds I get it
Looking just to get cheap good manifolds to get it on the road
I'm in belief that the manifold for a 283 will work and are probably the same as the 327

I'm guessing seal kits/rering/engine kits are the same as well
Feels like I'm going to end up buying doubles of everything and I'm cool with that

Just get you some ram horn exhaust manifolds and you will be golden

[sharkskinman]

Pic would help..dont know of current charge system but will have alternator

[WOLFMANmike]

Originally Posted by sharkskinman

Pic would help..dont know of current charge system but will have alternator

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/sum-...FVE0aQodr9EEeA

[sharkskinman]

So center dump best for truck?
Anything different for 3spd clutch interference?

[WOLFMANmike]

Originally Posted by sharkskinman

So center dump best for truck?
Anything different for 3spd clutch interference?

Not as far as I know your best bet is to buy the ram horns . Put the whole package into the truck then take it to a exhaust shop a d have them route the pipes how they see best . I personally like and prefer long tube headers myself ... they sound nicer and performance is better but that's just me

[Monte's62]

I believe the 65 327 is the small journal and most of them if not all came with steel cranks as well. They too can be built to take it. I believe the large journal 327 came in 67.

[sharkskinman]

3782870....327...62-67...2

[sharkskinman]

3834810....283...64-66...2

[franken]

So the plan is to part the boat anchors on ebay?

[60chevyjim]

your 283 has powerpac heads on it.
the 327 looks like it has fuelie heads on it , it's a 62-67
its a small journal crank 327 , that's a great engine to build.
both engines use the same size bearings.
the 283 has smaller bore pistons. I think its 3+7/8
the 327 has 4 inch bore .

that small journal 327 was a great find !!
don't let anyone try to con you out of it .

[60chevyjim]

Originally Posted by Monte's62

I believe the 65 327 is the small journal and most of them if not all came with steel cranks as well. They too can be built to take it. I believe the large journal 327 came in 67.

large journal 327's came out in 68 and have a spin on oil filter .
they have the same 4 inch bore and same size bearings as a 350
but with less stroke than a 350.

[Captainfab]

I would definitely build the 327 over the 283. That 327 with the 461/462 casting heads and the 4-Jet carb was likely an original 300 hp 327. The suffix code in front of the passenger side head will tell you. Hopefully the inside of the 327 looks better than the outside.

[61K10]

I have never seen a 300hp 327 with a 4-jet Rochester, only a carter AFB. when i was a kid we had a new 63 Impala with a 250hp eng and it had a 4-jet and non fuelie heads. the best SB ever built back in the day.

[60chevyjim]

this would be a better deal than the exaust manifolds
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151333159004...84.m1436.l2649

and if you need a new alternator I bought one like this ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-CHROME-O...ZRm~pT&vxp=mtr

[vince1]

Wow, there must be a lot of humidity in the air for them to corrode like that.
But you're inspiring me to maybe look for one of them to put in my truck. Had a Ford 272 Y block back in the day but can't say I've ever had the experience of running a 283 or 327. My dad was afraid of V-8's so he bought his 55 Chevy wagon with the 261.

[sharkskinman]

I'll fix the 283 n put it in
Then fix piston of 230 and have it back running good
Then do 327 and swap out for 283
Then have good running 230 n 283 to sell unless another Chevy (or VW) project comes up
Mmmm VW fastback volksrod w/a 283 SBC in the rear!!��

Need to pick good/correct medium to sand blast with a good degreaser for parts washer!
Any suggestions??

[Monte's62]

Originally Posted by 60chevyjim

large journal 327's came out in 68 and have a spin on oil filter .
they have the same 4 inch bore and same size bearings as a 350
but with less stroke than a 350.

Thanks Jim I thought it was around 67 or so. Thanks for the clarification. In any case, as mentioned both could make nice little small blocks but that 327 could really be a beast if built with good stuff. It sounds like the OP has a plan for that down the road. Good luck with both my friend.

[sharkskinman]

Both these SBCs have what appears to be Huge oil filters.. Those are just cans w/filters in them? Hm...

[sharkskinman]

Looks like the 327 valve covers maybe these??

[sharkskinman]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/For-SBC-Chevy-.../171891901214?
Maybe? Anything really different in the manifold gaskets?

[WOLFMANmike]

Originally Posted by sharkskinman

http://m.ebay.com/itm/For-SBC-Chevy-.../171891901214?
Maybe? Anything really different in the manifold gaskets?

those are a design called block hugger headers ... they are ok . i still prefer long tube headers my self ..... but let me just caution you about headers on the cheap side like these sold on ebay ... my buddy has gone through 3 sets of them already because the welds on the tubes broke and had exhaust leaks ... and also the the flange surface is junk to they bend and warp ... so what ever you buy i highly recommend getting a good quality name brand header ... and stay away from Sanderson headers also junk ... Summit Racing has their own in house brand that are good and still cheap ..... but if you have the cash ide go with Hookers .... or Dougs Headers ... Thorleys ... but if you really want that 327 to sing a sweet song get some long tube headers

[60chevyjim]

the oil filter 's are canister oil filters , they have a filter inside that you can replace ,
there is a Oring where the canister meets the block.
you can buy an adaptor to use a much cheaper spin on filter .
yes the orange 327 valve covers for 62-67 .
the exhaust gaskets are the same on older stock motors.
I posted a link for stainless steel headers that will fit your truck and they wont rust ..
also a one wire alternator that makes hookup way too ez
northern auto has good prices on rebuild kits .
once you get the heads off both motors 283 + 327 you can see witch engine will be in better shape to rebuild . if they need bored + new pistons .
don't waste your money on the 283 the 327 is a better investment of you money.
I have about five or six stock 283's and one
small journal 327 with lots of performance parts .
my chopped 50 ferd is all chevy too , 350 engine th350 trans and S10 front clip and rear and S10 wiring harness so no need to have to walk home.