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12-04-2016, 06:13 PM | #1 |
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Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
I ordered a set of the 4" Suburban drop springs. When they came, I thought they forgot to ship one in the box as the box was VERY light. They were smaller than any drop springs I had ever ordered. I immediately emailed Brothers speaking with the sales manager and he said what I had was correct. I expressed my concerns about the size of them and the light duty appearance of the product saying there is NO WAY this will support the rear of a Suburban but maybe a Camaro. Before installing, I once again made contact with Brothers VIA the phone this time and re expressed my concerns, I was once again told they were correct and this guy actually went and looked at them in the warehouse. Well, this weekend we put them in. As I lowered the Suburban on the ground, it kept going down...4 inches 5 inches, 6 inches, finally stopping at 6.5 inches....oh yea...resting on the bump stops. I dare say if i removed the bump stops it would probably be sitting on the axle. I compared it to one of my trucks with 5" rear drop springs and it has 2" to go before hitting the stops. 4 inches of drop should leave me with 2+ inches of travel and not sitting on the frame/axle/bump stops. I emailed Brothers today so Im interested to see what they say and how this can be resolved.
Has anyone else tried these springs?
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12-04-2016, 11:19 PM | #2 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
I'm guessing you are working on a '67-'72 Sub which is much heavier than a '60-'66 Sub. Those springs will physically fit in the '60-'72 suspension but will NOT result in the same ride height.
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12-05-2016, 12:56 PM | #3 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
My guess is the Brother's ones are actually the CPP ones. I used the CPP ones but I removed my factory bump stops and put 3/4" ones directly on the frame over the axle. I have about 2" of travel so I know they are sitting much lower than a 4" drop would have been. I agree, for "heavy duty" springs, they seem to be fairly lightweight.
Since the rear sits lower than I wanted and the front ended up about an inch higher than I wanted, I am really thinking of just moving over to airbags and be done with it.
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12-05-2016, 09:37 PM | #4 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
Hotchkis has 1/4" thick shims that come with some of there spring kits. Gives you ability to ad a 1/2 to the spring height. That gives you a little more at the wheel. Just an idea to get your burb up a little in the back. The front may settle a bit once you drive it some. Mine settled close to an inch in the first few thousand miles.
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12-06-2016, 12:59 AM | #5 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
Wow !!! If that's the right spring maybe you will need 2 inch drop springs with a 1 or 1.5 inch blocks.
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12-07-2016, 06:39 AM | #6 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
Brothers is researching the springs NOW thinking the ones sent to them by their vendor are boxed incorrectly. Isnt that what I said weeks ago?
They are working to resolve the problem and will be sending a replacement pair and shipping slip for the others.
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12-07-2016, 08:31 AM | #7 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
Are you installing the rear shock relocators also?
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12-07-2016, 11:28 AM | #8 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
FYI, here is what the CPP ones look like (4" HD versions),
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12-07-2016, 06:19 PM | #9 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
See if you can get the number off of them.
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12-09-2016, 02:38 PM | #10 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
Here you go folks. Pictured below are a set of STOCK pick-up rear springs beside the Brothers heavy duty 4" rear SUBURBAN drop springs.
As mentioned above, I didn't need to install them to see there was a problem but we now have the proof for the vendor.
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12-22-2016, 12:26 PM | #11 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
Did you ever get it worked out? I'm collecting parts for my Burb and springs are on the list.
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12-23-2016, 05:51 AM | #12 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
I have NOT heard back from Brothers on their research or findings. They offered to send me another set, but for grins I put a used set of stock 1/2 ton truck springs in it and got the desired look I was going for. They did pay for the return shipping. Because of their obvious lack of knowledge of their products, I would probably use another vendor. I did notice I think it was GMC Pauls had some listed. I know for a fact he would have a better understanding of the products he is pushing.
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12-23-2016, 09:56 AM | #13 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
They all must be selling the same springs. Looks like the only HD spring being done for the burbs and panels is a 4". I can see where a set of the pickup springs could get mis-boxed or mis-labeled. For a 65 Suburban they are about 500 pounds total weight heaver than a pickup and 600 pounds heavier on the rear. I know what drop a 800 pound roadking gives me with the 3" CPP springs and its about 2 1/4". So now your install of the stock springs makes me wonder about what a 2" truck spring would look like with the weight of the burb. My pickup rides good with weight in it so now time to ponder the possibilities.
Jimmy
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12-28-2016, 01:04 PM | #14 |
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
I would use ECE for my springs. They know this trucks inside and out.
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Re: Brothers Trucks 60-72 SUBURBAN-Panel 4" drop springs REVIEW.
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They recommend 1" less spring than drop desired for Suburban. You want 4" drop...get 3" truck springs 5" drop......4" truck springs
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