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dme922 · 01-29-2017, 11:59 AM

I put all new glass and felt in my doors and my windows are lacking about 1/8 to a 1/4 of an inch from sealing at the top. I already checked to see if the window frame was hitting the fuzzies/anti rattle seals and it is clearing just fine. Any suggestions?

**chewychevy67** · 01-29-2017, 09:05 PM

I got my new glass to and it is quite a bit thinner than the original glass. I have not installed any of it yet. I'm going to follow this thread

snipescastle2 · 01-29-2017, 09:09 PM

There is a metal tab right where the vent windows attach ( holds both halves of the door together) these tabs often break or rust through allowing the door to separate in this area that's why only '72 trucks have the dimple/screw to hold these areas together. Here's a picture. I tried to find a picture showing the tab but haven't found one just yet. This is probably the issue your having.
Ben

dme922 · 02-07-2017, 11:16 AM

My doors are new but i appreaciate the help. Any other ideas??

**Hart_Rod** · 02-07-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snipescastle2

There is a metal tab right where the vent windows attach ( holds both halves of the door together) these tabs often break or rust through allowing the door to separate in this area that's why only '72 trucks have the dimple/screw to hold these areas together. Here's a picture. I tried to find a picture showing the tab but haven't found one just yet. This is probably the issue your having.
Ben

Wonder how hard it would be to add the screw on non-72 doors?

**LockDoc** · 02-07-2017, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dme922

I put all new glass and felt in my doors and my windows are lacking about 1/8 to a 1/4 of an inch from sealing at the top. I already checked to see if the window frame was hitting the fuzzies/anti rattle seals and it is clearing just fine. Any suggestions?

Are your window regulators new too? There is no reason that the windows shouldn't roll up higher than the top of the door if nothing is hitting or binding. Are you sure that the replacement glass isn't shorter than the originals?

LockDoc

**LockDoc** · 02-07-2017, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Wonder how hard it would be to add the screw on non-72 doors?

Rob, You would have to weld a tab to the inside of the outside door skin for the screw to tap into.

LockDoc

**Hart_Rod** · 02-07-2017, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dme922

I put all new glass and felt in my doors and my windows are lacking about 1/8 to a 1/4 of an inch from sealing at the top. I already checked to see if the window frame was hitting the fuzzies/anti rattle seals and it is clearing just fine. Any suggestions?

When I put new door channels in my last build, the windows were pretty hard to roll up that last quarter of an inch. I ended up putting a little lithium grease on in the channels.

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

Rob, You would have to weld a tab to the inside of the outside door skin for the screw to tap into.

LockDoc

Thanks Doc. Would you happen to have a picture of the tab?

dme922 · 02-07-2017, 04:20 PM

I used the original regulators. I measured both the old and new glass and they measure the same. Is it common for the glass channel to come above the anti rattle felt?

**Hart_Rod** · 02-07-2017, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dme922

I used the original regulators. I measured both the old and new glass and they measure the same. Is it common for the glass channel to come above the anti rattle felt?

Not above, but should be close. Can you post pictures?

dme922 · 02-07-2017, 04:26 PM

I will tomorrow. If the felt that goes in the door channel was a bit thicker it would be fine. I used repops which a lot of people seem to like.

dme922 · 02-07-2017, 05:27 PM

Just another note to add my original doors had some metal clips in the door channel under the felt. What were they for

**LockDoc** · 02-07-2017, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Thanks Doc. Would you happen to have a picture of the tab?

I know I took one and posted it at one time but I can't find it on here and I can't find it on my computer. I will take another tomorrow if I still have a stripped '72 door out there.

LockDoc

dme922 · 02-07-2017, 10:57 PM

I have the metal clips but i did not know what purpose they served

**LockDoc** · 02-07-2017, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dme922

I have the metal clips but i did not know what purpose they served

I wonder if they might have been for the door ventshades that are at the top of the window openings on some trucks. I know there are clips that hold some of them on but I don't know what they look like....

LockDoc

**Tom Vogel** · 02-08-2017, 09:05 AM

FWIW... I had replacement glass for my doors that was reproduction and when I layed it over my original glass, the repop glass was about 1/8 to 1/4" smaller at the top rear quarter. I ended up searching out OEM new old stock to solve that problem.

dme922 · 02-08-2017, 01:37 PM

Thanks. I am taking the glass out today. How hard was it to find new oem glass?

*randy500* · 02-08-2017, 04:05 PM

Used glass should be easy to find, post want to buy in the parts section. The glass may not be going all the way up due to the run channel on the top back and inside the door. There is a small angle transition on the back inside door run channel and sometimes its not all the way pushed into the channel, this is just below the window opening inside the door at the rear.

dme922 · 02-08-2017, 05:28 PM

Here is a pic with the original glass on top of the new. It is a bit different in that corner.

dme922 · 02-09-2017, 10:35 AM

Could i get some pics of how your glass is set in the sash channell? I would like to compare to the placement of mine.

**Tom Vogel** · 02-09-2017, 10:40 AM

[QUOTHere is a pic with the original glass on top of the new. It is a bit different in that corner.[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what I am talking about. Call Wes at Classic Heart beat.He can help you. http://www.classicheartbeat.com/years.htm

dme922 · 02-09-2017, 10:42 AM

Thanks. Where did you buy the one you had trouble with?

**Hart_Rod** · 02-13-2017, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

I know I took one and posted it at one time but I can't find it on here and I can't find it on my computer. I will take another tomorrow if I still have a stripped '72 door out there.

LockDoc

LockDoc - I took a picture of my doors (they are aftermarket doors). Is this the tab you were talking about?

**Tom Vogel** · 02-13-2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dme922

Thanks. Where did you buy the one you had trouble with?

I wish I could remember, but I can't. I tossed them and was able to get the OEM from Wes.

dme922 · 02-13-2017, 04:23 PM

Was the glass you got from Wes made by oer?

01-29-2017, 11:59 AM	#1
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Door glass not sealing I put all new glass and felt in my doors and my windows are lacking about 1/8 to a 1/4 of an inch from sealing at the top. I already checked to see if the window frame was hitting the fuzzies/anti rattle seals and it is clearing just fine. Any suggestions?

01-29-2017, 09:05 PM	#2
chewychevy67 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here Posts: 5,557	Re: Door glass not sealing I got my new glass to and it is quite a bit thinner than the original glass. I have not installed any of it yet. I'm going to follow this thread

01-29-2017, 09:09 PM	#3
snipescastle2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: WARRENSBURG,MISSOURI,64093 Posts: 1,518	Re: Door glass not sealing There is a metal tab right where the vent windows attach ( holds both halves of the door together) these tabs often break or rust through allowing the door to separate in this area that's why only '72 trucks have the dimple/screw to hold these areas together. Here's a picture. I tried to find a picture showing the tab but haven't found one just yet. This is probably the issue your having. Ben Attached Images __________________ "Persistence is the twin sister of Excellence.one is a matter of quality,the other, a matter of time" “Serious Black” my 1971 Short Bed Fleetside Sold to an outstanding man in Lees Summit,Mo. “Gone, but by no means,Forgotten”

02-07-2017, 11:16 AM	#4
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing My doors are new but i appreaciate the help. Any other ideas??

02-07-2017, 04:20 PM	#9
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing I used the original regulators. I measured both the old and new glass and they measure the same. Is it common for the glass channel to come above the anti rattle felt?

02-07-2017, 04:26 PM	#11
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing I will tomorrow. If the felt that goes in the door channel was a bit thicker it would be fine. I used repops which a lot of people seem to like.

02-07-2017, 05:27 PM	#12
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing Just another note to add my original doors had some metal clips in the door channel under the felt. What were they for

02-07-2017, 10:57 PM	#14
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing I have the metal clips but i did not know what purpose they served

02-08-2017, 09:05 AM	#16
Tom Vogel 2WD Jimmy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davis County, Utah Posts: 2,565	Re: Door glass not sealing FWIW... I had replacement glass for my doors that was reproduction and when I layed it over my original glass, the repop glass was about 1/8 to 1/4" smaller at the top rear quarter. I ended up searching out OEM new old stock to solve that problem.

02-08-2017, 01:37 PM	#17
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing Thanks. I am taking the glass out today. How hard was it to find new oem glass?

02-08-2017, 04:05 PM	#18
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: Door glass not sealing Used glass should be easy to find, post want to buy in the parts section. The glass may not be going all the way up due to the run channel on the top back and inside the door. There is a small angle transition on the back inside door run channel and sometimes its not all the way pushed into the channel, this is just below the window opening inside the door at the rear.

02-08-2017, 05:28 PM	#19
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing Here is a pic with the original glass on top of the new. It is a bit different in that corner. Attached Images

02-09-2017, 10:35 AM	#20
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing Could i get some pics of how your glass is set in the sash channell? I would like to compare to the placement of mine.

02-09-2017, 10:40 AM	#21
Tom Vogel 2WD Jimmy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davis County, Utah Posts: 2,565	Re: Door glass not sealing [QUOTHere is a pic with the original glass on top of the new. It is a bit different in that corner.[/QUOTE] That is exactly what I am talking about. Call Wes at Classic Heart beat.He can help you. http://www.classicheartbeat.com/years.htm

02-09-2017, 10:42 AM	#22
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing Thanks. Where did you buy the one you had trouble with?



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02-13-2017, 04:23 PM	#25
dme922 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gallipolis, Ohio Posts: 296	Re: Door glass not sealing Was the glass you got from Wes made by oer?

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