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Vdubluv82 · 09-19-2016, 11:28 PM

so here is my dilemma... I have a 69 C10 lwb that's I've been working on to move home with (currently still in the Marine Corps). I'm running a 350 and had issues with the alternator fitting with my new valve covers, so I fixed that with a new bracket. Not the problem is, my PS pump hits and I can't bolt it up and its way to close to the frame rail.

so the question part... looked into a remote reservoir set up and realized they are for a race set up and wont give me proper pressure until way high in the rpm range. I've also been looking at just putting a manual steering box in it. whats my best rout for this? has anyone done a remote setup, is the manual that bad?

Thanks for the help

1969c10joe · 09-20-2016, 01:15 AM

I have manual steering its ok cant reallyzip into parking spaces if you have huge tires steering effort goes up. Sorry icant advise on the actual swap. I like it its part of the character of my truck

Andy4639 · 09-20-2016, 02:51 AM

Can you post some pictures of the front of the motor and where the power steering goes?

If it's all factory I can't see how it wouldn't work. I have power steering in mine and it's fine. Well back when I had the factory setup anyway.

TwoFiftyShifter · 09-20-2016, 07:56 AM

The difference is huge. I don't have PS and it's fine but parking is a pain. I'm a professional driver and with this truck I find I'm parking a little crooked!

I've drive a 1970 with PS and it was night and day.

Aus69c20 · 09-20-2016, 08:25 AM

Not sure what what the exact problem is. But all big block trucks ran a remote reservoir.
A remote reservoir shouldn't make a difference to the pressure as it only holds the fluid for the pump.

JustToxic · 09-20-2016, 09:10 AM

The swap isn't too bad, you'd have to modify a few things hear and there. Overall tho, I'd recommend keeping power steering. There are a bunch of remote res. applications out there, not all racing set ups. If I have time today I'll see about trying to find one that might work. The other option you have is fab up a custom power steering mount.

Gmc.guy · 09-20-2016, 09:34 AM

Smallblock should have a short water pump and setup. Are you putting long water pump stuff on it? That might be your problem with clearance, I have 2 trucks manual and 2 power steering, I agree it fits the character of the truck, the big diameter original steering wheel makes the effort a bit less. I enjoy the leak free reliability on them. It would be simple enough to throw manual box on until you move and you can mess with it after and get everything working

1969c10joe · 09-20-2016, 03:20 PM

good point about the large diameter steering wheel I also have non power brakes I like the uncluttered look under the hood. price a manual steering gearbox not cheap

Vdubluv82 · 09-20-2016, 05:47 PM

It is a short pump and sorry for not clearing tge exact problem.

Stock p. S. Pump is mounted low on ds and with the altinator bracket, the resevoir is to long on the pump. It hits the alt and only gives about a half inch of play. I wont be able to get good belt tension or check fluid.

Im not oposed to running a remote set up and saw they came on some vehicals, but i wouldnt know which pump or bracket to use.

Gmc.guy · 09-20-2016, 06:29 PM

On my 69 I know the alt. Belt comes close to the p.s. Cap but there's lots of room to fill and tension It's tough to get a pic in there

Gmc.guy · 09-20-2016, 06:30 PM

Dang. Upside down

Andy4639 · 09-20-2016, 07:25 PM

I never had problems with mine. It was close and it was a pain to get the cap off but it did come off.

Vdubluv82 · 10-06-2016, 10:32 AM

Sorry it's taken so long to reply, here is the setup

Vdubluv82 · 10-08-2016, 05:13 PM

Bump

**Boog** · 10-08-2016, 07:36 PM

Here ya go Cody

Vdubluv82 · 10-08-2016, 07:40 PM

That was my stock setup, anyone running after market stuff or different pumps?

09-19-2016, 11:28 PM	#1
Vdubluv82 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 6	Power steering vs. manual, need some insite so here is my dilemma... I have a 69 C10 lwb that's I've been working on to move home with (currently still in the Marine Corps). I'm running a 350 and had issues with the alternator fitting with my new valve covers, so I fixed that with a new bracket. Not the problem is, my PS pump hits and I can't bolt it up and its way to close to the frame rail. so the question part... looked into a remote reservoir set up and realized they are for a race set up and wont give me proper pressure until way high in the rpm range. I've also been looking at just putting a manual steering box in it. whats my best rout for this? has anyone done a remote setup, is the manual that bad? Thanks for the help Attached Images

09-20-2016, 01:15 AM	#2
1969c10joe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: lompoc ca Posts: 228	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite I have manual steering its ok cant reallyzip into parking spaces if you have huge tires steering effort goes up. Sorry icant advise on the actual swap. I like it its part of the character of my truck

09-20-2016, 02:51 AM	#3
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Can you post some pictures of the front of the motor and where the power steering goes? If it's all factory I can't see how it wouldn't work. I have power steering in mine and it's fine. Well back when I had the factory setup anyway. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

09-20-2016, 07:56 AM	#4
TwoFiftyShifter Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Gwinnett GA Posts: 1,803	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite The difference is huge. I don't have PS and it's fine but parking is a pain. I'm a professional driver and with this truck I find I'm parking a little crooked! I've drive a 1970 with PS and it was night and day. __________________ 1982 K10 SWB 1987 V20 - Sold - Doh!

09-20-2016, 08:25 AM	#5
Aus69c20 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 231	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Not sure what what the exact problem is. But all big block trucks ran a remote reservoir. A remote reservoir shouldn't make a difference to the pressure as it only holds the fluid for the pump. __________________ John 69 c20, 396, th400, dana60, ps, ac

09-20-2016, 09:10 AM	#6
JustToxic Registered User Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Elkhart, Indiana Posts: 292	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite The swap isn't too bad, you'd have to modify a few things hear and there. Overall tho, I'd recommend keeping power steering. There are a bunch of remote res. applications out there, not all racing set ups. If I have time today I'll see about trying to find one that might work. The other option you have is fab up a custom power steering mount. __________________ 1967 Chevy C20 to K20 Conversion "Simply Toxic" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=749409 1971 Chevy C20 Custom Camper LS Swap http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=763775

09-20-2016, 09:34 AM	#7
Gmc.guy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Alberta Posts: 464	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Smallblock should have a short water pump and setup. Are you putting long water pump stuff on it? That might be your problem with clearance, I have 2 trucks manual and 2 power steering, I agree it fits the character of the truck, the big diameter original steering wheel makes the effort a bit less. I enjoy the leak free reliability on them. It would be simple enough to throw manual box on until you move and you can mess with it after and get everything working __________________ -Cody

09-20-2016, 03:20 PM	#8
1969c10joe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: lompoc ca Posts: 228	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite good point about the large diameter steering wheel I also have non power brakes I like the uncluttered look under the hood. price a manual steering gearbox not cheap

09-20-2016, 05:47 PM	#9
Vdubluv82 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 6	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite It is a short pump and sorry for not clearing tge exact problem. Stock p. S. Pump is mounted low on ds and with the altinator bracket, the resevoir is to long on the pump. It hits the alt and only gives about a half inch of play. I wont be able to get good belt tension or check fluid. Im not oposed to running a remote set up and saw they came on some vehicals, but i wouldnt know which pump or bracket to use.

09-20-2016, 06:29 PM	#10
Gmc.guy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Alberta Posts: 464	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite On my 69 I know the alt. Belt comes close to the p.s. Cap but there's lots of room to fill and tension It's tough to get a pic in there Attached Images __________________ -Cody

09-20-2016, 06:30 PM	#11
Gmc.guy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Alberta Posts: 464	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Dang. Upside down __________________ -Cody

09-20-2016, 07:25 PM	#12
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite I never had problems with mine. It was close and it was a pain to get the cap off but it did come off. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

10-06-2016, 10:32 AM	#13
Vdubluv82 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 6	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Sorry it's taken so long to reply, here is the setup Attached Images

10-08-2016, 05:13 PM	#14
Vdubluv82 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 6	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Bump

10-08-2016, 07:36 PM	#15
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,103	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite Here ya go Cody Attached Images __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross



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10-08-2016, 07:40 PM	#16
Vdubluv82 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Jacksonville NC Posts: 6	Re: Power steering vs. manual, need some insite That was my stock setup, anyone running after market stuff or different pumps?

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