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**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 02-23-2016, 01:46 AM

One of our more knowledgeable posters pointed out the errors (cough!) on this truck, and I learned a thing or two also. The problem begins with the VIN, runs into the description and ends with multiple issues surrounding a SPID.

I'm sure the seller doesn't know any better........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301876792001...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://sunvalleyautosales.zenfolio.com/p184519485

toolboxchev · 02-23-2016, 02:29 AM

interesting, ...very interesting.

**special-K** · 02-23-2016, 08:54 AM

Some people will knock anything. This is a good truck for the money, from what I've seen for sale. What are the issues? They used a custom black Cheyenne Super seat cover on a Cheyenne? The WB area is damaged? I don't see any claims of what it is not. I guess I'm not knowledgeable. I don't see anything so grossly wrong with this listing to warrant a critical thread

EARNHARDT#3 · 02-23-2016, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Some people will knock anything. This is a good truck for the money, from what I've seen for sale. What are the issues? They used a custom black Cheyenne Super seat cover on a Cheyenne? The WB area is damaged? I don't see any claims of what it is not. I guess I'm not knowledgeable. I don't see anything so grossly wrong with this listing to warrant a critical thread

Yeah I agree. Besides, this isn't a concours car or some numbers matching big block Chevy from the 60's. It's a truck.

doo142 · 02-23-2016, 09:26 AM

Ignorance is bliss !! I'd roll in that ol girl like nobodies business !! But without knocking it I'd like to be schooled!!

**Jeff's bowtie's** · 02-23-2016, 09:28 AM

Only thing I see wrong is the cab could use a white top just my preference

1968aj · 02-23-2016, 09:31 AM

with the fresh scratches on the spid my first thought would be that they made it a shortbed. I don't have a problem with that. just be honest about it. I would look under the truck at the frame. if done right it could be stronger than the rest of the frame. I have a truck that has been cut that I bought knowing it was cut.

NoNeck · 02-23-2016, 09:34 AM

I agree. It looks like a really nice truck.

Even with the big scratches in the SPID wheelbase box across what appears to read "127".

And these old eyes might be deceiving me, but that short bed looks to be about 6" too short in the photos. I've gotta get new glasses.

POP

**Joesjunk** · 02-23-2016, 09:40 AM

They list the vin # as CS, that would be a 6 cylinder truck, but the spid lists a 350. No picture of the vin tag that I saw though. Nice looking truck though

**Joesjunk** · 02-23-2016, 09:43 AM

Found the vin pic, it's was a 6 cylinder by the vin #, but not the spid. Somethings not right

FlameOut · 02-23-2016, 09:45 AM

I'd drive it. I'd never pay that $19,000 price tag, but it's still a nice looking driver for around half that price

**Grumpy old man** · 02-23-2016, 09:55 AM

Very few of the "new" buyers really care if it's correct or not because it will end up LSed and dropped on the ground . There only original once , and true original correct clean trucks are hard to find already , Being correct is only relevant to the buyer .Once you replace or upgrade anything you may as well throw spid info away .
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**special-K** · 02-23-2016, 10:01 AM

I didn't look at the VIN, just the pictures and read the description. I'd say good eye but I guess I just missed something obvious. That'll make you wonder, though it could just be a wrongly printed SPID. The scratched off WB is suspect. But, I don't know when it was done and w/o looking at the truck it's all speculation. If I was buying the truck I would certainly have that verified, as with any SWB these days. I'd call this better than a driver.

midniteblues · 02-23-2016, 10:09 AM

its a nice looking truck sure seems like it was put together too maximize profit.
there are better deals out there to be had but it would make a nice driver.

CC69Rat · 02-23-2016, 10:39 AM

My bet would be a cab swap over to a SWB frame, and maybe the original tailgate from the LWB truck. The tailgate vs. bedsides look a little off (to me) and the Ochre 603 code would indicate a solid color truck if I am not mistaken (?) The white two tone looks a bit fresh compared to the wear around the rest of the truck.

BUT -- I'd love to have it, and I'd drive the wheels off of it, just like it is. An original SWB Cheyenne true V8 truck, in this condition would fetch more than $19k. Just my opinion. All you need is someone who wants the truck real bad and don't know a lot about it.

**70STOVEBOLT** · 02-23-2016, 10:56 AM

The listing on ebay has ended due to an error in the listing

**70STOVEBOLT** · 02-23-2016, 10:59 AM

Also according to that vin number, it is a 71 not a 72

**70STOVEBOLT** · 02-23-2016, 11:01 AM

What is code E81 "floor board"?

**Joesjunk** · 02-23-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 70STOVEBOLT

What is code E81 "floor board"?

That's the wood floor bed

**70STOVEBOLT** · 02-23-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Joesjunk

That's the wood floor bed

Ah, ok. Learn something new every day! Thanks for the info.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 02-23-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NoNeck

I agree. It looks like a really nice truck.

Even with the big scratches in the SPID wheelbase box across what appears to read "127".

And these old eyes might be deceiving me, but that short bed looks to be about 6" too short in the photos. I've gotta get new glasses.

POP

My eyes get worse everyday.....I don't see that "127".

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 02-23-2016, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Some people will knock anything. This is a good truck for the money, from what I've seen for sale. What are the issues? They used a custom black Cheyenne Super seat cover on a Cheyenne? The WB area is damaged? I don't see any claims of what it is not. I guess I'm not knowledgeable. I don't see anything so grossly wrong with this listing to warrant a critical thread

You're definitely knowledgeable K. I take your advice to heart.

The VIN within the description and the door jam plate suggest this is a 1971 6-cyl.

Per the description it's a 1972 350. I don't see where the SPID supports a 71 or 72.

Per the description the SPID supports this as a factory short bed. Couldn't tell you how they came to that conclusion.

Other than that it's a very cool truck.

73737373 · 02-23-2016, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

Very few of the "new" buyers really care if it's correct or not because it will end up LSed and dropped on the ground . There only original once , and true original correct clean trucks are hard to find already , Being correct is only relevant to the buyer .Once you replace or upgrade anything you may as well throw spid info away .
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Well said, Grumpy, well said.

**70STOVEBOLT** · 02-23-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

My eyes get worse everyday.....I don't see that "127".

Look at the pics in the other link (not ebay) there is a pic and you can barely make out the 7. If it were a shortbed, it would be 115.

toolboxchev · 02-23-2016, 02:08 PM

Ok it was a nice truck, and thanks to the members, this horse has left the chapel and headed up the hill!

02-23-2016, 01:46 AM	#1
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,205	Buyer beware One of our more knowledgeable posters pointed out the errors (cough!) on this truck, and I learned a thing or two also. The problem begins with the VIN, runs into the description and ends with multiple issues surrounding a SPID. I'm sure the seller doesn't know any better........ http://www.ebay.com/itm/301876792001...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT http://sunvalleyautosales.zenfolio.com/p184519485 __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 02-23-2016 at 02:02 AM.

02-23-2016, 02:29 AM	#2
toolboxchev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: 2nd left past the stump on a dirt road. Posts: 2,629	Re: Buyer beware interesting, ...very interesting.

02-23-2016, 09:26 AM	#5
doo142 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bristol,In. Posts: 1,116	Re: Buyer beware Ignorance is bliss !! I'd roll in that ol girl like nobodies business !! But without knocking it I'd like to be schooled!!

02-23-2016, 09:28 AM	#6
Jeff's bowtie's Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Kearneysville Wv Posts: 3,938	Re: Buyer beware Only thing I see wrong is the cab could use a white top just my preference

02-23-2016, 09:31 AM	#7
1968aj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: houston texas Posts: 1,438	Re: Buyer beware with the fresh scratches on the spid my first thought would be that they made it a shortbed. I don't have a problem with that. just be honest about it. I would look under the truck at the frame. if done right it could be stronger than the rest of the frame. I have a truck that has been cut that I bought knowing it was cut.

02-23-2016, 08:54 AM	#3
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Buyer beware Some people will knock anything. This is a good truck for the money, from what I've seen for sale. What are the issues? They used a custom black Cheyenne Super seat cover on a Cheyenne? The WB area is damaged? I don't see any claims of what it is not. I guess I'm not knowledgeable. I don't see anything so grossly wrong with this listing to warrant a critical thread __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-23-2016, 09:34 AM	#8
NoNeck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,108	Re: Buyer beware I agree. It looks like a really nice truck. Even with the big scratches in the SPID wheelbase box across what appears to read "127". And these old eyes might be deceiving me, but that short bed looks to be about 6" too short in the photos. I've gotta get new glasses. POP __________________ 2016 RAM Laramie HEMI 1966 Fairlane GT/A, 390/335 HP If it costs you a dollar to make a friend, KEEP THE DOLLAR. If it costs you a friend to make a dollar, KEEP THE FRIEND.

02-23-2016, 09:40 AM	#9
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,691	Re: Buyer beware They list the vin # as CS, that would be a 6 cylinder truck, but the spid lists a 350. No picture of the vin tag that I saw though. Nice looking truck though __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

02-23-2016, 09:43 AM	#10
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,691	Re: Buyer beware Found the vin pic, it's was a 6 cylinder by the vin #, but not the spid. Somethings not right Attached Images __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

02-23-2016, 09:45 AM	#11
FlameOut Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 712	Re: Buyer beware I'd drive it. I'd never pay that $19,000 price tag, but it's still a nice looking driver for around half that price __________________ Bill 2004 Chevy Silverado Z71 Ext Cab 1500 1972 Chevy K-10 SOLD 1967 Chevelle SS

02-23-2016, 09:55 AM	#12
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Buyer beware Very few of the "new" buyers really care if it's correct or not because it will end up LSed and dropped on the ground . There only original once , and true original correct clean trucks are hard to find already , Being correct is only relevant to the buyer .Once you replace or upgrade anything you may as well throw spid info away . Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by Grumpy old man; 02-23-2016 at 10:01 AM.

02-23-2016, 10:01 AM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Buyer beware I didn't look at the VIN, just the pictures and read the description. I'd say good eye but I guess I just missed something obvious. That'll make you wonder, though it could just be a wrongly printed SPID. The scratched off WB is suspect. But, I don't know when it was done and w/o looking at the truck it's all speculation. If I was buying the truck I would certainly have that verified, as with any SWB these days. I'd call this better than a driver. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-23-2016, 10:09 AM	#14
midniteblues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: strausstown pa Posts: 3,394	Re: Buyer beware its a nice looking truck sure seems like it was put together too maximize profit. there are better deals out there to be had but it would make a nice driver. __________________ 81 camaro 355 4/spd 342 posi my first love. 67 swb step 454/4spd ott 373 posi 4/7 drop. 2000 s10 zr2 little blue truck that never gets stuck. '74 heald super bronc vt8. tecumseh powered moon rover.

02-23-2016, 10:39 AM	#15
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Buyer beware My bet would be a cab swap over to a SWB frame, and maybe the original tailgate from the LWB truck. The tailgate vs. bedsides look a little off (to me) and the Ochre 603 code would indicate a solid color truck if I am not mistaken (?) The white two tone looks a bit fresh compared to the wear around the rest of the truck. BUT -- I'd love to have it, and I'd drive the wheels off of it, just like it is. An original SWB Cheyenne true V8 truck, in this condition would fetch more than $19k. Just my opinion. All you need is someone who wants the truck real bad and don't know a lot about it. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

02-23-2016, 10:56 AM	#16
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,265	Re: Buyer beware The listing on ebay has ended due to an error in the listing __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear



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02-23-2016, 10:59 AM	#17
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,265	Re: Buyer beware Also according to that vin number, it is a 71 not a 72 __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

02-23-2016, 11:01 AM	#18
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,265	Re: Buyer beware What is code E81 "floor board"? __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Power windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

02-23-2016, 02:08 PM	#25
toolboxchev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: 2nd left past the stump on a dirt road. Posts: 2,629	Re: Buyer beware Ok it was a nice truck, and thanks to the members, this horse has left the chapel and headed up the hill!

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