Help ID K10 Steering Gear - 67 or later?

[ohboy321]

I have a 67 K10 with power steering, and I want to replace the steering gear. Although my VIN and cab are 67, I am not sure about the rest of the truck.

Someone in another thread mentioned that the 67 K10 did NOT have a dimple in the frame near the steering gear.

Can someone help me ID the steering gear/frame from the picture below? If it is not a 67 gear all the better, as I do not see anyone listing refurbished units for that year. Plenty available for 68-72 though.

Thanks for the help.
-Steve

[CUSTOM/10]

I don't have a definitive answer for you, but your frame looks to be a 69 or newer. The radiator mounting bracket / spring mount are different on the 67-68 frames. If you look on top of the frame rail near the steering box there should be a number stamped into the frame. This is the vin # and if original to the truck it would match or partially match the vin of the body.

Gary

[CUSTOM/10]

This might help you determine what year your frame is, I also put a link to it if you can't read it.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cb/t.aspx?Page=8

[57taskforce]

67 4x4 didn't have that style steering gear. It had ram assist. That doesn't look like a 67 frame to me. I've been wrong in the past tho.

[ohboy321]

Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10

This might help you determine what year your frame is, I also put a link to it if you can't read it.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cb/t.aspx?Page=8

Thanks Gary, I didn't know about the numbers on the frame. I can't read the LMC decode info on this laptop (even with glasses), but with the number and a little poking around in the forum I discovered that it is a 1970 frame.

It has an open knuckle front axle with drum brakes, which makes sense now. This is a huge help when servicing the chassis items.

VIN/cab is 67, chassis is 70, 327 is 66. All my wife can think of is the Johnny Cash classic, "One Piece at a Time"

-Steve

[ohboy321]

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

67 4x4 didn't have that style steering gear. It had ram assist. That doesn't look like a 67 frame to me. I've been wrong in the past tho.

With the replies so far I dug some more and from referencing the online Chassis Service Manuals see the difference between the 2 types.

I am glad I have the newer version, and have already ordered a replacement.

For reference, my frame number is 0Z161077. I read that as 1970 made at the Fremont plant.

-Steve

[Bigdav160]

Hopefully someone with that VIN doesn't want his frame back.

[CUSTOM/10]

Hey Steve,

Here in NH, as long as none of the part numbers /vin numbers show up as stolen you can get a new vin for an assembled vehicle. It would need to be inspected' and all numbers found recorded by a state trooper or possibly by a reg car dealer. Or if it was already reg or titled all that's needed is a bill of sale for a vehicle that old.

Gary

[ohboy321]

Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10

Hey Steve,

Here in NH, as long as none of the part numbers /vin numbers show up as stolen you can get a new vin for an assembled vehicle. It would need to be inspected' and all numbers found recorded by a state trooper or possibly by a reg car dealer. Or if it was already reg or titled all that's needed is a bill of sale for a vehicle that old.

Gary

Garry, Lucky for me the previous owner had it registered in NH when I bought it, so I was able to register it the same day I brought it home. I may apply for a title at some point, just to have one for it.

While I wait for the rebuilt steering gear to be delivered, I adjusted the one I have to see if I could take some play out. It helped a little, but I will be glad to get the replacement installed.

-Steve