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Old 08-05-2016, 09:06 PM   #1
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L31 crate- what kinda cam?

How big of a cam can a person put into a L31 350 SBC crate motor can handle without major mods?
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:50 AM   #2
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

what I've always seen is .470 lift is where you might want to start checking retainer and seal clearances. I've also seen .480. for reference, the cam used in chevy's Vortec-headed RamJet motor gives .481 lift with the 1.6 ratio rockers that engine uses.

that cam is the one I used in my L31, but with the 1.5 rockers (.451 lift)
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:33 PM   #3
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what I've always seen is .470 lift is where you might want to start checking retainer and seal clearances. I've also seen .480. for reference, the cam used in chevy's Vortec-headed RamJet motor gives .481 lift with the 1.6 ratio rockers that engine uses.

that cam is the one I used in my L31, but with the 1.5 rockers (.451 lift)
thanks for the info.
I have looked at some of the Lunati Voddo Cams and others but it appears they all have around .500 lift or more
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Old 08-06-2016, 09:17 PM   #4
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thanks for the info.
I have looked at some of the Lunati Voddo Cams and others but it appears they all have around .500 lift or more
I just had my heads done & just with a spring change they are good to .525. He did recommend I install screw in studs with that lift though. Cost me $250 and 2 days. I'm going with the Voodoo cam as well.
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Old 08-06-2016, 10:24 PM   #5
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

Call the cam company of your choice and have what you want made. a 230/230 (@.050) cam with .460/.460 lift won't be a problem- nor any other...
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:40 AM   #6
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

I did a lot of assuming when I read your post. I assumed this was a new, "in-the-crate" engine and I should have asked what you meant by "major mods". I drew the line on my new crate at simply swapping the cam.

Willi2Ds has a good point about the studs

if your definition of "major mods" is different than mine, there is a simple "mod" you can make to the spring retainers to increase lift (see the last part of this post: http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showpo...35&postcount=2 )

and, although I didn't check it out, here is a cam someone suggested a couple of years ago: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...54&postcount=2

**you might want to ask the moderator to move this thread to the Engine and Drivetrain section, you may pick up a lot more replies
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:49 AM   #7
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

Moving thread to correct section.
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:01 PM   #8
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:14 PM   #9
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

I just installed one of these in my truck, http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=4578&gid=289 FWIW
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

Just swap in a Ram Jet 350/HT 383 cam with a set of 1.6 rockers. Check the pushrod clearance going thru the head with the 1.6 rockers. Even if you have to stay with 1.5 rockers, that will make a strong running engine. Both Comp and Lunati make roller cams with less than .500 lift.
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Old 08-13-2016, 06:55 PM   #11
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Just swap in a Ram Jet 350/HT 383 cam with a set of 1.6 rockers. Check the pushrod clearance going thru the head with the 1.6 rockers. Even if you have to stay with 1.5 rockers, that will make a strong running engine. Both Comp and Lunati make roller cams with less than .500 lift.
Thanks for all replys. Captain, I would like a mild lumpy idle, and curious as to how your cam selection would sound and what type of horse power it would produce.
Thanks again
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:43 PM   #12
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

I don't know if this is going to work (I have to click on the "options" buttons on the upper right and tell it to download). taken with my phone, sound quality is terrible. this is the ramjet cam with stock L31 1.5 rockers:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...4xOXhINlFhYVNn
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:38 AM   #13
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That sounds pretty healthy! 👍
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:18 AM   #14
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Re: L31 crate- what kinda cam?

I ended up putting a xe268 cam in my 357. No other valvetrain mods. As long as you stay near .490 lift and don't go over on factory heads to will be ok
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I ended up putting a xe268 cam in my 357. No other valvetrain mods. As long as you stay near .490 lift and don't go over on factory heads to will be ok
I went with Comp Cams XR258HR roller cam (P/N 12-408-8) which has 0.480/0.487" lift and 206/212 duration at 0.05" lift. It makes the same amount of torque as your xe268 cam just at 100 rpm lower. Peak HP for my cam is 325 @ 4400 RPM where as yours is 342 @ 5000 RPM. Those cams are close in performance with the edge in low end torque going to my cam.

I can say I am happy with the response and power I get from my engine with this cam. When I chose my cam I asked the machinist to make sure there was enough clearance to the seals and he clearance them enough to cover a cam with 0.500 lift in case I decide to go a little bigger in the future. Bottom line is check the clearance, don't assume you have enough to run a 0.480/0.490 lift cam. There's enough articles on the vortec heads to suggest that they only have enough clearance for about 0.470 lift.
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