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02-26-2017, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: lacenter, washington
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no more header gaskets
updating to ball and socket. headmen does not sell 3" to 2.5" collector to pipe. they only sell 2.5" to 2.5 ". they sell each side separately . seems the part store misled me on that for some reason. Then had to purchase a 3" to 2.5" deducer. Extra weld . modified the crossover . no more running over the top of the crossover.
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1978 c10 stepside 4/6 drop 350 vortec crate 2011 camaro ss2 6.2 automatic 2017 tahoe lt 2002 silverado lt 1500 5.3 automatic. 1981 el camino |
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02-26-2017, 11:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: North Texas
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Re: no more header gaskets
I've always wanted to try the ball & socket setup. However, I have to say that I haven't had a collector flange leak (in 3 different vehicles) since switching to soft aluminum gaskets many years ago. And I have even re-used them, sometimes twice.
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Mike 1969 C10 LWB -- owned for 35 years. 350/TH350, 3.08 posi, 1st Gen Vintage Air, recent AAW wiring harness, 5-lug conversion, 1985 spindles and brakes. 1982 C10 SWB -- sold 1981 C10 Silverado LWB -- sold, but wish I still had it! 1969 C10 (not the current one) that I bought in the early 1980s. Paid $1200; sold for $1500 a few years later. Just a hint at the appreciation that was coming. Retired as a factory automation products salesman. Worked part-time over the years for an engine builder and a classic car repair shop. Member here for 24 years! This is the very first car/truck Internet forum I joined. I still used a dial-up modem back then! |
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02-26-2017, 12:08 PM
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Re: no more header gaskets
I have ball and socket style on my el camino and my son's k5 blazer . I really like . Much easier to modify old ones then buy new . Seems 40 dollars a side plus 19 dollars a piece for reducer is a bit steep . Less work then buying new . Last set of Hedman I put on had to first remove the crappy paint then repaint with high temperature . Next the bolt holes were off center . Had to burr out holes to fit . I inquired to hedmen about why they paint there products with low temperature paint and about the bolt hole issue. .
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02-26-2017, 03:52 PM
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Re: no more header gaskets
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Funny, but even their expensive "coated" Elite headers aren't much better than paint, and nowhere near as good as decreasing, scuffing, priming, and painting them yourself. For my new bare steel headers, I used 2 coats of VHT 1200° paint over 2 coats of KBS Coatings XTC silicon zinc primer. The headers still look good after 4-5 months, even with the truck parked outside in the weather.
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Mike 1969 C10 LWB -- owned for 35 years. 350/TH350, 3.08 posi, 1st Gen Vintage Air, recent AAW wiring harness, 5-lug conversion, 1985 spindles and brakes. 1982 C10 SWB -- sold 1981 C10 Silverado LWB -- sold, but wish I still had it! 1969 C10 (not the current one) that I bought in the early 1980s. Paid $1200; sold for $1500 a few years later. Just a hint at the appreciation that was coming. Retired as a factory automation products salesman. Worked part-time over the years for an engine builder and a classic car repair shop. Member here for 24 years! This is the very first car/truck Internet forum I joined. I still used a dial-up modem back then! |
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02-26-2017, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: lacenter, washington
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Re: no more header gaskets
i converted my truck to a v-8 in about 1998. i used my dads truck as a donor. my headers were on the donor. i painted them in 98. thinks paint makes them last . truck is a sunny day truck and been sitting in the garage since 92
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02-26-2017, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Willow, Alaska
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Re: no more header gaskets
Just FYI, something else you can use that is very similar to the ball and socket type connection is a product called "Header Buddies". These fit right into the collector and secure with the 3 bolt flange that comes stock with most headers. It's a great option for those who don't have a welder or are not wanting to cut their headers. Either way is great and a huge step up from gaskets IMO.
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