spicer locking hubs

[midniteblues]

hey guys i found a set of 3/4 ton spicer blue knob hubs in a jy.
the yard is a good bit aways so i would only like too make one more trip there as there really isnt anything else there worth while.

i have zero expeirance with 4x4 hubs. with that said..

i would like to know what tools i'll need to get everything that i'm gonna need for them off.
i cant carry my whole garage with me in the yard
so any help here would be nice.

i know i'll need a set of allen wrenches and a socket set for the 6 bolts.

haveing never taken these off before is there anything else?
do they just pop off after the 6 bolts are out?
do i "need" too take the allen bolts out to get them off or just the six bolts?

i have drive slugs on my truck and i'm not sure witch i'll be useing.
from what i have been seeing i'm not gonna leave these lockouts in the yard for someone else to get

[57taskforce]

You'll also need a pair of snap ring pliers so you can remove the snap ring from the stub shaft in order to remove the axle shaft gear.
Are you sure there 3/4 hubs? I'm kind of confused about your question about the bolts. 3/4 ton Blue dial spicers should only have the six big Allen bolts recessed in the chrome cover.
Although it's from another site and geared tward the 73-77 mustard hubs this article may help some:
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/sm...?topic=22710.0

[Ol Blue K20]

The allens hold the chrome outer section. A snap ring on the axle and then the bolts remove the rest of it.

[midniteblues]

awe man
in the link
the third pic down the one on the right side is what i found except the knob is differnt than that one.
its definitly blue and looks like all the other knobs.

i never really saw the name"spicer" on them but i figured thats what they were after a long search here lookin at pics of lockouts.

i rarely carry my phone in jys and this time i should've to snap a pic of them. just to be sure.

is there any other blue knobed lockouts? these are on a 71 k20 so i just went from there and assummed

[57taskforce]

Sounds like it's got warns on it maybe somebody painted the dials on them.

[midniteblues]

ya know perhaps my brain was going feverishly and they were warns.

do they still dissasemble the same?

[undertaker72]

do you remember if just the plastic emblem had been tore off as a lot of the spicers had plier marks and they were rough looking , or could it of been a aftermarket type like second picture , still uses allen bolts but in 2 sizes kind of like a warn

[57taskforce]

If they are warns they will disassemble like Ol Blue k20 said above.

[midniteblues]

Originally Posted by undertaker72

do you remember if just the plastic emblem had been tore off as a lot of the spicers had plier marks and they were rough looking , or could it of been a aftermarket type like second picture , still uses allen bolts but in 2 sizes kind of like a warn

the chrome rings were identical to your top pic

the plastic knobs looked like the top pic but the bridge the part you grasp with your fingers connected on each side like your second pic they were plastic and very faded blue

nowhere did they say spicer but i figured it was wore off.
after looking online spicers were the closest resembleance. they were in decent shape turned easy with no plyer marks.

if ya read my above reply and followed the pic too that link they had tose type of bases

could i have been looking at someones mixture of parts?

[midniteblues]

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

If they are warns they will disassemble like Ol Blue k20 said above.

thank you that really helps.
either way i'm going back cause i'm getting other parts there i really just wanted to know if i needed any other tools to get hubs off besides the basics.

[undertaker72]

Take a flat blade screwdriver and a pair of channel locks also including the other tools on the above post sometimes the inner gear has some suction or sludge and you have to either help pry it out or wiggle it with the channel locks

[midniteblues]

Originally Posted by undertaker72

Take a flat blade screwdriver and a pair of channel locks also including the other tools on the above post sometimes the inner gear has some suction or sludge and you have to either help pry it out or wiggle it with the channel locks

thank you i will

as you all can see i'm a 4x4 newbie no expeireance with front soild axles
i've had 7 differnt 2wd square bodys 3 differnt 4wd s10's but never a fullsize 4x4.

wish i woulda took a pic

at a differnt very small yard on the way home yesterday i saw this 8 lug front axle in a square burb and did take pic can someone identify it before i do a search cant say i've seen this cover before this had automatic hubs.

[Classic Bowties]

Here are some pictures that were recently taken and labeled to help another member id the factory style spicer hubs that were used. Mel

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[midniteblues]

thats them lower left corner

but like my reply and the link showed earlier they had those bases with the 6 bolts

[midniteblues]

so by reading this all i'm guessing what i found are replacement hubs and not oe ones.
i never gave a thought to look at the spid in the truck to see if it came with locking hubs

on the link above the bases looked like the ones on the right in the third pic down.

and in classics post they are identical to the lower lefts, knob and chrome ring
are these even spicers? cant see a name on his box.

the jy wants $25 for both of them are they worth grabbing. they looked nice and turned freely.

the general idea is to have the option to install these in place of my slugs
but if they are not worth it i'll save my dough.


i'm going back to get the front leaf springs since one of mine are broke and they are the only 3 leafers i can find locally i'm having them burned off since 9 times outa 10 the sleeves are siezed in the spring eye and shackles.

i just might have to grab the tow hooks off the front too

[57taskforce]

If it's got factory hooks on the front that's the first thing I'd grab! The lower left picture classic posted are factory 1/2 ton hubs.

[undertaker72]

Sounds like its a half ton didcit have 8 or 6 lug wheels

[midniteblues]

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

If it's got factory hooks on the front that's the first thing I'd grab! The lower left picture classic posted are factory 1/2 ton hubs.

i just noticed that on his post but this truck is definitly 8 lug perhaps i got the outer ring wrong but they had those knobs.

after my search i've never noticed a egg shaped ten bolt like that pic above.
i allway thought a ten bolt front axle looked pretty much like a corp 8.5 ten bolt like my camaro or s10(zr2) round not egged

i'm SLOWLY learnin here guys.

yes yes yes the hooks no doubt i couldnt get them off yesterday or i would've just too swampy with the melt going on and all the muck. they'll pick it up tommarow then i'll have at them and the hubs.

it was a 292 4 spd 3/4 ton truck at least whats left of it.

[undertaker72]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

i just noticed that on his post but this truck is definitly 8 lug perhaps i got the outer ring wrong but they had those knobs.

after my search i've never noticed a egg shaped ten bolt like that pic above.
i allway thought a ten bolt front axle looked pretty much like a corp 8.5 ten bolt like my camaro or s10(zr2) round not egged

i'm SLOWLY learnin here guys.

yes yes yes the hooks no doubt i couldnt get them off yesterday or i would've just too swampy with the melt going on and all the muck. they'll pick it up tommarow then i'll have at them and the hubs.

it was a 292 4 spd 3/4 ton truck at least whats left of it.

theres a bunch of us that would lay in a hog pen to unbolt factory tow hooks , its all in the chase

[57taskforce]

Originally Posted by undertaker72

theres a bunch of us that would lay in a hog pen to unbolt factory tow hooks , its all in the chase

Amen to that Kevin!

[midniteblues]

well i agree with with the hog pen.
being there sat afternoon at 2 and they closed at 3 and not open sunday seeing the muck that dang near snatched my rocky boot right off my foot ruined my socks(who care about socks when you spot hooks) he suggested we do this 930 mon morn when nobody is there.
he gotta pick the truck up with the loader(if it dont get stuck) to burn off the springs kinda know(fingers crossed) they would still be there.
this guy runs the yard alone and i dont believe he knows about HOOKS besides all i had was a 1/4" drive.

thanks guys as this thread progressed you'all can see i have know idea what i was looking at i'll retreive my finding tommarrow and report back

[special-K]

They were probably Superwinch hubs. They have blue dials. The aftermarket K/20 hubs are internal. The dial ring is about the same diameter as 1/2t, closer to 2", with a larger mounting flange closer to 3". The factory K/20 dial rings are full diameter with recessed allen head bolts. Any lockout hub for these trucks is worth getting. The whole axle is. I collect the aftermarket hubs and I know others do. I also like to use them. They are better parts than factory and everyone wants the factory stuff to be original, so they are overpriced. I'll worry about original when my truck is museum quality.

[Classic Bowties]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

i just noticed that on his post but this truck is definitly 8 lug perhaps i got the outer ring wrong but they had those knobs.

We play mostly with the 67-72's and am not real familiar with the next gen up, but am pretty sure the later 70's K/20's went to the lighter duty spicer hubs that we know as/call the 1/2 ton style, am thinking it was around 78 or so. Mel

[midniteblues]

i'm just gonna grab them no matter what. after all i been beatin the 7 local yards around here for months since i got this 71 and havent seen any lockouts at all.
except a set i saw on my first outing back in oct when i started scrounging for this truck but i noticed they were 1/2 tons when i went back to get them.
thats when i decided to pass on them cause that yards prices are salty.
they were warns but not what i needed and they are gone now.

I really only went there cause i was in the area and figured i would stop to have a quick look see since it was still open...glad i did

thanks for the info guys i wouldve never thought of snap ring pliers.

i'll report back after i collect my bounty

[El Dorado Jim]

Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

The allens hold the chrome outer section. A snap ring on the axle and then the bolts remove the rest of it.

on the 3/4 ton spicers , the bolts are allen head . 3/8" x 3" long and hold the whole locking hub assembly onto the wheel hub....no other bolts