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cheyenne10 · 09-23-2003, 01:16 PM

Can someone explain to me why I some of the aucitons that seem to run high on price have several bidders with 0,1, etc feedback instead of those with more?

Are sellers being duped by phony bidders or are they bidding their own stuff up or ??

I've seen a couple of auctions mentioned on here that fit this description.

Joe67 · 09-23-2003, 01:24 PM

I think the % of fraudlant bids is pretty low.

Sure a seller can have a buddy bid up their items, but I think most of the ending high bids are valid. Then again I'm an optimist with years of ebay experience

1972chevy4x4 · 09-23-2003, 01:45 PM

I have had problems with individuals with low feedback bidding up to just find the reserve prices and then once they won the auctions are never heard from again. This has happened to me on six auctions related to our trucks and/or parts for our trucks, so I have included lately in my auctions that I will cancel bids by zero or one feedback without first email contact. Hope this does'nt pull you away from ebay auctions but makes you aware there are some out there who are just playing around.

**StingRay** · 09-23-2003, 01:46 PM

I too have notice that and am also of the opinion that people are are fraudlently bidding the price up. I won't bid on that kind of auction but if an individual already has a proxy bid in others can keep bumping his final price up as long as it is not exceeded.

palallin · 09-23-2003, 02:00 PM

There is also the fact that low numbers sometimes indicate newbies who are less well versed in the prices they have to pay.

Slammed67 · 09-23-2003, 02:33 PM

Yep! Newbies will keep bidding to remain the high bidder throughout the auction. This makes no sense as they are just raising the price that THEY will have to pay for the item. Either bid your highest price (once) and walk away or if you are determined to win an auction, bid at the last minute.

Joe67 · 09-23-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Slammed67
Yep! Newbies will keep bidding to remain the high bidder throughout the auction. This makes no sense as they are just raising the price that THEY will have to pay for the item. Either bid your highest price (once) and walk away or if you are determined to win an auction, bid at the last minute.

Huh? They only bid higher when someone else outbids them...

Best bet is to put a max bid out there, the most you'll pay for an item and let it ride. If it gets 'sniped' at the last minute, it was more then you wanted to really pay anyway

Slammed67 · 09-23-2003, 02:42 PM

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Huh? They only bid higher when someone else outbids them...

Exactly! Why get in a bidding war if you don't need to??? If you and one other person are bidding back and forth, it's going to drive the price up. Why not wait until the last minute and start bidding? Unless the other guy is watching the auction closely, he won't have a chance to counter your bid(s).

Joe67 · 09-23-2003, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Slammed67

Exactly! Why get in a bidding war if you don't need to??? If you and one other person are bidding back and forth, it's going to drive the price up. Why not wait until the last minute and start bidding? Unless the other guy is watching the auction closely, he won't have a chance to counter your bid(s).

Gotcha.
That would work for people who will be at a computer when the auction ends. Sniping can be fun if you do it right

More often than not, there are others interested and bidding gets interesting.

Fred T · 09-23-2003, 03:07 PM

A lot of it falls under "auction fever". Someone new to the process gets to bidding on something and doesn't have the common sense to know when to stop. I've even done it once, and when I wrote the check it was, why the hey did I do that?

boraxman · 09-23-2003, 03:45 PM

There are sites that will snipe for you...do a search.

**StingRay** · 09-23-2003, 03:53 PM

If you look at the kinds of auctions he is talking about it looks suspiciously like their buddies are fraudlently pushing up the price so the final price is higher. The people that used proxy bids and bid the amount they were "willing" to pay may have gotten it for substantially less if the price wasn't pushed up. If the buddy exceeds the max bid the seller can cry non paying bidder and the 0 feed back buddy has nothing to lose. The seller can re-list or offer it up to the next highest bidder through E-bay at no cost. It is very easy to scam or be scammed on e-bay........ and E-bay doesn't give a $hit. Sometimes there are newbies but when two or three bidders with 0 or 1 feedback are bumping the price it looks real suspicious

sameyrasmea72 · 09-23-2003, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by StingRay
If you look at the kinds of auctions he us talking about it looks suspiciously like their buddies are fraudlently pushing up the price so the final price is higher. The people that used proxy bids and bid the amount they were "willing" to pay may have gotten it for substantially less if the price wasn't pushed up. If the buddy exceeds the max bid the seller can cry non paying bidder and the 0 feed back buddy has nothing to lose. The seller can re-list or offer it up to the next highest bidder through E-bay at no cost. It is very easy to scam or be scammed on e-bay........ and E-bay doesn't give a $hit. Sometimes there are newbies but when two or three bidders with 0 or 1 feedback are bumping the price it looks real suspicious

Possible. But not case with the two zero's(not my buddies, but I can't tell you what they ARE) that won my last two auctions (same item I might add).Sorry for the upcoming rant Bob, but you did link me ...lol

In my opinion ebay is a pretty good place to buy something. If you get taken for as a buyer, its your own fault. I mean do your homework.I know there are exceptions, like when the seller is an arrr--tist at ripping people off,but it is the selling that difficult,because you have less control.The next car I have a to sell, I would rather push it off a cliff the try ebay And i know there some precations like bid restrictions and cancellations, but sometimes that dont work.I Guess i am not used to being raked over the coals. It kinda reminds me of the Duke line,
"I WON'T BE WRONGED I WON'T BE INSULTED AND I WON'T BE LAYED A HAND ON, I DON'T DO THESE THING TO OTHERS AND I REQUIRE THE SAME FROM THEM" .
Bad thing is I can't just shoot the guy(s), Can I ??? I am not a newbie to ebay, just a small timer. 20 trans. over several years,+feedback 100% , not bragging, just making a point.
The first guy uses the "buy it now" option and stoppes the auction right when it was about to good. Way after payment due, I finally get this " no I don't want the truck I made a mistake."Mistake my ass. It's not you hit the "buy it now" button and boom you win. You had to fill in something. The 2nd guy I think had some good intentions, but good intentions are like......Whatever that old saying is. He asked ?'s recieved extra pics, tried to buy it out right,but nada after he won.

Something fishy about the 2nd one, and I may be paranoid at this point, but switch a few letters in the u-name,looks kinda familiar around. Probably nothing but I just looking for answers somewhere.
+he changed email adresses on me

09-23-2003, 01:16 PM	#1
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	Ebay Bidders/sellers Can someone explain to me why I some of the aucitons that seem to run high on price have several bidders with 0,1, etc feedback instead of those with more? Are sellers being duped by phony bidders or are they bidding their own stuff up or ?? I've seen a couple of auctions mentioned on here that fit this description. __________________ Bob

09-23-2003, 01:24 PM	#2
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,738	I think the % of fraudlant bids is pretty low. Sure a seller can have a buddy bid up their items, but I think most of the ending high bids are valid. Then again I'm an optimist with years of ebay experience __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

09-23-2003, 01:45 PM	#3
1972chevy4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita Kansas Posts: 223	I have had problems with individuals with low feedback bidding up to just find the reserve prices and then once they won the auctions are never heard from again. This has happened to me on six auctions related to our trucks and/or parts for our trucks, so I have included lately in my auctions that I will cancel bids by zero or one feedback without first email contact. Hope this does'nt pull you away from ebay auctions but makes you aware there are some out there who are just playing around. __________________ 1972 chevy k10 4x4 longbed 4-inch lift, 3.73 front/rears, frame off nearly complete 1972 chevy k10 4x4 longbed parts truck, known as the "ugly green machine" 1990 GMC 3/4 shortbed ext cab Always in need of 67-72 parts in central ks.

09-23-2003, 01:46 PM	#4
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	I too have notice that and am also of the opinion that people are are fraudlently bidding the price up. I won't bid on that kind of auction but if an individual already has a proxy bid in others can keep bumping his final price up as long as it is not exceeded. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

09-23-2003, 02:00 PM	#5
palallin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. James, MO Posts: 1,239	There is also the fact that low numbers sometimes indicate newbies who are less well versed in the prices they have to pay. __________________ '69 Longstep K-10: 327/SM465/T-221/Closed Knuckle Dana44/12-bolt. Last edited by palallin; 09-23-2003 at 03:51 PM.

09-23-2003, 02:33 PM	#6
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Yep! Newbies will keep bidding to remain the high bidder throughout the auction. This makes no sense as they are just raising the price that THEY will have to pay for the item. Either bid your highest price (once) and walk away or if you are determined to win an auction, bid at the last minute. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

09-23-2003, 03:07 PM	#10
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	A lot of it falls under "auction fever". Someone new to the process gets to bidding on something and doesn't have the common sense to know when to stop. I've even done it once, and when I wrote the check it was, why the hey did I do that? __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

09-23-2003, 03:45 PM	#11
boraxman Keepin an eye out Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: So.Cal Posts: 3,921	There are sites that will snipe for you...do a search. __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 SWB 5.3 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4 2007 Vespa GTS 250 Scooter ZIP 91351

09-23-2003, 03:53 PM	#12
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	If you look at the kinds of auctions he is talking about it looks suspiciously like their buddies are fraudlently pushing up the price so the final price is higher. The people that used proxy bids and bid the amount they were "willing" to pay may have gotten it for substantially less if the price wasn't pushed up. If the buddy exceeds the max bid the seller can cry non paying bidder and the 0 feed back buddy has nothing to lose. The seller can re-list or offer it up to the next highest bidder through E-bay at no cost. It is very easy to scam or be scammed on e-bay........ and E-bay doesn't give a $hit. Sometimes there are newbies but when two or three bidders with 0 or 1 feedback are bumping the price it looks real suspicious __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Last edited by StingRay; 09-23-2003 at 08:32 PM.



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