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10-22-2016, 01:11 PM | #1 |
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FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Background:
I've had my 72 C20 for about 15 years and I haven't been driving it much (sadly) in the last several years. However, recently my daily driver (newer BMW Sedan) was destroyed in a flash flood in a parking lot. I hadn't planned to buy another vehicle for a couple years at least so decided I'd make the 72 my daily driver. The carb was a mess anyway (from sitting) so I decided if I was going to make it reliable I might as well do EFI. This forum has been helpful so I wanted to share my experience. What I had: 72 C20 with Holley Street Avenger on 402 w/ TH400 Trans and later model Chevy HEI and an Air Gap intake. Parts I had to purchase:
Fuel Return: I hadn't figured out how I would do the return before I got the unit and this was my biggest concern starting the project. To my surprise the 72 system has a 1/4" return line. I called FiTech to see if it would be ok to tap into that and they said sure. I just Tee'd into it where the rubber line goes between the factory fuel pump and the hard line. Command Center Installation: I decided to install the Command Center behind the passenger side headlight between the battery and the fender. Note, this may not be ideal as the Command Center can collect water from rain or washing the car when placed here; plus it's a tight fit for connecting wires and hoses during the install. However, it's on the same side of the vehicle as the fuel lines so routing is simple and easy. I routed the vent/return line and input up from the passenger frame rail under the battery box to the Command Center. I used existing bolts and holes to fabricate a mount for the Command Center in this location (see pictures). Fuel Supply: I routed the fuel supply from the mechanical pump up through a filter into the Command Center, then from the Command Center under the battery and up over the back of the A/C pump into the front of the throttle body. These images are with the battery box removed. Wiring: I soldered the tach wire into the existing wire coming from the tach. I ran the ignition wire into the cab and connected to a wire that was hot when the ignition is on. I routed the pump and power wires through the fender to the Command Center location which is right next to the batter (for constant power). Throttle Connection: I just moved my 1/4" ball to the FItech linkage and it started and ran but didn't have full throttle. I have ordered Jegs Part 55-15269 1/2" to 1/4" ball carburetor linkage bushing which should give me a longer throw to increase leverage. The throttle is very stiff in the current location. Control Unit: I ran this through a grommet into the cab and suctioned it below the dash; works great. Everything Else: Everything else (coolant sensor, vacuum lines etc.) was all so self explanatory I didn't include details here. I did not use the fan control or ignition control. Issues: I only had two issues, neither related to FiTech. First, the ignition wire I tried to use was the one that had been run to the choke. It turns out it wasn't hot when cranking (the handheld unit showed 0 rpms). A quick call to FiTech figured this out. I also had issues with my factory fuel pump failing during this process but once I replaced that all worked as planned. I did have to order a different base for my air filter as mine had too much drop but that wasn't a real issue. Performance: Once I had primed the system, entered 402 for the engine size (it reset to 401 for some reason), set the cam to 1 (stock) I cranked it for a bit and it started right up. I've been driving it ever since with no serious issues. The only thing I need to tweak is that when I take my foot off the gas and brake around a tight corner, when I get back on the gas there is a small stumble. That's exasperated by the stiff throttle cable. If it's still a problem when I replace the throttle linkage I'll dig into the tuning but it's so minor it's not a concern. I had a business trip this week and drove the truck to the airport. When I got in to go home at 11:15PM it was 38 degrees; the truck started with just a single turn of the key. That was rewarding! All in all I highly recommend this product! I have no fuel smell in the cab or anything like that to deal with. I think my stock tank (non-ECC btw) vents out around the cap, it works well, and makes your engine start and run like something much newer. Last edited by sophistical; 10-22-2016 at 01:13 PM. Reason: grammer |
10-22-2016, 01:38 PM | #2 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Excellent to hear that the Fitech works as they state in their videos... I am trying to decide whether to install one on my '72 K10 as the carb on it now is causing problems with the colder weather. My truck sat for a few years before I bought it in the summer. I also have a 6.0 LS from a 2002 in my shop and have been toying with the idea of swapping it into the K10. But the K10 has low miles on the rebuilt 350, and the turbo 350 shifts excellent. Where did you buy your Fitech?
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10-22-2016, 01:46 PM | #3 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
I bought the FiTech from Summit. They were out of stock for a long time (same for the Command Center) so I started calling small speed shops till I found a Command Center in stock.
I just saw this morning on Jegs home page that have a $100 rebate on the Fitech unit. Oh well, looks like Summit has it as well and they both have them in stock. When I was watching in August and September they were out of stock every other week it seemed. |
10-22-2016, 01:57 PM | #4 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Its the best money you will ever spend on your truck.....We installed it on my
buddies 1970 K10 and he averaged 16.4 mpg on a trip to Moab. I dont Particularly like that its made in China but it does work good. Best advice I can give is BUY THE COMMAND CENTER !!! Heres a pic of my buddies truck |
10-23-2016, 07:36 AM | #5 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Thanks for posting this.
I'd be interested to hear about any gains in fuel economy and general driveability.
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10-23-2016, 10:08 AM | #6 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
I would like to know if there is a way to tie into it to have the tps so that a 4l60E could be used
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10-23-2016, 10:29 AM | #7 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
I would guess a stand alone harness / controller for a 4l60 since u need
A vss signal and tps. I would run a 700r which only needs a tv cable to work |
10-23-2016, 11:05 AM | #8 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Congrats on your install!
I just finished my FITech install last weekend. Aside from some tuning needs still, it is one of the best upgrades i've done to my truck. I did not use the FCC due to much negative feed back. Instead I installed an inline pump with LS filter/regulator system. This allowed me to use the stock fuel tank for the time being as I'm trying to push off an under bed efi tank conversion til next year. I don't have hard fuel consumption numbers but I do see the fuel needle moving slower. The drive-ability is where this system shines. Again, other than some off-idle tuning issues I'm addressing, this system continues to get better and better as it learns with the miles.
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10-23-2016, 11:28 AM | #9 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Really good info here, as I'm sure missing FI now that I'm driving a carbed engine. The FITech system looks like the easiest way to get FI on our old trucks. There's also going to a GM TBI, a Tuned Port Injection system, and probably lots others. I'd sure like to know the pros and cons of these systems. Can anybody point me to a good thread on this please.
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10-23-2016, 11:41 AM | #10 | |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
Quote:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fif-30002 These boys deserve a lot of credit. http://www.chevelles.com/forums/89-e...tings-etc.html
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10-23-2016, 09:13 PM | #11 |
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Re: FiTech Install on 72 C20 w/ 402 and TH400
I would run a 700 over the 4l60 but I don't have any 700's left and have maybe 10 or so of the 4l60's so thus my wonderment. I did forget about the speedometer thing too so it probably isn't worth the try.
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