The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-08-2017, 10:58 PM   #1
jwaldo880
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bozeman MT
Posts: 6
Frankenstien Help

I'm working on a 68 GMC and have hit a road block with the frame and rear end.
The truck has front disc brakes / rear drums with a 5x5 wheel pattern, leaf springs in the rear. No VIN stamped on the driver side frame rail next to the motor and I am trying to avoid pulling the cab. Any other thoughts on how to identify what I might have frame wise. My next step is to get it up on a lift this weekend and take some pics and measurements.

The rear end has me puzzled even more. 10 bolt, 8.5 rear end but the axle stamp is BN3 G212 2 which according to the GM website would be a 3.08 in a 12 bolt. This obviously doesn't match unless I am reading the code wrong on the tube. Several other numbers on the pumpkin that look like casting numbers.

My brain is fried. Thanks in advance
jwaldo880 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2017, 11:21 PM   #2
Blue GMC
Registered User
 
Blue GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 384
Re: Frankenstien Help

Honestly your frame may not be stamped as GMC i know did not stamp the 67 frames. If it was an early production 68 may not be stamped as well. Not hard to change over to a disc break set up off a donor truck which someone may have done in the past for safety.
Blue GMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2017, 11:23 PM   #3
jwaldo880
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bozeman MT
Posts: 6
Re: Frankenstien Help

What about the leaf springs, thought they didn't change over to leafs until 70?
jwaldo880 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2017, 12:42 AM   #4
57taskforce
All about them K’s
 
57taskforce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Farmington, New Mexico
Posts: 6,301
Re: Frankenstien Help

Gmc's seem to be more common with leaves in my expierence but coils or leaves could be had from the factory in any of the 67-72 Chevy/gmc trucks. They were both available all the way thru the production run.
__________________
Tyler
'57 3100 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=813888
'72 K20 Cheyenne http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=662879
‘69 K10 SWB http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=805206
'98 Silverado LT K2500HD ECLB Vortec 454/4l80E: 6" lift 315/75/16's
‘87 IROC-Z all original 50K mile survivor TPI 305 IROC Blue
‘10 Camaro 2SS/RS Aqua Blue Metallic #93 -version 2.0
57taskforce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2017, 10:10 AM   #5
jwaldo880
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bozeman MT
Posts: 6
Re: Frankenstien Help

Thanks guys. Any thoughts on the rear end. I had suspected that a donor rear end might have been used but the numbers BN3 G212 telling me it is a 308 12 bolt really confuses me as it is a 10 bolt 8.5
jwaldo880 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2017, 11:47 AM   #6
Daves70
Registered User
 
Daves70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Mt Brydges Ontario
Posts: 181
Re: Frankenstien Help

The rear is likely a mid 80's rear end out of a square body truck. The front end parts for the disk brakes could very well be off the same truck. Your frame may be original to the truck.
Daves70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2017, 10:39 PM   #7
Mike C
Registered User
 
Mike C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Posts: 7,715
Re: Frankenstien Help

How wide are the leaf springs? 67-72 2x4 trucks should be 2 1/4" wide. If they are 2 1/2" that opens up a whole 'nother can of worms.
__________________
44 Willys MB
52 M38A1
64 Corvette Coupe
68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700
69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110
69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop
72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's
02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax
Mike C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 06:31 PM   #8
Steeveedee
Who Changed This?
 
Steeveedee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 10,294
Re: Frankenstien Help

There are some real gurus in here that can tell you what you have in the way of a frame with a few pictures. What does the SPID look like? If you want to post a pic of the SPID, maybe leave the serial number off the top edge, for personal security reasons.
__________________
~Steven

'70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper

Simi Valley, CA
Steeveedee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 10:11 PM   #9
jwaldo880
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bozeman MT
Posts: 6
Re: Frankenstien Help

Mike C the leafs at 2 1/4. Thats a huge help as I was questioning if I might have a car frame.
jwaldo880 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 10:14 PM   #10
jwaldo880
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bozeman MT
Posts: 6
Re: Frankenstien Help

Steevedee, unfortunately I am not a guru, just a shade tree tackling a project with my son....so what does SPID stand for?
jwaldo880 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 09:16 AM   #11
clay68c10
Senior Member
 
clay68c10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 2,932
Re: Frankenstien Help

The SPID is the option sheet stuck to the inside of the glovebox door. It lists all the options your truck came with. The SPID isn't always there, or may not be readable.
Mine is long gone after a repaint in 91.

I'd bet someone swapped in square body parts, that's a common and easy way to get rid of the front drum brakes. That swap also changes over to 5 lug from 6. Not a big deal, I'd say it's a bonus.
__________________
ClusterTruck: 68 C10 Bought in 89, wrecked in 03. Slow low $ rebuild started '17. 6.0 & TKO
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=788602
93 K1500 Short Step, 350, NV4500, EBL flash ECU. Vortec heads & roller cam someday...
05 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. 3” lift & 6-speed
02 E320 the insurance total “free car”
13 Tahoe LTZ
clay68c10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 09:37 AM   #12
jwaldo880
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bozeman MT
Posts: 6
Re: Frankenstien Help

Thanks Clay, the plate in the glove box is gone. I have found the vin for the cab and numbers off the motor and transmission, the frame and the rear-end are the two that have stumped me. My main concern is ordering parts as I don't know exactly what to get, so I'm guessing a little trial and error at the local auto parts store is in my future. I do like the 5 lug as it seems like I have better wheel options and the disc brakes on the front are a bonus, would be nice if I could convert the rear as well.
jwaldo880 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com