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Old 09-08-2016, 12:12 PM   #1
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Asbestos or not in these old trucks

Hello everyone,

I have tried to get info on any asbestos containing materials used in these old trucks, I have a 1966 short wide. I have not had too much luck finding solid evidence, but have narrowed it down to the most common "large quantity" suspect materials, which are; the original black rubber/tar floormat, the firewall insulation in the cab, and the undercoating. Now, I know there is certainly a concern with brake dust, and I hope everyone knows that going in, brake dust should be common knowledge..?

My point being this;
I have taken samples of each of those items out of my truck and they are currently at an asbestos testing lab in Dallas for analysis. By this time next week I will know as fact if these 3 items i have listed are "hot"

I will immediately post results here in this thread so everyone here that has asked the question in the past will have an answer based in fact.

IMO, everyone should be aware of any potential health hazards from this stuff before diving in and tearing out something that is harmful to your health.
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Old 09-08-2016, 04:51 PM   #2
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

Good idea on the shaving cream
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:55 AM   #3
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

IT will be too late for many of us. I had my cab dipped, so I'm going to live forever......
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Old 09-09-2016, 05:16 PM   #4
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you're going to get acid reflex if you've been dipped---
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:36 PM   #5
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

Subscribed. Thank you and please do post your results. I'd also be interested to see exact pictures of the material you had tested.
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:30 AM   #6
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

if that is the case what about lead in the paint?
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Old 09-11-2016, 11:46 AM   #7
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

And don’t forget about hitting your head when you work on the truck, you could go into a coma.
Or cut your hand (or leg) on the rust and get lock-jaw.
Or slip on the oil (or grease) on the floor and break your hip.
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:54 PM   #8
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

there is also a mat between the roof panels , kinda like thick tar paper.
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Old 09-12-2016, 05:40 AM   #9
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

I think you'd probably have to eat all those asbestos containing materials to harm yourself but to each his own.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:09 AM   #10
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This is called letting your mind wander a little too much
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:39 AM   #11
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you better sell that old truck just to be safe LOL.
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Old 09-13-2016, 07:49 PM   #12
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yea I need parts, better sell while you can lol
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

Tough crowd. Looking forward to the test results, better to be informed.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:33 PM   #14
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

Places asbestos will likely be:
Exhaust donuts between manifold and exhaust pipe.
"Cloth" covering on wiring.
Gaskets
Choke tube "cloth" covering.
Brakes.
Clutch.
any white paper insulation in gauges or lights.
Possible pads in gas tank straps.
Bakelite parts like switch knobs, window crank knobs, switch blocks inside switches, starter solenoid insulators and fuse blocks.
It MAY be in seam sealers and caulks from that era.
If it IS in the floor mats or tar coatings, unless you dissolve or burn the mats or tars, you will not release asbestos.
Many of the old paints and primers DO contain lead, which was also used as body filler/solder on the exterior.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:26 PM   #15
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

wow, this IS a tough crowd...

I understand that some think that this stuff is nothing to particularly worry about, and some would literally sell the truck if any is discovered. Im not going to have an abatement company come put a bubble over my truck and tear this stuff out with Haz Mat suits...BUT, I work in an industry that has made me keenly aware of the dangers of asbestos, and I do take that seriously, but I'm not they type to sell my truck because of it, I just know enough to want to be aware so I can take the proper precautions that I feel are necessary to ME.
Nothing wrong with that IMO.

@flyinghamster..good list, I was aware of most of these as well. I am primarily focusing on the stuff that I will be "disturbing" by pulling out, sanding, grinding, etc, thus possibly releasing the fibers.

I sent the samples off early week this week, I have not received the results yet, but should have them early next week, I will post results for everyones info.

As far as the specific items i sent off:
1. The firewall mat inside the cab underneath the dash.
2. the original rubber floor mat and the tar like mat underneath it
3. the factory undercoating on the frame/underside of the truck.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:52 PM   #16
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

Thank you. This is exactly the type of thread that needs to be here. More useful than the "Show me your fill in the blank" threads.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:50 AM   #17
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Re: Asbestos or not in these old trucks

OK, so the Asbestos testing results are in. These were analyzed by a NVLAP certified/licensed Asbestos testing lab in Dallas TX, using the PLM/DS method.

I took samples of 3 materials as follows:

1. The fiberous brown firewall insulation inside the cab:
NO asbestos detected, The fiberous content is 60% Cellulose, 20% cotton, and 20% Synthetic

2. Black floor mat and tar-like substance it is stuck down with:
NO asbestos detected, The fiberous content is 15% Cellulose

3. Black undercoating under the truck (everywhere):
NO asbestos

good news all the way around!
I hope this helps out for what it is worth.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:15 AM   #18
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Thanks for getting it tested. All good information.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:23 AM   #19
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Good info. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:42 AM   #20
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Awesome thanks for doing that man. The thought definitely crossed my mind when I was tearing out the firewall insulation.
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:47 PM   #21
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Thank you for posting these results!!
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:48 PM   #23
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Thank you! Good to know!
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Thanks for letting us know. Great information! I own a 66 C10 Short wide bed Fleet side custom cab myself!
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