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Old 07-15-2016, 08:01 AM   #1
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TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

Hey guys!

The I6 in my '64 C10 1/2 ton is tired and getting swapped for a '65 283 and I'm now planning on a TH200-4R. Going to look at a trans tomorrow and the guy didn't have much to offer beyond, "it worked fine when I pulled it out of my Blazer and it is complete." I've done a bit of reading, but still have questions.

First: What do I need to look for on this TH200-4R? I read there are some years that are better than others, but it's going to be gone through anyway, so what should I know?

Second: My '64 currently is the standard 3 on the tree arrangement. What do I need to know about making the column shift work with this OD trans? I don't want to switch columns and can make some cover plates or whatever needs to be done.

Any help would be appreciate here guys!

On a side note... searching for threads gets a little tough when these transmissions are called TH200-4R's, 200r4's, 2004rs, and so on and so forth. So if there's a good thread that I'm missing in a search, please point me in the right direction.

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Old 07-15-2016, 11:59 AM   #2
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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

I'll add another question...

Torque converters: I plan to tow with this truck on occasion (read once in a blue moon), maybe a small car on a trailer or a load of building supplies that might be too large for the fleet side short bed. Do I really need to opt for a "Truck/Towing" converter just for the few times I'll maybe pull a trailer with a load? I need to be able to use the truck as a TRUCK, but in the grand scheme of things, I'm not going to be pulling heavy construction equipment or Sherman tanks on a trailer.

Thoughts?
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Old 07-15-2016, 12:54 PM   #3
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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

have the mods move this to the engine & drivetrain section. I would say you would need a auto column or a floor shift.
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:25 PM   #4
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Old 07-15-2016, 04:01 PM   #5
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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

Ahh! Sorry guys! I was thinking since it had column discussions for a 60-66 I was in the right place. Thanks for moving it and sorry for the hassle!
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Old 07-15-2016, 04:06 PM   #6
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I would say you would need a auto column or a floor shift.
Thanks man!

Column swap would be easier for sure. I was thinking I saw a clever way to make the manual shift column work. I could have completely imagined that, though.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:21 PM   #7
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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

Just making sure you know that blazers never came with the 200-4R, only cars had them. No, you do not need a different convertor to tow with it.
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Just making sure you know that blazers never came with the 200-4R, only cars had them. No, you do not need a different convertor to tow with it.
Yeah, I didn't think they came with them. That's just all the guy could tell me about them. HA!

I was thinking that a converter specified for towing was a bit overkill for just the occasional load tow. Thanks!
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Okay... I just grabbed up a TH200-4R for cheap and it looks really good, as far as I can see with it sitting in front of me. Only thing it's missing is the fill tube because he swapped it over to the other transmission he installed.

Only thing I noticed after I got home was that the output shaft was a tad loose. I've not messed with one of these, but I'm guessing it's normal when the yoke is not installed... orrrrrrr did I just buy a pile of crap? HA!
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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

200 series transmissions don't have a Case Bushing like all other GM transmissions too support the Output Shaft, A lot of movement is normal.
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Old 07-17-2016, 07:43 PM   #11
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200 series transmissions don't have a Case Bushing like all other GM transmissions too support the Output Shaft, A lot of movement is normal.
PHEW! Okay! Good deal! I was thinking that was the case, but freaked out for a moment.

It was suggested that he thought it might have come out of a Monte Carlo. The tag has a number that reads 094-2T85CH1084. What do I have here? Not sure I'm looking at the right numbers.

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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

Answering my own question here. Looks like the transmission has the dual mounting pattern confirming what the guy told me, probably 85 Monte with a 305, based on the CH code.

Now I need to figure out this locking/non-locking thing and the electrical portion.
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Re: TH200-4R in a '64 - Trans and Install Questions

I used a bowtie overdrives lockup kit, wired it up to 2 switches- one would let the trans lock by itself in 4th, the other was a manual lockup whenever I flipped the switch. Don't run in 4th without lockup.
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I used a bowtie overdrives lockup kit, wired it up to 2 switches- one would let the trans lock by itself in 4th, the other was a manual lockup whenever I flipped the switch. Don't run in 4th without lockup.
Excellent! I'll take a look at that. I appreciate the info!
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I used a bowtie overdrives lockup kit, wired it up to 2 switches- one would let the trans lock by itself in 4th, the other was a manual lockup whenever I flipped the switch. Don't run in 4th without lockup.
Is this the one?

https://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cat...php?ITEMID=343
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